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- The Jays - 06-01-2004 Anyone care? - The Jays - 06-01-2004 Well, anyway, a few years back, I read "The Geography of Nowhere", a book by James Howard Kunstler. Basically, it outlined how the culture within the US is devoted to shitty housing and devotion to the automobile, and how this will lead to an impending crisis within America. I usually find this book as part of the syllabi of my urban design and sustainable technologies classes at school. Anywho, I have been reading his website, we has an extensive backlog of his journal writings about contemporary America, usually linking the latest headlines with his ideas on our addiction to oil. Quote:June 3, 2003 Basically, he thinks that each of us seriously need to consider that our dependence on oil, in general, will lead to an economic devastation, though many others think that we are very well diverisfied, and will be ready once all the oil is gone. This is what I'm reading at the moment, so I guess my thoughts are a bit slanted. - The Jays - 06-01-2004 and , no one cares... - Mad - 06-01-2004 Biodiesel Boom Well-Timed - Keyser Soze - 06-01-2004 the earth will outlive us all. - Mad - 06-01-2004 Still no reason to shit where you eat. - Keyser Soze - 06-01-2004 my point being, the damage we do to the enviorment will kill us before it destroys the earth. preserving the enviorment is about self preservation, which is why dolts like the republican party should pay closer attention but are too busy reversing all the acts that reduced profit margins in order to clean up pollution. - Galt - 06-01-2004 It's not that I don't care, I'm just not worried. - Keyser Soze - 06-01-2004 it wont kill us in our lifetimes, but the damage we are doing will certainly affect the lives of generations to come. - Galt - 06-01-2004 what damage? Other scientists have published that the hole in the ozone is bullshit. That global warming is bullshit. That there is more forrest in the country than at the turn of the 19th century (containing fires), that landfill space is more than ample for eons. Things I think are a bit worrisome (no idea if they're even valid): farming areas that wipe out species because they are not economically viable (like how certain trees don't make good wood products -- rippling through to the other species that rely on those) That the reason that oil prices are so high isn't because of OPEC, but because it's much more difficult to drill for existing oil, and there are no significant untapped oil reserves. The fact that Cancer has skyrocketed in this country over the last few generations - Keyser Soze - 06-01-2004 i agree the ozone and global warming was overblown. but like you said, cancer is all too common these days. - Mad - 06-01-2004 Cancer and AIDS is big business. Just follow the money. - Keyser Soze - 06-01-2004 gun nut AND conspiracy theorist! you really are the militia poster child. - Mad - 06-01-2004 I am not in the militia, douche nozzle. Actually, I'm more of a researcher then anything else. - Galt - 06-01-2004 If Cancer and AIDS is "big business" is a conspiracy keeping them alive so drug companies can make money, I'd blame the FDA more than anything else. Drugs are 5-10 years behind where they should be because the approval process is so long and hamstrings drug companies. That said, the libertarians are wildly against the FDA, I think that you simply can't allow drug companies to flood the market with drugs whose safety is unproven. It would be like that Fight Club thing where they would just compare the revenue they could make from desperately sick people with the costs of settling lawsuits from x% of people who will die from taking it. - Mad - 06-01-2004 I don't know if anyone will remember this, but about 10 years ago the FDA was pushing for Vitamins and Supplements to be sold by prescription only. The AMA was all for this, the FDA raided a Doctors office in Oregon with a group of machine gun wielding Jack Booted Thugs to seize his records. A little over kill if you ask me over a Doctor giving vitamin injections to his patients. - Black Lazerus - 06-01-2004 calm down Remy - Keyser Soze - 06-01-2004 sir, slowly step away from the internet - Mad - 06-01-2004 FDA TERRORISTS RAID FLORIDA ALTERNATIVE CLINICS - Mad - 06-01-2004 1990; Mt. Angel, Oregon: Nine FDA agents, 11 US marshalls, and 8 heavily armed Oregon state police raid Highland Laboratories, kicking in both front and back doors. Over an 11 hour period, virtually everything except tables and chairs is carted off to waiting trucks, including many items not listed on the search warrant, at a total value of $37,000. Nobody was informed about the grounds for the raid, the "supporting affidavit" being suppressed by the court. The seized property was taken to an undisclosed location. Mr. Kenneth Scott, owner, and other Highland employees were threatened with violence if they attempted to enter the company premises, and the daughter of the owner was held "in house arrest" for 12 hours at a location several miles away. Highland subsequently reopened, and hired a separate outside mailing service to satisfy FDA requirements. In response, the FDA raided the mailing service, which was a small business run out of the home of a woman in another town. Finding nothing there except mailing equipment and business records, FDA agents threatened to confiscate the woman's checkbooks and cash, failing to do so only after being begged not to. When she asked them "Why are you doing this?", the agent replied "Somebody's got to do it!!" Because of the raids, the owner of the mailing firm subsequently closed her business, and refuses to file charges out of fear of government reprisals(!!). No charges were ever filed by the FDA against anyone, nor has any of the seized property been returned. The FDA still has not given anyone reasons for their outrageous tactics, which were designed simply to put the firm out of business.(14) More evidence. |