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TeenWeek
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posted on 09-26-2001 @ 9:02 AM      
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If you don't love the flag, GET THE FUCK OUT OUT OF THE COUNTRY!!! This teacher should be strapped to the first bomb that hits Afghanistan.

Teacher Accused of Burning Flag in Classroom

Jennifer Mack
A Sacramento elementary school teacher is under fire for allegedly burning an American flag in front of his students.

About 30 6th graders at Sacramento's North Avenue Elementary apparently watched as their teacher burned part of the flag. Students say he asked them to keep quiet, but one student later told the school principal.

School officials say they are concerned about the incident, but refuse to speculate on the teacher's motives.

"There's a fine line between sort of getting across your own personal views in a classroom, versus providing students with an educational background," said District Superintendent Carl Mack, Jr.

The teacher is now on paid administrative leave. A school board meeting is scheduled for Tuesday night so parents can discuss their concerns.





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posted on 09-26-2001 @ 9:39 AM      
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quote:

The teacher is now on paid administrative leave.


Fuk paid leave!!! They should take his annual salary and donate it to the Red Cross for the victims. Sorry, but if you're living in this country right now, you're free to have your own opinions but you better damn well keep them to yourself if they aren't pro-American...that's just how I feel and if I'm wrong, boo-fukin-hoo.


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kindredbabe
posted on 09-26-2001 @ 11:50 AM      
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Registered: Aug. 01
Once again, my o-so lovely town is in the news...According to the news this morning, a few parents went directly to the District Offices when they heard of the incident from their children.

quote:

Teacher Allegedly Burns Flag In Classroom
District Officials Meet To Decide Possible Discipline

SACRAMENTO -- A sixth-grade teacher has been put on administrative leave from a Del Paso Heights school for allegedly burning part of an American flag in a classroom one week after the recent terrorist attacks.

Cory Clift is accused of burning the corner of a flag with a lighter, school district superintendent Carl Mack Jr. said.

District officials made a decision on the teacher's fate Tuesday night, but, per district policy, the results were not made available.

"Generally, in my past history, the steps have ranged from any disciplinary action that I feel is appropriate all the way to termination," Mack said.

Clift, a second-year teacher, also allegedly said some "inflammatory" statements, according to Mack, including, "I can't burn it all because it's illegal."

Clift was disciplined previously by the district for putting a student in a closet as punishment, KCRA 3 reported.

Clift has been put on administrative leave with pay pending the decision by the district, Mack said.

"This flag has been up on everybody's car, their house, to represent patriotism," parent Sonny Tupuanay said. "For (him) to do this ... I don't know."

About 30 students witnessed the alleged burning, officials said, but most didn't report the incident because they like the teacher.



Reign
posted on 09-26-2001 @ 12:32 PM      
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F'en moron, fire his ass.


spitfire421
posted on 09-26-2001 @ 12:56 PM      
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Fuck the fucking fuckers! Don't just fire them, kick them out of the country...send them to Afghanistan and see how they like living under the Taliban regime. They are just as bad as the fuckers who were cheering in the street in Palestine over the acts of terrorism....

Kindred, that teacher did that in front of 2nd graders!!! Ponderous!


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TeenWeek
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posted on 09-26-2001 @ 1:23 PM      
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6th grade,but i agree get him the hell ou t of the country

WookiePoolParty
posted on 09-26-2001 @ 1:34 PM      
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Wouldn't it be unfortunate irony if he was trying to prove to his students how great America is by showing that he can burn the flag and not even get in trouble for it... "Freedom of expression, class, that's why you should love the USA!"


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TeenWeek
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posted on 09-26-2001 @ 1:39 PM      
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wookie, i see your point but in time of terrorism in our country, when patriotism it at an alltime high, that makes him an idiot.

Everyone is on pins and needles now. You are either for this country or you are against it. Even in times of peace, if you disrepect the flag by spitting on it or burning it or ripping to shreds, you do not belong in this country.

I am so sick and tired of this freedom of speech bullshit. There is freedom of speech, but you don't yell fire in a crowded movie theater.

This guy deserves whatever is coming to him.

WookiePoolParty
posted on 09-26-2001 @ 1:49 PM      
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I absolutely agree that this guy's an idiot, at best. This would not be someone I'd spend time with socially. And I for one feel that if you're priveleged enough to be in this country you should never even want to burn a flag and can't imagine the chain of logic that would lead you to do it.
But there's no such thing as freedom of speech bullshit. It's all we have that makes us better than the rest. He shouldn't lose his job over this. On the other hand, if you want to go after the guy for fire code violations...



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posted on 09-26-2001 @ 2:03 PM      
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quote:

He shouldn't lose his job over this.


I wanna yell at you Wookie, but I'm havin a good time in Becky's thread right now...I'll be back later cause I know my fellow patriots will come marching once they read this.


Freedom is worth fighting for.


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WookiePoolParty
posted on 09-26-2001 @ 2:46 PM      
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Hey look, I never said this guy is a patriot. Not even close. And you'd never catch me burning a flag- hell, at the Mets game Friday night, I picked someone else's flag up off the floor b/c it's not supposed to be there!
But, he's allowed to be an asshole.

You're misreading my statement as an agreement with this guy; it's not.


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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 09-26-2001 @ 4:01 PM      
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quote:

They are just as bad as the fuckers who were cheering in the street in Palestine over the acts of terrorism....


That was proven to be from 1991. Not on September 11th.

And I agree with Wookie. You people talk about how great this country is then want a guy fired for exercising his rights that you purport is undeniable to everyone.



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WookiePoolParty
posted on 09-26-2001 @ 4:11 PM      
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AM- You may want to double check on that. NBC ran a story Monday(?) about post-WTC hoaxes and the reporter said that Reuters confirmed that the footage was indeed real and shot 9/11/01.

As for you agreeing with me, that may be a first! :-)


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posted on 09-26-2001 @ 4:41 PM      
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quote:

You people talk about how great this country is then want a guy fired for exercising his rights that you purport is undeniable to everyone.


AM, I pretty much always see eye to eye w/ you , but don't you think that there are just some things at certain times that shouldn't be tolerated? We do have laws. Could you make the argument that our laws are inhibiting our ability as a people to act freely? Not being a dick, just curious as to what your opinions are. Oh shit...now I'm gonna learn again!!! LoL



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posted on 09-26-2001 @ 4:41 PM      
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two...TWO posts!!!!!

Freedom is worth fighting for.


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This message was edited by IrishAlkey on 9-26-01 @ 4:47 PM
adolescentmasturbator
posted on 09-26-2001 @ 4:49 PM      
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I'm not sure there are a lot of conflicting reports I'll research it wookie.

quote:

but don't you think that there are just some things at certain times that shouldn't be tolerated?


Not when it comes to civil liberties. I personally wouldn't burn a flag. However if it was outlawed and make a offense I would be the first person you see burning a flag. Because all that flag may represent to you will become just a myth. Then it will become a viable form of civil disobedience, not just some burning to piss people off.



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posted on 09-26-2001 @ 8:20 PM      
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Ok, I've come to two, TWO conclusions for these two Bleeding heart liberal cocksuckers, or what they call teachers...

Either deport them to another country where they could get jailed or executed for burning their flag...

OR

Strap them to a 2000lb. Dambuster arm the bombs onto an F-16 and watch them get dropped on a unsuspecting bridge.




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Spuds_Buckley
posted on 09-26-2001 @ 9:10 PM      
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quote:

F'en moron, fire his ass


thanks to that other great American Institution known as the Union, that's become rather difficult

Is he a moron yes...he burned a symbol of freedom that people gave their blood and lives just so he could do such an act.


I hope he tells us to burn our pants...these things are driving me nuts! Hold on there maestro, there's a "New" Mexico?
GonzoStyle
posted on 09-26-2001 @ 10:42 PM      
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Hey freedom of speech to a point, I can't go around sayin i wanna kill the president and to me burning the flag is like burning the constitution. You are burning the very fabric of liberty and freedom, literally. You do NOT have the right to burn the flag. You don't like it here? Move to afghanistan, see how you like it there try burning the afghan flag there. I know we have the freedoms to speak out on our dislikes of our goverment but urning the flag is just despicable.


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kindredbabe
posted on 09-26-2001 @ 10:50 PM      
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quote:

Is he a moron yes...he burned a symbol of freedom that people gave their blood and lives just so he could do such an act

Not only that, but he did this in front of his classroom of children!!! I don't care if you want to burn the flag or not, but do not do it in front of young, impressionable children. This teacher is their role model, someone they look up to and from what I read, very well liked. If he had such a strong urge to burn our flag, he should have chosen somewhere else to do it.

GonzoStyle
posted on 09-26-2001 @ 10:53 PM      
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quote:

If he had such a strong urge to burn our flag, he should have chosen somewhere else to do it.



If he felt so strongly, wrap the falg around your body then burn it, if you wanna make a point.


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Spork
posted on 09-26-2001 @ 11:05 PM      
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Well because CNN asked me to...

quote:

CNN statement about false claim it used old video
Brazilian university statement says no fact to original claim

September 20, 2001 Posted: 4:02 PM EDT (2002 GMT)

(CNN asks that you copy and e-mail this statement to whomever asks about it.)

There is absolutely no truth to the information that is now distributed on the Internet that CNN used 10-year-old video when showing the celebrating of some Palestinians in East Jerusalem after the terror attacks in the U.S. The video was shot that day by a Reuters camera crew. CNN is a client of Reuters and like other clients, received the video and broadcast it. Reuters officials have publicly made the facts clear as well.

The allegation is false. The source of the allegation has withdrawn it and apologized. It was started by a Brazilian student who now says he immediately posted a correction once he knew the information was not true. This is the statement by his university -- UNICAMP -- Universidad Estatal de Campinas-Brasil.

Again, please read this -- and copy it -- and send it to anyone you know who may have the false information. Thank you.

OFFICIAL STATEMENT by Universidad de Campinas-Brasil
17/09/01


UNICAMP (Universidad Estatal de Campinas-Brasil) would like to announce that it has no knowledge of a videotape from 1991, whose images supposedly aired on CNN showing Palestinians celebrating the terrorist attacks in the U.S. The tape was supposedly from 1991, and there were rumors that the images were passed off as current.

This information was later denied, as soon as it proved false, by Márcio A. V. Carvalho, a student at UNICAMP. He approached the administration today, 17.09.2001, to clarify the following:

-- the information he got, verbally, was that a professor from another institution (not from UNICAMP) had the tape;

-- he sent the information to a discussion group e-mail list;

-- many people from this list were interested in the subject and requested more details;

-- he again contacted the person who first gave him the information and the person denied having the tape;

-- the student immediately sent out a note clarifying what happened to the people from his e-mail list.

The original message, however, was distributed all over the world, often with many distortions, including a falsified by-line article from the student. He affirms that a hacker attacked his domain. Several E-mails have been sent on his behalf and those dating from 15.09.2001 should be ignored.

Among the distortions is the fact that UNICAMP would be analyzing the tape, which is absolutely false. The administration considers this alert definitive and will be careful to avoid new rumors.





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WookiePoolParty
posted on 09-27-2001 @ 12:25 AM      
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quote:

but don't you think that there are just some things at certain times that shouldn't be tolerated?

Yep, I agree.
Just making a distinction between what we're intolerant of morally and legally.


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GonzoStyle
posted on 09-27-2001 @ 12:52 AM      
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quote:

Yep, I agree.
Just making a distinction between what we're intolerant of morally and legally.



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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 09-27-2001 @ 9:10 AM      
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quote:

I am so sick and tired of this freedom of speech bullshit. There is freedom of speech, but you don't yell fire in a crowded movie theater.


That's because it could cause physical harm to someone. Speech shouldn't be outlawed because it's deemed offensive to you. That makes you just like the PC crowd.



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