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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: FU to RAP ARTISTS who feed the white stereotype | ||||
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OA.com's Bodyguard Anger problem? What anger problem? I hate the fucking mud! USA | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 1:08 PM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01  | The thing I don't get and annoys me is why the hell do rap artists (and I use the term artists loosely) need to ALWAYS have other rappers/hip hoppers make cameos in their videos. This isn't a recent thing either as I can recall it going on since the days of "You down with O.P.P.? Yeah you know me."
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| IrishAlkey Chucky Official OA.com Homo CUNT ROCKETTE Look who's laughing now, fuckers!!! Is It In Yet? JYD-4-LIFE [Sarcasm]Subzero316 fan since day one!!1!![/Sarcasm] "my mod powers are on temporary hiatus" This status is sponsored by: P®oJë©T M@¥hέm | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 1:12 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Aug. 01 | Hey Negro...check out the D12 and Eminem...nice!? Flock...the more big names, the bigger the hit. Certain rock bands do it too, just not as often.  | ||||
| WookiePoolParty | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 1:40 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | ::goes to CD collection, pulls out "Dylan & The Dead.":: :-) James John Maceiko Jr. United States Citizen Resident of New York City, Manhattan  | ||||
| Snoteater | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 1:44 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Apr. 01 | Or how about the trend of Rappers in White Face. I have no Idea what the rap song is, but it's the video with the dudes playing baseball is one example. If a white band did the reverse, They would see the little of stage ever again. | ||||
| ThatTerribleAwfulNegro | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 3:16 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: The song is by Nelly. I don't know the name, but it's the one where they sample the theme from, The Jeffersons, -'Moving on up'. well, i don't think it's a trend snoteater, i mean, busta rhymes does the same thing too in a couple of his videos...but the bottom line is - the song sucks! i mean, shit, nelly's songs ALL suck. who can really get offended? i don't think they meant it as any form of minstrelcy- but who knows. in everlast's video, black jesus- they have a white dude dressed up in blackface who they cut back and forth to in quick edits. he didn't mean anything demeaning by it. I just think it's funny everytime i hear one of those, 'Oh my god, these black {insert brand-X black entertainer} media people are doing this or that, if WHITE {insert brand-X white entertainer} media people EVER did that................heavens-to-betsy!!! the entire bedrock of american society would just ATTACK said white media people in a foray of criticism, outrage and double standards' ..or so the argument goes..sorry folks, i'm just not biting. it doesn't happen. shit is done all the time to that effect, with absolutely no repercussions. the rare time you do hear about someone like the 'greasemen' getting fired..it's because of something heinous that he did that deserved censure. making fun of a man that was dragged to death, his body being split and torn apart literally, while he was still alive...and to add insult..JUST because he was black..that's fucking heinous and the greaseman deserved what he got. just like the KKK idiot-savants that did the act deserved what they got and worse. where you DO have a point, and i've brought this point up before, is with those infernal idiots, the black hebrew israelites..for the life of me I don't understand WHY they're allowed to preach their crap daily and nightly in the fucking middle of new york?? should we let the KKK come up next and do their shit?? damn!!!  This message was edited by ThatTerribleAwfulNegro on 9-26-01 @ 6:19 PM | ||||
| GonzoStyle | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 5:16 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | Damn you, lol i was looking to get into a good argument and you pussies gave me nothing, lol ahh well since we aren't gonna get it can someone answer me a question I like D12, Eminem, Mystikal, Outkast etc etc But Nelly really gets to me the guy has no rhyming skills whatsoever the guy has that annoying rhyming style of ending the sentence with the same extensions for like 30 lines and he just pisses me off, why is he popular? Plus movin on up was a disgrace.  "For all we have and are, for all our children's fate, stand up and take the war, the Hun is at the gate!" --- Rudyard Kipling She-Mail Me Here | ||||
| Lent Black Rock Coalition Do you have a basketball in your car? | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 6:01 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: May. 00 | If these vids disturb you Jeff, just turn off MTV. What is on MTV isn't the full representative of hip-hop. Don't even watchBET which MTV OWNS Like Terrible Negro said, there are groups like the Roots out there who are not out their in the full "bling bling" glory. Personally I hate this fashion show going on in hip-hop. The Cash Phoney Millionaries (guess what, most of them aren't millionaries since they've been fucked in record deals) and Master P needs to be fucked up like Bin Laden will be. And NELLY FUCKING SUCKS and the St. Lunatics are (in a norton voice), awful! quote: Redman, what a brillant artist. He represents Newark to the fullest and doesn't let success go to his head. quote:Great music! I can't get the Prison Song outta my head!  LET'S GO RED STORM! St.Johns U. '04 | ||||
| IrishAlkey Chucky Official OA.com Homo CUNT ROCKETTE Look who's laughing now, fuckers!!! Is It In Yet? JYD-4-LIFE [Sarcasm]Subzero316 fan since day one!!1!![/Sarcasm] "my mod powers are on temporary hiatus" This status is sponsored by: P®oJë©T M@¥hέm | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 6:44 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Aug. 01 | Shit Lent...how fukin phat is the "Prison song?" For anyone who hasn't heard it please check it out...it's addictive. Gonzo, Nelly is just irritating, it's one of those things we'll never fully comprehend like the mystery of God. | ||||
| JohnSlack
| posted on 09-26-2001 @ 8:19 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | TTAN, I think you've hit it right on the head. But don't you think that by portraiting this stereotype it does great damage to the black community as a self-fulfilling prohecy? Don't get me wrong, I don't mean black kids are going to go out and commit crimes after watching these videos, what I mean is that they will feel they have to 'talk the talk' to be respected. I mean how many kids do you see in the city, that blow all their money on ridiculous silver chains and fubu crap to look the look? Then if you have a bunch of innercity kids walking around in a year long thug halloween costume, it then further perpetrates the fear of black people by white people, because they see these 'thugs' walking around. Especially with the lines being blurred between hip-hop culture and the NBA, its even worse. Think about it, many inner city kids think the only way out is basketball or rapping. and now you have players like Allen Iverson furthering the thug stereotype. lets not even get into his ridiculous garthbrooks/chris gaines/allen iverson/Jewelz thing.. And on an interesting side note, most of those rappers don't even own any of that stuff you see. The record companies think they need the jewelry and cars to keep up the image, so they loan them to them.  "Philly: It's Camden - with a bell." - Jim Norton | ||||
| Spuds_Buckley | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 8:51 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: no no no....It's Bruce Hornsby and the Range's "Way it Is" quote: Kentucky Fried Movie...what great movie As for the topic at hand...what are you gonna do? As long as stupid white suburban kids see the blacks guys in the videos getting with all the "ho's" and "bitches" they think they too can get them if they act "black" It goes along the running gag that black people create these fashion fads just so white kids look stupid. The true blacks see this shit on mtv and laugh, cause they know it strictly for Carson Daly and the rest of the feable minded herd that thinks he some sort of "cool guy" At least that's what I think...  I hope he tells us to burn our pants...these things are driving me nuts! Hold on there maestro, there's a "New" Mexico? | ||||
| ThatTerribleAwfulNegro | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 9:39 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Yeah, It's fucking sad! corporations controlling the artistic lifeblood in the community. most urban youth will pick up a basketball far quicker than they will a musical instrument...just fucking pisses me off. but it's not all bad! there are exceptions to every circumstance and the status quo is changed with every person that just says, "fuck this!" quote: Hey Gonz, after I so skillfully destroyed your arguments, I figured that there was no need to continue along those lines..I just MOVED ON G-Diddy! | ||||
The sky is blue | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 10:03 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Oct. 00 | YEAH YEAH YEAH SHOUT OUT TO ALL MY COOCHIE LOVIN NIGGAS IN THE JOINT! WORD!  Wanna be the coolest kid on your block? Get an 'I love Froy t-shirt!' Add it to your sig today! Email me at fezoanda@hotmail.com | ||||
| GonzoStyle | posted on 09-26-2001 @ 10:39 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | quote: coochie lovin nigga crew? you are forming a rival to the Hoochie Lovin Jew Crew? aight G i smell ya dirty, just throw me a holla dawg and it's on kid. We'll chizzlie in the hizzle, dizzle. "For all we have and are, for all our children's fate, stand up and take the war, the Hun is at the gate!" --- Rudyard Kipling She-Mail Me Here | ||||
| FoundryMusicJeff | posted on 09-27-2001 @ 1:11 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | and once again a relatively good topic of discussion reduced to one liners and "obscure" references Chief Engineer of the Starship Foundry. (NCC 1841-A) Visit FoundryMusic & Chat   | ||||
| GonzoStyle | posted on 09-27-2001 @ 1:14 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | quote: There were plenty of good points bought up here but come on most threads here always end up having nothing to do with the original topic, look at my latest FU it took 3 posts to veer it off course. "For all we have and are, for all our children's fate, stand up and take the war, the Hun is at the gate!" --- Rudyard Kipling She-Mail Me Here | ||||
| PatCooper | posted on 09-27-2001 @ 12:21 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | What surprises me is how many members listen to Hip-Hop.So with that in mind the music has blended into our lives.Music shouldn't have racial bounderies.If your white and love hip hop thats great.There are plenty of white rappers on the underground circuit that have talent. I've Adopted Jacob | ||||
| mrbungle | posted on 09-27-2001 @ 1:37 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | First off, the rap industry would not be half as strong without the droves of dumbass white kids that buy most of the crap... Secondly, support true rap artists: Public Enemy De La Soul The Pharcyde A Tribe Called Quest Beastie Boys RUN-DMC Cypress Hill Jurassic 5 Biz Markie 3rd Bass Remember the old school! Peace!  It's not funny, my ass is on fire.... Thanks to the lovely Jolene for my sig pic... Douche or dressing? Yeahhh!!! | ||||
| PatCooper | posted on 09-27-2001 @ 2:41 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: Let's say you owned a restaraunt.And you only served black men and woman.Is that a good business plan?No it's not.For you as a business man you need to sell your product to Everyone .All forms of media and entertainment are for the masses.Who gives a fuck about color.It's god damn music.Enjoy it. quote: Yeah all great artists from the day.But were in the hell are they now?They are praying for MTV and hot-97 to do a interview with them.3rd Bass???Can you say One Hit Wonder.I think you can. I've Adopted Jacob | ||||
| Beyond Mirth | posted on 09-27-2001 @ 4:25 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Sep. 01 | I agree that it is not right for rap artists to portray a life of crime of 'thug' life. By the same token, you have to realize that the reason these vids are so popular and will continue to be made is because it is what the majority of people want to see. If it wasn't it would not be on TV. And to tell you the truth I would not be surprised if most of these people ARE upper-middle class white teenagers. They WANT to see it, they WANT to listen to it. It is like anything else, it will evolve with society. There are rap groups :Roots, Tribe, De La Soul, Outkast, who don't try to prtray a life of crime and they do have a positive message. They are all awesome musicians and they are very popular among musicians and a lot of jazz artists, but your average teenager wants more violence than that. They want DMX flailing around like a "monkey" (and I'm not calling blacks monkeys but he is obviously acting like one). What about bands like Slipknot, Dry Kill Logic, Nothingface, these are sick bands and they sing of violence and chaos and anger; are they wrong in expressing their beliefs? At their last concert, Slipknot had 43 broken ribs among the members of the band, THE MEMBERS!!!!! They beat the shit out of each other on stage, and it's f-ing great. I kinda lost track of my point but I'm just sayin that it's society that WANTS to hear and see thin, and as long as they do, MTV, Def Jam, and Roadrunner will continue to make it! They have to, it is a smart business move. JUN JUNT ::tryin to build a prison:: JUN JUNT ::tryin to build a prison::  aka " Little Norton"Proud graduate of Austin U "Yea, my parents having sex looks like 2 pigs fighting over a Milk Dud" | ||||
| GonzoStyle | posted on 09-28-2001 @ 12:33 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | quote: I was so feeling you till 3rd Base, lol And lets not forget two pioneers LL Cool J & Kurtis Blow. "For all we have and are, for all our children's fate, stand up and take the war, the Hun is at the gate!" --- Rudyard Kipling She-Mail Me Here | ||||
| CriticsLoveSnatch i know better than to ask for a status from you mean ol' mods I shall call him mini-FTL | posted on 09-28-2001 @ 12:36 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | bungle you forgot one - The Roots great hip hip and they :gasp: play instruments! i saw them live over the summer they were unbelievable  and thinking's just too much to ask and you're measuring your minutes by a clock thats blinking eights | ||||
| short hills mall | posted on 09-30-2001 @ 10:44 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | quote: Ever notice that black people name their kids after Chevrolets, German cars and things you buy in the drug store? Examples: (Imagine a big black Moma waving her hand in your face, screaming. For examples 1&2) 1. "Nyquil! Get your black ass in here now!!" 2. "Chevette, How many times have I told you girl, I need my props!" 3. How many girls do you know named Porche and Mercedes? Funniest story I ever heard was of a mother who named her twin boys Orangejello and Lemonjello (accent on the Lem). Yes that is right orange jello and lemon jello. Doesn't anyone name their kids Jeff, Dottie, Ralph or Mary anymore? 
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| Lent Black Rock Coalition Do you have a basketball in your car? | posted on 09-30-2001 @ 11:16 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: May. 00 | quote: Wasn't this part of a HBO def comedy jam bit? I remember that one. LET'S GO RED STORM! St.Johns U. '04 | ||||
| IrishAlkey Chucky Official OA.com Homo CUNT ROCKETTE Look who's laughing now, fuckers!!! Is It In Yet? JYD-4-LIFE [Sarcasm]Subzero316 fan since day one!!1!![/Sarcasm] "my mod powers are on temporary hiatus" This status is sponsored by: P®oJë©T M@¥hέm | posted on 10-01-2001 @ 1:26 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Aug. 01 | quote: Yeah, I don't know about you, but I think there should be alot more hot ass bitches named Dottie running around... | ||||
| short hills mall | posted on 10-01-2001 @ 4:08 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | quote: I must admit. I reached way back into the memory banks for that one. I saw that on David Letterman back when he was on NBC. I can't even remember who the comedian was but I pissed myself when he said "Nyquil! Quit jumpin' on that couch!" Jesus that must have been 1984 or 1985:):):)
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