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njstrawberry
posted on 06-14-2001 @ 10:41 PM      
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But, Froy take a step back for a moment and try to look at things from my angle. Please. My fear of having Government dictate what we can and can not own scares me. I don't want the Government to tell me I can not own my own gun, if I care to choose to, which I do. I don't want the Government to dictate when I can and can not smoke cigarettes in my automobile, as the state Government of 3 Southern States have in recent history done. It is the Government's role to be a helping hand and not a heavy hand. I am totally against Big Government and their involvement on my personal possessions. And I view it as, if we allow them to dictate guns or cigarettes what is next? When will an individual like yourself, Froy, say enough is enough? When your freedom is infringed upon? I doubt you would want it to come to that.

brother joe
I write the songs that make the whole world sing....
...the Patty Duke Theme
I got the Clap from AMY!
posted on 06-14-2001 @ 11:16 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
Huh?.....I think "wango-tango" rules!!!!!


I am Joe...Musical Gladiator...I will give the people what thay want...

This message was edited by brother joe on 6-14-01 @ 11:18 PM
The Painter
1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all
posted on 06-14-2001 @ 11:21 PM      
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Registered: Sep. 00
Joe, we can all agree to that.

Kid Afrika
posted on 06-14-2001 @ 11:23 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
all? I think not.

Ted Nugent is an annoying, mildly talented, prick.

I respect his not giving a fuck, and living life by his own rules. But, his music sucks hairy man ass and he is way too self-righteous.


I have abduc... I mean adopted tankGrrl24

Black Lazerus is also benefitting from my tutelage.

It's like, "How much more black could this be?",
and the answer is none. None more black.



The Painter
1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all
posted on 06-14-2001 @ 11:28 PM      
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Alright, I take it back. None of us can agree on anything. Do you agree with that? j/k

Kid Afrika
posted on 06-14-2001 @ 11:31 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
LOL, touche' Painter. But rest assured, I was not disagreeing for the sole purpose of disagreeing.


I have abduc... I mean adopted tankGrrl24

Black Lazerus is also benefitting from my tutelage.

It's like, "How much more black could this be?",
and the answer is none. None more black.



spe5150
posted on 06-14-2001 @ 11:40 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
I know I'm late chiming in (again), but the best thing about Ted Nugent (aside from his music, because that's a matter of taste & I think he's great) is.....look at all the passion he evokes from the most unlikely of people! I know Straw is very politically aware and active, but Holy Shit, if an outsider were to read some of the posts in this thread, then gaze at the banner at the top of the page and see this is the Opie & Anthony Message Board, I think they might just shit themselves at the depth of knowledge some of our members possess. At the very least, you gotta love Nugent for the way he makes you feel about any given subject. He puts his ideas out there and damn near everyone listening snaps to love (or hate) him, but few shrug and change the channel/station.
But, to agree with 'kid', every time I think I'm on the same page as Uncle Ted, he goes on 5 minutes too long and says something that makes me say, "what a dick." But I still love to listen to the crazy bastard.


How would you feel about life...if Death was your sister?

(Looking to get flocked)
njstrawberry
posted on 06-14-2001 @ 11:50 PM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
Sorry, there are three things in my life that I am extremely passionate about: Women, Music and Politics (in no particular order) and I am starting to think I need to add a fourth one : ALCOHOL. So, in that respect I apologize for any ranting on this thread.

spe5150
posted on 06-14-2001 @ 11:54 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 00
I would venture a bet that no one would knock you on the first two...and everyone is allowed to have that floating 'wildcard' passion. More power to you.


How would you feel about life...if Death was your sister?

(Looking to get flocked)
Froy
King Shit
*board owner*

posted on 06-15-2001 @ 12:05 AM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
Straw, I think that the government has the right and duty to not allow citizens to have guns on the simple basis that it is a matter of security and protection. That as a society we are more dangerous with guns then without them. There is a big difference between banning something that is dangerous with extremely sound reasoning and banning cigarettes or candy, or whatever else you want. The government won't let you own a nuclear warhead, the government is established to protect, to protect us both externally and internally. That is the simple reason that we have laws.


Is my train in vain, has my soul gone to waste
Am I just a victim of, a victim of my lost faith
njstrawberry
posted on 06-15-2001 @ 12:17 AM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
"Huh?.....I think "wango-tango" rules!!!!!" - that has got to be the funniest thing in this damn up tight thread...I swear to holy heaven... lol

As for Froy's comments, everyone views what the government should and shouldn't do differently. I suggest you get politically active. Otherwise, individuals like myself will have more of a say on what occurs in this country than you do. You stand powerless on issues if you don't stand up for them in the eyes of the Government and participate in an active and productive manner.

Speaking of being productive, June 26th is New Jersey's Republican Gubernatorial Primary, in which only Republicans can vote in. So please, any registered Republicans in NJ, please contact me for information regarding the candidates Mr. Franks and Mr. Schundler. Thank You.

Sir Okonkwo
posted on 06-15-2001 @ 5:22 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
First of all, I'm new, so don't flame too hard.

Second of all, njstrawberry, will you marry me?? Nothing sexier than a smart and strong woman...

My reason for posting:

Froy: Your main point of contention is that this nation would be better off if there were absolutely no guns present. This is true, at least from a domestic peace-keeping perspective. However, guns cannot be un-invented. Guns are here, and as unfortunate as it may be, they are not going anywhere. Just like drugs, the government can pass law after law after law, but the fact is, laws don't elimate drugs, and they won't eliminate guns. By allowing the citizens to arm themselves appropriately against potential criminals or government oppression, the Fathers of the Constitution only supplied the people with the tools necessary to make them free and keep themselves free, and on an even plane with elected officials and those who may attempt to break into your house and rape your child. They fought a bloody war against a tyrannical government, and they didn't want to ever see it happen again, or have it happen to their descendants.

I won't disagree with the fact that if there were no guns, the world would be more gooder. But there are guns, and there always will be. Outlawing guns will only leave the guns in the hands of criminals, and the vast majority of crimes committed with firearms today occur with ILLEGALLY owned firearms already (I'll bring up stats if you need them, tomorrow. I'm sleepy now.). With that said, I firmly support waiting limits and registration, to keep guns out of the hands of those who may not be qualified to carry them, or may be predisposed to crime. There should be a happy medium somewhere.

I'll say more tomorrow, but it's 5 in the morning, and I have to get up some time tomorrow...

No sig yet.

F the S out of her A
posted on 06-15-2001 @ 11:28 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
What gets me about Nugent (and Rollins, recently), is that they have a little platform and are entertaining, but Opie wants to cut their interview short.

Why is that?

I think whenever Rollins or Nugent (or Perot or Clinton) are guests, they should have the WHOLE SHOW to take "serious questions only" and play "make the guest cry" and have their gifts smashed by Opie, instead of being pushed out the door once they get on a roll.

Sure, I've seen Nugent on "Politically Incorrect," but that bag of douches hair-weave Bill Mahr doesn't let him finish a single thought.

Dunno, maybe I just need some breakfast...

Adopted by that kid-toucher JonBenet Norton, and thankful for that (although not sitting down anymore)
Jonesin
posted on 06-15-2001 @ 12:34 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
God created all men. Smith and Wesson made all men equal. 'nuff said.


,
Damn the torpedo's, bite the bullet, go for the gusto, that's what I always say!!! Oh wait...that was someone else. Never mind.
maryjrottencrotch
posted on 06-15-2001 @ 12:57 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
the next time nugent is on he should do a lot better because he said he would join in on the fun games and play right along with the guys

GOD of PHUK
posted on 06-15-2001 @ 9:30 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: May. 01
quote:

Second of all, njstrawberry, will you marry me??
Nothing sexier than a smart and strong
woman..


Hey Okonwo, by that rationale you want to bang Janet
Reno.


Trying to be a good
little newbie since 5-31-01
The Painter
1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all
posted on 06-15-2001 @ 9:39 PM      
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quote:

I think that the government has the right and duty to not allow citizens to have guns

This scares me more than anything I've read in this discussion. What kind of totalitarian thinking is this?

Sir Okonkwo
posted on 06-15-2001 @ 11:14 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
quote:

Hey Okonwo, by that rationale you want to bang Janet Reno.



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You were saying?

No sig yet.

This message was edited by Sir Okonkwo on 6-15-01 @ 11:26 PM
njstrawberry
posted on 06-16-2001 @ 12:07 AM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
quote:

Hey Okonwo, by that rationale you want to bang Janet Reno.


Who said Janet Reno was smart? And umm Janet Reno strong? LMAO Yes, I noticed her strength many times. It takes a lot of strength to look into the eyes of America and refuse to investigate certain "issues".

quote:

What kind of totalitarian thinking is this?


That was my first thought Painter, right after the chills ran down my spine.




This message was edited by njstrawberry on 6-16-01 @ 12:13 AM
GOD of PHUK
posted on 06-16-2001 @ 3:54 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: May. 01
NJstrawberry, let me say first that I totally respect your
political activism and your desire to be fully educated
as to the way your country is run. Now, before you label
me UNeducated, let me tell you why this isn't for me. In
the history of America, I am sure you will agree with me
that there have been few to none politicians who make
good on everything they say. Part of politics is spinning
things we already know into sounding like something
different and new. Or making promises that they have
no right or power to make in the first place. There have
been politicians that have done great, great things for
this country, but I suspect that most of them had
ulterior motives for this. I do not believe that everyone
who goes into politics is a bad or even dishonest
person. I believe that once they commit to the political
machine, they find it much harder to keep their
innocence and they may even lose sight of the reason
they got into the machine in the first place. I will even
venture to say that Politicians don't corrupt politics,
Politics corrupt politicians. Let's say that in our
Democracy, the majority DID elect the president, and
not the electoral college or a stupid vote tallying
system or Jeb Bush. What if the majority of our country
is a bunch of semiretarded maniacs? That means our
president would be one who is right for the
semiretarded maniacs. They may be a majority, but
they certainly aren't representative of what the
country has to offer. And the NON -semiretarded
maniacs would then be rather neglected in the
Congress' and the President's endeavors. I have not
seen ONE form of government that, IN PRACTICE, either
lives up to the standards it sets forth, or is as truly for
the people as a government should be. We DO have one
of the best governents, if not THE best, in the world. But
there is sooooo much we do not know about the
inner-workings of this juggernaut, and I for one find my
head reeling when I try to delve into the intricacies of
it. We are all allowed a certain amount of ignorance in
our lives that we can spread as thin as we wish, but I
focus most of mine on the government. I am able to live
a relatively free life by nodding my head at the
powers-that-be and saying, "Yessuh, yessuh bawss,
yessuh." I truly respect you for your thirst for
knowledge in that area, but (wo)man, I personally
refuse to see any reason for me to get into that black
hole I call politics. And to bring this reply back to what
it was meant for, my ignorance reaches its breaking
strain when it flaps over the part of our government's
history called "Janet Reno". That vulgar display she set
forth with the taking of that poor Cuban boy disgusted
me. And instead of fighting a battle that sooo many
people have lost, I look away from the badness and
pretend it isn't there. I hope this doesn't make you
think less of me, strawberry, because I think quite
highly of you.


Trying to be a good
little newbie since 5-31-01
njstrawberry
posted on 06-16-2001 @ 4:26 AM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
quote]Let's say that in our Democracy, the majority DID elect the president, and not the Electoral College or a stupid vote tallying
system or Jeb Bush.


Just by that statement you have shown that you are uneducated in the manner, in which our President is elected. I suggest you go to the Library of Congress sometime and read why we have the Electoral College and why it's purpose is ever so needed in this day and age. I don't think any less of you, I respect all opinions and I know there are a million things out there that cover a wide array of topics and issues that I, myself, need to become more familiar with and educated about. I am sure the opportunity will arise in the future when you will enlighten me. I just wish that every news channel we watch wouldn't be so far to the liberal left, as most are. Sometimes, you have to stand in the middle to get a good reflection of what's around you. I feel bad for people that believe everything that ABC or CBS spits out at them. Those are the voters, who think they are making a right choice in the ballot box and are actually making the biggest mistake ever.

As for your statement on politicians brainwashing or negatively influencing other politicians, you are on the right track but slightly off. I have found out, through personal on goings, that it is the higher ups from a particular party that do the most damage. In fact, for a recent election, I was told exactly who to back verbally so my district would support them. I had two choices, one was to support who I wanted regardless or go along with what they told me to do. Now, since I am planning on moving up within the party and politics I would have had to make a decision that wouldn't come back to bite me in the ass because when I go for an election that costs big bucks those are the same people I have to go ask for financial backing from. I was lucky that the person they wanted me to back I had been supporting all along. So, my decision was made prior to their proposition. Another time, I dared to verbally go against whom they wanted me to back for the Gubernatorial race for this election. I am lucky that the guy they wanted me to back was dropped from primary for June 26th. So, again by the grace of pure luck I was saved from burning myself within the political realm of my party. Next time, I may not be so lucky. It's a matter of how far I want to advance. I am not Jon Corzine, I can't tell my party to go to hell because I have $60 million of my own money to invest into my Senate run. Understand? Am I an honest politician? No, because I don't consider myself to be one. I see myself as a public servant. The minute I slap the politician label to my name is the day I realize I have been bought. Do we need a major over-haul of the way we handle our politics? Yes. Will happen over night? I doubt it would even occur in our lifetime. It will be a slow progression, if any. That's why we need clear thinkers to enter this unknown world of politics. That's why I do what I do. If I can make the slightest change for the better today, then I don't care if I am out of the game tomorrow.






This message was edited by njstrawberry on 6-16-01 @ 4:36 AM
adolescentmasturbator
posted on 06-16-2001 @ 1:34 PM      
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What is with everyone picking on Socialism?:) I would just like to make my points. The Republican Party was the liberal party until Roosevelt when the Democrats took over that. Also you talk about wheter the Democrats or Republicans approved Women's Suffrage but you are forgetting that almost all the Suffragettes were Socialists. Many of these Progressive ideas and programs that came through were because of Socialists. As for Straw you say Socialist countries are oppressive I assume you are talking about the Soviet Union, China, etc. Well in my opinion those do not qualify as a true socialism to me. They are Dictatorial State Capitalisms. Now before you go off and say that all Socialists want to do is oppress research it because I take serious offense to wanting to oppess people's rights.



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GOD of PHUK
posted on 06-16-2001 @ 1:56 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: May. 01
You have a good, healthy attitude about the way the
world is and the political machine is run. I guess I
didn't express myself as eloquently as I had liked when
I was talking about the politicians being influenced by
politics and vice versa. What I am saying is that there
seem to be a lot of people in politics who start in the
field to make a difference in the way things are run.
These same people also seem to get caught up in the
whole drama and theater of politics, and often lose
sight of their goals. OR, even worse, their goals often
become twisted towards their party's or colleagues'
own. I know for a fact that the responsibilities involved
in any public offense are tremendous, and I can see
how one who is not of EXTREMELY steadfast opinions
can begin to tire against all the pressures they endure.
But see, to allow a politician any kind of leeway when it
comes to keeping their opinions is wrong. It's like
saying, "Doctors are people, too.", whichis a statement
used in defense of malpractice, etc., and it is a
statement I fucking loathe. Doctors hold the lives of
people in their hands many times a day, many days a
week, etc. These people should be the PINNACLES of
society, and not some kid with a drug-arrest record as
long as Ron Jeremy's schlong. The same goes for
politicians. i do not feel it is unfair to insist that my
politicians are people who are steadfast, intelligent,
and above the usual problems of most people. As a
matter of fact, i think it is a necessity to have people
like that in office. You are not only an example to
everyone you touch as a politician, but you also have
been granted the greatest forum in the world. Where
was I going with this? Oh yeah, you said you were lucky
the candidate they told you to endorse was the one
you had liked from the get-go. That IS lucky. I hope
someday your efforts DO make a difference, but I on the
other hand am much more cynical. It makes me feel
better to sit back and be angry with the government
and go on with my life than it does to activate myself in
it. Which is something I feel guilty about and wish our
country wasn't so full of people with my attitude. But if
someone running under the banner of NJStrawberry
came around to run for office, I would then know who to
vote for. And you are right, I don't know a hell of a lot
about the electoral college. But what I do know is that I
did NOT want GWB to win this past election, and he won
in a shady-as-shit way. I cannot respect a man whose
grasp of the language this country was founded on is
limited to countless misuse and mispronunciation of
common words. I am not a linguistical seperatist, but I
do believe that if you choose a language to speak,
whether it be Spanish, English, or even Swahili, you
should KNOW it. I, as a writer, feel that the power of a
properly-wielded vocabulary rivals any other weapon
you can place in front of me. I don't know if I added to
the discussion at all, straw, but you definitely spark
something in me, debate-wise.


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a really lot.
IslesBaby00
I'm so blonde, I think Taco Bell is the Mexican phone company
posted on 06-16-2001 @ 1:59 PM      
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I think that nugent was cool but he does the same thing over and over again......

The Painter
1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all
posted on 06-16-2001 @ 8:33 PM      
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This seems to have gotten political. Here's a little addition:

ne working at the following company?
It has a little over 500 employees with the following statistics:
>>
29 have been accused of spousal abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
19 have been accused of writing bad checks
117 have bankrupted at least 2 businesses
3 have been arrested for assualt
71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shoplifting
21 are current defendants in lawsuits
84 (in 1998 alone), were stopped for drunk driving
>>
>>
Can you guess which organization this is?
>>
>>
It's the 535 members of your United States Congress. The same group that perpetually cranks out hundreds upon hundreds of new laws designed to keep the rest of us in line.




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