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TheGooch
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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 11:54 AM      
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Ok, Kid A is banned again, no surprise there, he's been asking for it for a long time. However, what I do have issue is by who, and why it was done in the Gen Discussion thread.

Opak, I will say this bluntly, though I support the banning, I do not support your hair trigger, or the fact you should be the last one who banned him since you are the one who has had the least interaction.

Quite frankly, he didn't deserve the banning in that thread in particular, and it looks more like a show of power, rather than an objective mod decision.

That's my take. I still love ya, but I will let my thoughts be known.





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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 12:01 PM      
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I'm with Gooch on this one. Kid may have been asking for it, but jesus opak....

quote:

The last thing opak posted before banning kid:

Dont have to talk to my boss K1d...Im content to end this now...



What would happen if we banned everyone like this? This is why people were freaking out back in the upu-era.


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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 12:07 PM      
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I'd have to agree as well. We all know that he was just itching to be banned again. But that thread really wasn't it... it didn't seem like it was going in that direction.... it was just a debate of opinion.

And yeah, banning for a difference of opinion could be considered an Up move.

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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 12:09 PM      
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Gotta say, I kinda agree with the Gooch on this one... Now, I know that Kid has done dozens of things that would have deserved to get himself banned, but I just don't see it in that GD thread...

But, like Gooch said, I still love you opak...



How about a positive LSD story, that would be newsworthy. Don't you think? Anybody think that? Just once, to hear a positive LSD story. "Today, a young man on acid, realised that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves... here's Tom with the weather." -- Bill Hicks




Froy
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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 12:57 PM      
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I have been waiting to ban Kid for a while. But I want him to be banned for an actual offense that is obvious and cannot be argued. I differ with his opinions as much as anyone, more so than most. But I have never and will never stand for bannings based on differing views like this. I'm sorry, but I'm over-riding you on this one. I'm unbanning him.


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That someday it may raise me... above these badlands
GonzoStyle
posted on 11-28-2001 @ 1:01 PM      
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I think personally you need someone like afrika on the board. I mean not for nothin but when you just have peacefulness and no one causing shit, umm it gets boring. I mean look at the board now, is it truthfully that exciting? It's lamed out a bit, but I guess froy will just laugh at me behind my back for saying it. But it's just my opinion I remember when opinions used to count here. So if mine still counts, opak was wrong in that thread for pretty much saying no ones opinions count, and for banning afrika like that. But truthfully just fight back, nail him when he nails you.

Do you really want a fuckin camp nicey nice here? Banning should be reserved for people who have already been banned but join up, for spammers i.e of websites and howard fanatics, and people who disrupt threads for the sole purpose to fuck with the board cause they hate it. So in that sense yes afrika should be banned if he was a newbie.

But I say keep him around and when he gets out of line put the fucker back in his place.




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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 1:09 PM      
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quote:

Froy Posted on: 11-28-01 @ 12:57 PM
I have been waiting to ban Kid for a while. But I want him to be banned for an actual offense that is obvious and cannot be argued. I differ with his opinions as much as anyone, more so than most. But I have never and will never stand for bannings based on differing views like this. I'm sorry, but I'm over-riding you on this one. I'm unbanning him.
I just got a call from SATAN...he said it's snowing...



How about a positive LSD story, that would be newsworthy. Don't you think? Anybody think that? Just once, to hear a positive LSD story. "Today, a young man on acid, realised that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves... here's Tom with the weather." -- Bill Hicks




Froy
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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 1:23 PM      
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No Gonzo, I actually agree with you to an extent. I like having someone who can create discussion and stir things up. I just don't agree with the times or places Kid chooses to do it.


I believe in the Faith... that can save me.
I believe in the hope and I pray...
That someday it may raise me... above these badlands
GonzoStyle
posted on 11-28-2001 @ 2:08 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

No Gonzo, I actually agree with you to an extent. I like having someone who can create discussion and stir things up. I just don't agree with the times or places Kid chooses to do it.



In turn I agree with you at times he can just storm in and it's just totally uneeded. But that's what I meant by keeping him in check, he's uncontralable and you can't change or tame him, but you can manipulate things. I truthfully like the guy off the board, on the board he can be a jackass though. But he does tend to recycle jokes but if that was a crime 80% of the board would be banned and his jokes are tasteless at times uneccesary just don' get upset. That's the most important rule when dealing with him. He never gets pissed, he is content in knowing he is getting you upset and that is what fuels him. Most people do not get it yet, that is why i usually enjoy arguing with him.




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TheGooch
Mullet Master Yo Gooch, Moron here... how's that for some fucked up shit... Fez is giving you status... Karma sucks, huh?
posted on 11-28-2001 @ 2:14 PM      
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My prob with him is exactly that too...

he seems to have no respect for anyone but him self, and alot of his arguments are just ego-boosters and pissing people off for his jollies. Off the board, and even via IM, he's a great guy. On the board, he's Upuauat Jr.





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Don't believe in and depend on anyone but yourself.
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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 2:28 PM      
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Regarding Kid A. Here is my blunt opinion. The thing that pisses me off about him is that he is really funny but chooses to defile every thread he posts in.

I personally like the posting style of kid before Gonzo did not shake his hand. ;) Attacking people occasionally but being a total wise ass all the time. Now it’s attacking the thread and people all the time and being a wise ass occasionally.

I as far as banning we need to be cleaner cut on banning. Break board rules 3 strikes and you are out, not moderating by emotion. (I can’t remember who said that in the past so props to somebody I think it was Gonzo)


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virgingrrl
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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 2:38 PM      
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i definitely agree that banning kid was an overreaction. personally he never really bothers me, and if he does, i just ignore him. its that simple.

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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 2:40 PM      
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quote:

personally he never really bothers me



That's just because he doesn't defile your Tori Amos threads.


I believe in the Faith... that can save me.
I believe in the hope and I pray...
That someday it may raise me... above these badlands
TheGooch
Mullet Master Yo Gooch, Moron here... how's that for some fucked up shit... Fez is giving you status... Karma sucks, huh?
posted on 11-28-2001 @ 2:45 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
Well, if he did that, I'd have no problem =)





Here's a tip that will save you alot of grief and time...

Don't believe in and depend on anyone but yourself.
GonzoStyle
posted on 11-28-2001 @ 2:55 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

I personally like the posting style of kid before Gonzo did not shake his hand



So my emotional scaring of him caused all of this?

quote:


That's just because he doesn't defile your Tori Amos threads.



Please that's my job we all know that it's not like tori amos isn't used to being defiled, almost raped some would say.




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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 3:00 PM      
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quote:

So my emotional scaring of him caused all of this?

Well when you did not shake his hand, he quickly scaled up a tree and swung home.


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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 4:12 PM      
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quote:

Well when you did not shake his hand, he quickly scaled up a tree and swung home.
Ding, Ding..... wait, this is BTS...nevermind....



How about a positive LSD story, that would be newsworthy. Don't you think? Anybody think that? Just once, to hear a positive LSD story. "Today, a young man on acid, realised that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves... here's Tom with the weather." -- Bill Hicks




virgingrrl
and i am apologizing now for the spelling errors, its 34 am and im drunk, so no time for spell check! Gotcha, SLASH i'll mmmm momo all i want! and you cant stop me!
posted on 11-28-2001 @ 4:20 PM      
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quote:

That's just because he doesn't defile your Tori Amos threads.


eat me king shit

quote:

Please that's my job we all know that it's not like tori amos isn't used to being defiled, almost raped some would say.


exactly, leave the tori defiling and raping to kitten, since he does do it best.


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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 4:22 PM      
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Is it too late for me to emphatically state that I did NOT unban him?

Oh, and VG, shake that ass girl!!

opak
posted on 11-28-2001 @ 8:20 PM      
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Registered: May. 00
Bah how much crap do I have to take from this little fuck?

He has been getting steadily worse since he got here im done taking his crap...he is a little attention whore and just likes to cause trouble for no reason...

The little punk has been given more slack here than anyone I have seen...

Thanks for backing me up on this one and letting people know they can just mouth off to us any time the feel likeit...

He is a little fuck that contributes nada to the board and acts like he owns it..

As far as him making a "real" offense...it aint going to happen...he is too smart and knows exactly where the line is...he tries to undermine us any chance he gets and now you are helping him...





This message was edited by opak on 11-28-01 @ 8:30 PM
Froy
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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 8:25 PM      
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Don't turn this into a you versus him show down because that's not what it's about.

For one, I do not and never have condoned personal bannings. I was also not pleased to learn that Kid got his first strike because he pissed you off in one of the old Mendi threads. If that is true, then I'm going to go so far as to take one of his strikes away.

And after your long hiatus, you are the last person who should be complaining about him riding you. I have put up with a mountain of his crap, as have many others, but we don't bring it down to that level. Take the high road when it comes to petty fights, that's your job.


I believe in the Faith... that can save me.
I believe in the hope and I pray...
That someday it may raise me... above these badlands
SLASH
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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 9:18 PM      
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quote:

Opak wrote:

letting people know they can just mouth off to us any time the feel likeit...


I totally agree.

However, if you didn't ban him for personal reasons then none of this would have happened.

quote:

opak wrote:

He is a little fuck that contributes nada to the board and acts like he owns it..


Sorry, opak, I totally disagree. He may cause controversy, but that's what this board was built on. All we can do is keep him, as well as others in check 'til they cross the line on how the board should be run as well as maintained, not banning on difference of opinion.

I'd like to say, "I love you" too, but isn't it true that ya gotta love yourself first, before you can truelly love someone else? ;)
quote:

JBA wrote:

I as far as banning we need to be cleaner cut on banning. Break board rules 3 strikes and you are out,...


That was Upuaut's game. If you all want to accept that as a standard procedure of operation, fine. I moderate my way. I have never banned and/or gave out shitty statuses for personal reasons.

If the way I moderate is no longer acceptable, I will reliquish the moderator postion.

Froy, I do not agree with posting a thread in OT, with Kid A's name attached to it no less, which was essentially a BTS thread. Replies such as Black Laz's is just the kind of attitude we don't need the members to have, especially the ones who really want to start shit. Kid actually cares about this board. However, it is your board, and it is ultimately your decision as to what you feel should and should not be made public knowledge. Besides, what's done is done... blah blah blah... can't cry over spilt milk.. yada yada yada. That's just my opinion.




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This message was edited by SLASH on 11-28-01 @ 9:52 PM

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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 9:43 PM      
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Complaining about Kid causing controversy?

We're on a message board whose URL bears the name of a show in the "shock-jock" genre. Isn't controversy what it's all about?

Did you turn your back on O&A during the Voyeur Bus controversy? Did you desert them during that stink that was caused in December/January over the bit about Howie's daughter? Of course you didn't.

Personally disliking the controversy is a choice. Protesting it solves about as much as Giuliani arresting the VB folks.

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Joey BigArms
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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 9:55 PM      
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quote:

That was Upuaut's game

::rubbing eyes:: Did I just get compaired to Upuaut?!?
I need to re-read OA.com mod manual.

Oh slash I meant that statement to be a comparison against moderating with emotion. I did not mean it as a fixed way of moderating everybody must follow.


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posted on 11-28-2001 @ 9:59 PM      
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I missed this??
Opak.. I understand your stance
I went the same route a few weeks ago... but after a bit of harassment from a pair of friends, I realized i was over the line..

I wholeheartedly agree Kid's attitude is an outright assault on the management of this board, however.. if he's banned for simply disagreeing with one of us.. we practicly martyr him, and we give him exactly what he wants.. I'm fairly positive at this point that Kid wants to goad one of us into banning him for personal reasons.. and if we do that.. he wins..

I ALSO know from IM convo's with Kid himself that he believes he's untouchable.. he outright told me that if I banned him he'ld be unbanned within a week. Obviously trying to goad me into doing so (this was a few months ago when I banned him for a week to get him to calm down)..
I was actually going to reply to Gonzo's earlier thread about Grk that everybody has something that just pushes their buttons.. it just seems that Kid enjoys pushing Mod buttons.. the point I'm trying to make is that it doesn't matter to him if he gets banned... what he wants I think is to make the mods look bad by getting them to ban him for personal reasons.. so it's doubly important to make sure IF you ban him you have a legit reason..


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