02-14-2003, 12:55 AM
I agree about Eddie Van Halen, I disagree about Elvis Costello.
Billy Joel ever since 'River Of Dreams' has been sad and pathetic, I will agree.
As far as a pinacle to rap, I don't think there has been one truthfully.
There have been artists who have saved or furthered hip hop.
Tupac was a hip hop artist as were Run DMC. Rap and Hip Hop are totally different genres, Tupac considered himself a hip hop artists and todays trash like Nelly, Ja Rule and others he would consider Rappers, he called it R.A.P - Really Awful Pop.
Yes Run DMC were the most influential, they took it to the mainstream.
Then Came Public Enemy they took it and made it meaningful. Like early Rock N' Roll they took it from nice sounding music with catchy lyrics, to actually meaningful music like when the beatles came along and then everyone else followed suit. Music with a concept and not just elvis singing about a hound dog.
Then NWA totally changed the game, Dre took it further with the Chronic.
Tupac took it to its highest forms.
After 97 when both big and pac were dead there was a lull till eminem came along.
Eminem is all of them mixed together, he has pacs anger, he has the message. Most important he is taking Rap even further, like DMC before him, he is the raps Elvis he is taking it to heights never seen before, unlike elvis he has talent though beyond just a voice and a pretty face. He is breaking down walls and barriers, he is bring sick amounts of press and fans to the hip hop industry and is benefiting everyone.
Also to add to Arpi's list
Jim Morrison was NOT a poet.
Billy Joel ever since 'River Of Dreams' has been sad and pathetic, I will agree.
As far as a pinacle to rap, I don't think there has been one truthfully.
There have been artists who have saved or furthered hip hop.
Tupac was a hip hop artist as were Run DMC. Rap and Hip Hop are totally different genres, Tupac considered himself a hip hop artists and todays trash like Nelly, Ja Rule and others he would consider Rappers, he called it R.A.P - Really Awful Pop.
Yes Run DMC were the most influential, they took it to the mainstream.
Then Came Public Enemy they took it and made it meaningful. Like early Rock N' Roll they took it from nice sounding music with catchy lyrics, to actually meaningful music like when the beatles came along and then everyone else followed suit. Music with a concept and not just elvis singing about a hound dog.
Then NWA totally changed the game, Dre took it further with the Chronic.
Tupac took it to its highest forms.
After 97 when both big and pac were dead there was a lull till eminem came along.
Eminem is all of them mixed together, he has pacs anger, he has the message. Most important he is taking Rap even further, like DMC before him, he is the raps Elvis he is taking it to heights never seen before, unlike elvis he has talent though beyond just a voice and a pretty face. He is breaking down walls and barriers, he is bring sick amounts of press and fans to the hip hop industry and is benefiting everyone.
Also to add to Arpi's list
Jim Morrison was NOT a poet.
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