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EAFofNY
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 12:17 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Sep. 00
I wonder if we could make the FCC an enemy of the show? Start thinking of new terms for sexual references and the like. Although they mention RADIO EDIT, I'm sure our boys are high up on the watch list.



WASHINGTON (Variety) - The Federal Communications Commission has pulled a stun gun on shock jocks, releasing unprecedented indecency guidelines for broadcasters.

In other words: Howard Stern, the government has just given the public a big bar of soap to wash out your mouth.

The FCC order, released late Friday, refers to several examples of morning radio banter -- as well as songs -- in spelling out what might be lewd and patently offensive to the listening public.

``Understandably, the public is outraged by the increasingly coarse content aired on radio and television at all hours of the day, including times when children are most likely to be listening or watching,'' Democratic FCC commisisoner Susan Ness said. ``The flood of letters and e-mail we receive reflects a high degree of anger. Despite an onslaught of on-air smut, the commission necessarily walks a delicate line when addressing content issues, and must be careful not to tread on the First Amendment -- the constitutional bulwark of our free society.''

Indecency has long been defined by the FCC as broadcast programming that describes or depicts sexual or excretory organs or activities. New parameters are designed to make it easier for everyone involved to figure out what's not acceptable. A main thrust of the guidelines is premeditation and intent.

The FCC has not and will not monitor the airwaves; rather, it will be the average citizen who brings a complaint.


If a broadcaster is cited for airing indecent content, the FCC can revoke a station's license, impose a fine or issue a warning.

The ban on patently offensive broadcasts runs only from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m., the hours when kids are most likely to be tuning in.

Issuance of the document is a defining moment for new FCC chair Michael Powell, a Republican appointed to the top slot by President Bush (news - web sites).

In 1994, a court directed the FCC to clarify what's patently offensive, the longtime standard. It has taken the FCC until now to do so, with Powell the first chairman apparently willing to tackle the matter.

Powell did not release an accompanying statement to the order, as did his colleagues Ness, commissioner Harold Furchtgott-Roth and commissioner Gloria Tristani.


Here are factors the FCC will consider when processing indecency complaints:

-- The explicitness and graphic nature of the broadcast. The more explicit the language, the greater the likelihood of indecency. To illustrate the point, the FCC referred to several Howard Stern comments, including ``Have you ever had sex with an animal? Well, don't knock it. I was sodomized by Lambchop.''

-- The extent to which sexual innuendo is repeated. The FCC referred to a segment of KLOL-FM's ``Stevens and Pruett Show'' in Houston, in which the shock jocks talked about size.

The more fleeting the reference, the less likely it will be judged indecent. Conversely, persistent references to sexual or excretory organs or activities may get a broadcaster into trouble. FCC cited the song ``Bubba, the Love Sponge'' as indecent, for its repeated reference to a sexual act.

The FCC, however, deemed that a newscaster on KPRL-AM/KDDB-FM in Paso Robles, Calif., was not indecent for the expletive ``Oops, fucked that one up,'' since it was a fleeting and isolated statement.

FCC cautioned that even a fleeting reference may be indecent if it describes, let's say, sex with a minor.

Audibility also plays a factor. A garbled track may be off the hook, even if explicit.

-- The extent to which a broadcast panders, titillates or possesses intentional shock value. The purpose of the broadcast weighs heavily in determining whether it's indecent.

The FCC referred again to the following transcript of the ``Stevens & Pruett Show'': ``Sex survey lines are open. Today's question, it's a strange question and we hope we have a lot of strange answers. What makes your hiney parts tingle?''

Just because explicit language is used doesn't make it indecent. For instance, a bona fide news report using such language is probably in the clear.

Context plays a critical role. In the past, the FCC has ruled that a radio talk show discussing sex education and teens was not indecent. Same went for an ``Oprah'' segment addressing how to have better sex with a partner. Likewise for ''Schindler's List,'' which pictured frontal nudity.

Democrat Tristani, a longtime champion of citizens' filing indecency complaints, said the regulatory agency didn't go far enough, and more rigorous enforcement rules are needed.

She said the guidelines will ``likely become instead a 'how-to' manual for those licensees who wish to tread the line drawn by our cases.''

Ness said it is time for the broadcast industry to take responsibility and institute a voluntary code of conduct.

``Release of this policy statement alone will not solve the festering problem of indecency on the airwaves. However, it is entirely within the power of broadcasters to address it --and to do so without government intrusion,'' Ness said. ``I encourage broadcasters, the Bush administration and Congress swiftly to resolve any antitrust impediments to such action and move ahead.''



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My farts have bass.
Sonof Spaz
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 12:28 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Aug. 00
It is always an ugly woman or a religious nut who comes up with this crap.
By the way, who was the author?

This message was edited by Sonof Spaz on 4-9-01 @ 12:35 PM
Ninjake79
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 12:29 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Nov. 00
**a radio talk show discussing sex education and teens was not indecent**

Looks like more Teen Week will be ok.

TeenWeek
what's a status?
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 12:35 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
Ninjake, I was just going to post that. More Naked Teens for everybody!!!


Teens, making the world a better place to live in.
IkeaBoy
P.L.F.
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I will die a traitor's death
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 12:42 PM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Sep. 00
the FCC IS an enemy of the show, it's an enemy for all shows.

quote:


``Understandably, the public is outraged by the increasingly coarse content aired on radio and television at all hours of the day..."



BZZZ Wrong, try again dumbass. A lot of people would like to hear more freedom on the airwaves. And at later hours people should sure as hell be allowed to say whatever the fuck they want. Fucking pansy

quote:

The FCC, however, deemed that a newscaster on KPRL-AM/KDDB-FM in Paso Robles, Calif., was not indecent for the expletive ``Oops, fucked that one up,'' since it was a fleeting and isolated statement.


If he can say that than Every single fucking radio host should be allowed to say "oops fucked that one up" when they make a mistake.

And let's play the which rules O&A break game:

1) The explicitness and graphic nature of the broadcast. Ding ding ding. They have sweepers of them having gay sex.

2) The extent to which sexual inneuendo is repeated ding ding ding. Do I even need to give an example

3) The extent to which a broadcast panders, titillates or possesses intentional shock value. Do O&A produce intentional shock value? That's totally up to you to decide. Then they go and give an example of an "indecent" line-- What makes your hiney parts tingle? If They think THAT'S indecent, O&A will blow their fucking minds. Short poll: Worse language- What makes your hiney part tingle? or Coffee, Tea or me?

If these rules are followed, O&A won't be on the air past May.





This message was edited by IkeaBoy on 4-9-01 @ 12:58 PM
Ronreddog
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 12:49 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
quote:

Context plays a critical role. In the past, the FCC has ruled that a radio talk show discussing sex education and teens was not indecent.



WHEW! For a minute there, I thought that the next "Teen Week" would not happen. They have to be even more creative in their approach. I have no doubts in their talent to make it happen.

Ant, any comments on this?

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EAFofNY
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 12:52 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Sep. 00
quote:

It is always an ugly woman or a religious nut who comes up with this crap.
By the way, who was the author?



The Federal Communications Commission a/k/a The United States Government

Still "just lurking"

My farts have bass.
TeenWeek
what's a status?
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 12:59 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
Ikea, if these rules exist and are enforced, the show won't make it until it's first break and we will hear a continuous loop of Van Halen.


Teens, making the world a better place to live in.
Froy
King Shit
*board owner*

posted on 04-09-2001 @ 1:02 PM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Feb. 01
Hoo hoo, I invented breaking indecency guidelines...


~Matt/Froy from Jersey

Official Protector of Gay Marco & SwampJunk...if he ever decides to post.
Dan
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 1:10 PM      
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Registered: Jul. 00
Don't worry. O&A are professionals and will find a creative way to maintain the smut value of their show, while adhering to the guidelines. I'm confident they will titilate us fully and continue to avoid ever being fined by the FCC...

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Sonof Spaz
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 1:19 PM      
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Registered: Aug. 00
quote:

The FCC order, released late Friday, refers to several examples of morning radio banter -- as well as songs -- in spelling out what might be lewd and patently offensive to the listening public.

It is the reason the shows get ratings. If you don't like it don't listen DEEEEEK!

quote:

``Understandably, the public is outraged by the increasingly coarse content aired on radio and television at all hours of the day, including times when children are most likely to be listening or watching,'' Democratic FCC commisisoner Susan Ness said. ``The flood of letters and e-mail we receive reflects a high degree of anger. Despite an onslaught of on-air smut, the commission necessarily walks a delicate line when addressing content issues, and must be careful not to tread on the First Amendment -- the constitutional bulwark of our free society.''

This public that she describes is the people who don't listen to the shows anyway. The "public" that she describes is her and the stuck up bitches like her. The children excuse is so lame its stupid. Children listen to music radio, not shock jocks because their parents usually care about what their children are listening.

quote:

Indecency has long been defined by the FCC as broadcast programming that describes or depicts sexual or excretory organs or activities. New parameters are designed to make it easier for everyone involved to figure out what's not acceptable. A main thrust of the guidelines is premeditation and intent.

What does "New parameters are designed to make it easier for everyone involved to figure out what's not acceptable. " mean exactly? huh? Do yo want the government to censor what you listen to?

quote:

The FCC has not and will not monitor the airwaves; rather, it will be the average citizen who brings a complaint

The average citizen does not care because they have more sense than to care what a stupid jock says. This "average citizen" will be a member of a public advocacy group hung up on what the "children" might hear.

quote:

The ban on patently offensive broadcasts runs only from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m., the hours when kids are most likely to be tuning in.

It "only runs from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m". Well that "only" is only about two-thirds of the day. I am sure that the children will not stay up and listen to radio like what happened with joe pee and the rest of the kids that stayed up to R&F when they were up in late nights.

quote:

Issuance of the document is a defining moment for new FCC chair Michael Powell, a Republican appointed to the top slot by President Bush (news - web sites).

And you thought that Gore's Vice President was going to this.

Things that the FCC will look for to censor:


  1. The explicitness and graphic nature of the broadcast.
  2. The extent to which sexual innuendo is repeated.
  3. The extent to which a broadcast panders, titillates or possesses intentional shock value. The purpose of the broadcast weighs heavily in determining whether it's indecent.
    The extent to which a broadcast panders, titillates or possesses intentional shock value.
  4. The purpose of the broadcast weighs heavily in determining whether it's indecent.



quote:

FCC cautioned that even a fleeting reference may be indecent if it describes, let's say, sex with a minor.

:rolleyes:
quote:

Just because explicit language is used doesn't make it indecent. For instance, a bona fide news report using such language is probably in the clear.

Opie and Anthony:Your all news station

quote:

Democrat Tristani, a longtime champion of citizens' filing indecency complaints, said the regulatory agency didn't go far enough, and more rigorous enforcement rules are needed.

She said the guidelines will ``likely become instead a 'how-to' manual for those licensees who wish to tread the line drawn by our cases.''

Why is she so hung up on this issue? Go solve a more important problem like education refrom or helping the poor.

quote:

Ness said it is time for the broadcast industry to take responsibility and institute a voluntary code of conduct.

This is such bullshit. If you don't like it don't listen to it. We live in a capatialist democratic republic and not a fascist or fundamentalist regime. Remember people that you put these people directly or indirectly in power by doing whatever.

quote:

``Release of this policy statement alone will not solve the festering problem of indecency on the airwaves. However, it is entirely within the power of broadcasters to address it --and to do so without government intrusion,'' Ness said. ``I encourage broadcasters, the Bush administration and Congress swiftly to resolve any antitrust impediments to such action and move ahead.''

If this will not solve the "Festering problem of indeceny" why them put it out at all? Why don't they just get rid of the first admendment and replace it with something that will not harm the children.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

The only way to solve this problem is if all the shock jocks form a coalition. I know that this is hard because most have huge egos but if they don't want the FCC to be lurking in the the shadows, then they have to do something.

P.S.
quote:

The Federal Communications Commission a/k/a The United States Government

I meant the article itself. It was biased since it did not mention the side that was opposed to the new censor guidelines and the way it was put together.


This message was edited by Sonof Spaz on 4-9-01 @ 1:24 PM
Doc Smith
I Love Anthony Zinni
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 1:20 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Sep. 00
hehe, you said titilate

BARRY MANILOW
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 1:20 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
If I read the article right...O&A do not fall into the guidelines because they are an afternoon show.

quote:

The ban on patently offensive broadcasts runs only from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m., the hours when kids are most likely to
be tuning in.




TheGooch
Mullet Master Yo Gooch, Moron here... how's that for some fucked up shit... Fez is giving you status... Karma sucks, huh?
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 1:42 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
Another interesting article...

Feds Post Indecent Material
by Declan McCullagh



If you've ever wondered how far Howard Stern's raunchy broadcasts can go, the FCC has finally answered your question.

In a fascinating 28-page report released Friday, the nation's radio and TV censor has offered dozens of examples of broadcasts that it deems "indecent" and some that are acceptable for airing.

The line between what's perfectly lawful and what will get a radio station's license yanked seems undeniably fuzzy, but some examples may clarify the FCC's position.

Indecent: "Soon she was fondling my Peter Paul and Zagnuts, and I knew it wouldn't be long before I blew my Milk Duds clear to Mars and gave her a taste of the old Milky Way..."

Not indecent: "Dick suggests maybe getting a mega-Dick to help out, but you know, you remember the time the King ate mega-Dick under the table..."

Indecent: "Well, it was a nice big fart. I'm feeling very gaseous at this point."

Not indecent: "The hell I did, I drove motherfucker, oh. Oh."

Indecent: "Could you take the phone and rub it on your Chia Pet? Oh, let me make sure nobody is around ... Now was that really your little beaver?"

Not indecent: "Oops, fucked that one up."

Indecent: "Sit on my face and tell me that you love me. I'll sit on your face and tell you I love you too."

Not indecent: "American wives all across the country have confessed to using erotic aids to spice up their sex life and ... thousands of women say they fantasize while having sex with their husbands."

Indecent: "The man complained earlier that he was so large that it was ruining his marriages. Big is good if the guy knows how to use it ... somebody big is just going to have to find somebody that's big."

Indecent: "Have you ever had sex with an animal? Well, don't knock it. I was sodomized by Lambchop."

----

TeenWeek
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posted on 04-09-2001 @ 1:56 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
Barry, 6AM-10PM does include the afternoon show, the midday show, and the nighttime show.


Teens, making the world a better place to live in.
The Brain
He's good at teh rhyming questions
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 1:59 PM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
quote:

The ban on patently offensive broadcasts runs only from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m., the hours when kids are most likely to be tuning in.

They always try this garbage argument, but it boils down to the same thing: kids do not listen to these shows. On the rare occasion that a kid will actually be listening to radio in the morning before school as opposed to watching TV (like we all know they are actually doing), they are most likely listening to music, not talk.

It pisses me off that TV is allowed to constantly push boundaries even when kids are most likely watching, but radio has to be held to some higher standard even though kids are not paying it as much attention.



"ARE YOU PONDERING WHAT I'M PONDERING?"
BARRY MANILOW
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 2:05 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
OK.....I thought it said 6 AM - 10 AM for whatever reason. I'm a tool.


Arthur Dent
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 2:13 PM      
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Registered: Nov. 00
FCC rules are INTENTINALLY vague so that they can be interpreted ANY WAY THAT GETS VOTES FOR THE INCUMBENT ADMINISTRATION! The media has enjoyed 8 years under a liberal democratic government that has basicly IGNORED the media and standards. Now there is a conservative republican administration that is going to clamp down as a way of gaining suppport from the people that elected them.

Oh and
quote:

In other words: Howard Stern, the government has just given the public a big bar of soap to wash out your mouth.




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kansei
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 2:21 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Sep. 00
My worst suspicions are confirmed. I've been noticing that the Infinity lawyers have been tightening down on what can be said on WNEW in the last few months. I remember both R&F and O&A keep getting dumped more & more, and discussing more & more new rules. When is this FCC bullshit going to stop????

Rog2K
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 2:30 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

FCC cautioned that even a fleeting reference may be indecent if it describes, let's say, sex with a minor.


Looks like Gonzo will never even get the chance to make it in radio...

Bottom line. Same shit, different day. Bible belt has the biggest voice, yadda yadda yadda...


"The ass-f's need to be crushed."-Buttmunch
The Brain
He's good at teh rhyming questions
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 2:36 PM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
quote:

When is this FCC bullshit going to stop????


It never will, simply because the a--holes with enough free time to decide on things that "offend" them are also the people who fill the voting booths most, whereas the slackers who really don't care about the "indecency" issue are also probably not too involved in politics, and so their voices get ignored.



"ARE YOU PONDERING WHAT I'M PONDERING?"
The O & A Radio Network
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 3:25 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Feb. 01
Censorship is the worst thing that can happen to this country.

Does anybody know the monetary fines that WNEW has had lately? That could be an indication as to exactly how much they'll have to cut back on the indecent content. If it's really bad, be prepared to have O & A cut back drastically on their content. If they don't we'll have to live with having whole chunks of their show being chopped up before the show goes over the air. If FCC means business, that means a bunch of their bits will have to go (Horny for little girls comes to mind). Hopefully this will be another bump in the road for free speech, people died to give it to us that right, and no one should take it from us.

I've heard a more objectionable material on XFL games and if "Your all news station" has to be, than so be it.

FCC -- worse than AIDS.



All teens news. All the time. This is WONA.
Eddie Haskell
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 4:55 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Mar. 01
In the last election a major split occurred with "Red" states and "Blue" states. The "Red" elected Bush, and these are mostly bible belt states that want to impose their will on the rest of the country.
Everyone on this and every other board has time to waste...how about e-mailing your Congressmen and Senators and tell them how pissed you are!

BANGING MRS CLEAVER 24/7!!!
katya_ann
That's Miss Jesus Cooze to you!
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 5:07 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Apr. 01
The FCC and conservative parents shouldn't be concerned with protecting their children's virgin ears from the likes of O&A or even *radio edit*; they should be more concerened with protecting their kids from the general cluster f-- that is high school. The majority of teenagers aren't quoting O&A or *edit*. Everyone drops a load when anything remotely sexual is uttered or eluded to on the radio. How about talking to your neglected kids about sex early on so they know what's wrong and right to begin with? Tools... Keeping O&A or anyone, even *edit*, the bastard, from talking about what everyone else is thinking is asinine. There's this thing called an off button. If you can't utalize it, then it's your own damn fault. Everyone KNOWS what kind of content O&A, etc. broadcast.
quote:

...persistent references to sexual or excretory organs or activities may get a broadcaster into trouble.


"PERSISTANT"

How damn hard is to listen, hear something offensive, and turn the radio off?

"You don't like it, move to Russia!" -Homer



---walk it off, deek
pmbillrich
posted on 04-09-2001 @ 5:39 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Oct. 00
Is anyone else disappointed that O&A weren't mentioned by the FCC? I mean if O&A are so dirty, shouldn't they get as much federally sponsered advertising as the rest of these limp dicks?

By the way, does anyone know where I can get a copy of the song: "Bubba, the love sponge?" If it's so indecent, I've just GOT to hear it!

Stuck in the boonies, Forced underground, two minutes late.


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