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Dean Douglas
posted on 03-09-2001 @ 4:40 PM      
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Do we really have to read that old english shit?
It's 2001! That language doesn't make a bit of sense! FU and I'm glad your dead.

white shorts
posted on 03-09-2001 @ 4:44 PM      
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reading Shakespeare isn't the worst thing in the world, and it can even be interesting if you open your mind to something new.

Shakespeare actually wrote in modern english rather than old english, and much of his topics are still relevant, even in 2001.






This message was edited by white shorts on 3-9-01 @ 5:25 PM
GonzoStyle
posted on 03-09-2001 @ 4:48 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

Do we really have to read that old english shit?
It's 2001! That language doesn't make a bit of sense! FU and I'm glad your dead.



The ignorance of our youth will be our downfall. To know your future you must first learn the past. Shakespeare sucks why, not enough pictures?


Do you know how pale & wanton thrillful
comes death on a strange hour unannounced,
unplanned for like a scaring over-friendly
guest you've brought to bed
Death makes angels of us all
& gives us wings where we had shoulders
smooth as raven's claws
--Jim Morrison (An American Prayer)

Dean Douglas
posted on 03-09-2001 @ 4:49 PM      
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But having to read it without anybody explaining what the F it means totally sucks.
white shorts
posted on 03-09-2001 @ 4:50 PM      
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don't get me wrong, i hate school as much as the next guy, but there are much worse things to have to read than Shakespeare.

Shakespeare is actually one of my favorite things to read in english class.




This message was edited by white shorts on 3-9-01 @ 4:55 PM
Dean Douglas
posted on 03-09-2001 @ 4:52 PM      
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Registered: Mar. 01
Don't get me wrong I like books. To Kill a Mockingbird was one of the greatest books I have ever read but I think that Shakespeare is too dated and too confusing and teachers pressuring you to understand that stuff infuriates me.
GonzoStyle
posted on 03-09-2001 @ 4:58 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

But having to read it without anybody explaining what the F it means totally sucks.



I understand dean no one said it was easy. But thats the whole point of learning if everyone gave you the easy answers what would be the point? It would be trivial, no one gives you the answers in the real world.


Do you know how pale & wanton thrillful
comes death on a strange hour unannounced,
unplanned for like a scaring over-friendly
guest you've brought to bed
Death makes angels of us all
& gives us wings where we had shoulders
smooth as raven's claws
--Jim Morrison (An American Prayer)

Fez
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posted on 03-09-2001 @ 5:03 PM      
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Dean...does the word "DEVRY" mean anything to you?

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Mi1o Yambag
posted on 03-09-2001 @ 5:22 PM      
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Too dated dean!? Shakespeare's works are so relevent to today's society and his plays are some of the best reads ever! This is truly whats wrong with kids today...they have no respect for the classics.

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This message was edited by Mi1o Yambag on 3-9-01 @ 5:24 PM
darthziggy
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posted on 03-09-2001 @ 5:39 PM      
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i actually enjoyed some of shakespeare's stuff. this year we read king lear, and it wuz ok. if you want a really funny-ass book that has very little to do w/ this conversation:
The Golden Globe, by John Varley. hysterical. a futuristic shakespearean actor who is wanted for murder and stuff and travels through space and shit. not a big sci-fi novel, tho it does fall in the genre. very good read tho. :)


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posted on 03-09-2001 @ 6:34 PM      
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Someone "doth protesteth too much!"

I used to be the same way, until i read Hamlet, even though it's a total rip off an old legend "Amleth" it is one of the greatest tales ever written.


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GonzoStyle
posted on 03-09-2001 @ 6:39 PM      
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well froy there was an actual hamlet and shakespeare did a few biographies like henry the viii, julius ceaser, and richard the third.

But all books can be traced back to another. I agree hamlet is a great book. My favorite is macbeth actually, and othello because of Iago one of the greatest villians in literary history. But othello is actually an interacial tale of romeo and juliet when you think of it.


Do you know how pale & wanton thrillful
comes death on a strange hour unannounced,
unplanned for like a scaring over-friendly
guest you've brought to bed
Death makes angels of us all
& gives us wings where we had shoulders
smooth as raven's claws
--Jim Morrison (An American Prayer)

Mi1o Yambag
posted on 03-09-2001 @ 9:35 PM      
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Yeah, Hamlet's one of my favorites too. And I just started on Henry IV. Hopefully that'll be pretty good too.


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Inappropriate Belle
posted on 03-11-2001 @ 2:05 AM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
People might think this is wierd, but Shakespeare is a lot like rap. They both rely heavily on language that has both rhythm and rhyme. Also, just like a lot of rappers today, Shakespeare frequently made up words which are still used today. His themes are universal because they are not complicated. Read the text slowly, skip words that have no meaning to you, and try to paraphrase what you're reading. It is english after all.



This message was edited by Inappropriate Belle on 3-11-01 @ 2:13 AM
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posted on 03-11-2001 @ 2:53 AM      
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O Mistress Mine


O Mistress Mine, where are you roaming?
O, stay and hear; your true love's coming.
That can sing both high and low:
Trip no further, pretty sweeting;
Journeys end in lovers meeting,
Every wise man's son doth know.

What is love? 'Tis not hereafter;
Present mirth hath present laughter;
What's to come is still unsure:
In delay there lies not plenty;
Then, come kiss me, sweet and twenty,
Youth's a stuff will not endure.


Tell me that sucks. I dare you!

Shakespeare rules!



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This message was edited by Buttmunch on 3-11-01 @ 2:54 AM
bluetarp
posted on 03-11-2001 @ 3:13 AM      
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Actually, I own a number of the movies. Some of the ones Kenneth Branagh has made/starred in/directed, tend to be easier to watch than some of the high falootin classical acting. I don't read much Shakespere, but the little I have read was enhanced by seeing it performed. Much ado about nothing, and Othello are two of my favorites, but I am actually just starting to get into them.

GonzoStyle
posted on 03-11-2001 @ 3:41 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

Shakespeare is a lot like rap



so if he were alive today he would have the bling bling and the ice while sippin his gin and juices and smackin up his hoes while tappin the ass on a bitch and chillin in his benz and selling out a lost art for the g's?


Do you know how pale & wanton thrillful
comes death on a strange hour unannounced,
unplanned for like a scaring over-friendly
guest you've brought to bed
Death makes angels of us all
& gives us wings where we had shoulders
smooth as raven's claws
--Jim Morrison (An American Prayer)

menudointhemorning
posted on 03-11-2001 @ 7:56 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Its kinda if you dont read the stuff and learn, You might be saying in your career "Welcome to McDonalds, May I take your order."

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posted on 03-11-2001 @ 2:10 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Maybe you should consider that Shakespare wrote the way he did just to fuck with you. Millions of people love the Bard's work, but you find it too "hard" to understand. Guess what-anything that's really worth it is not easy!

But don't worry, High School will be over for you soon, and you can get your career started by learning the correct ratio of water to Spic-n-Span.




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Inappropriate Belle
posted on 03-11-2001 @ 2:24 PM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
quote:

so if he were alive today he would have the bling bling and the ice while sippin his gin and juices and smackin up his hoes while tappin the ass on a bitch and chillin in his benz and selling out a lost art for the g's?


There is no doubt in my mind Gonzo... that's EXACTLY what would happen, and pretty much did happen. Plus, all his poems would feature all the other popular poets of the time and would dis on all the poets from the west side of Stratford on Avon.

Buttmunch.... Sonnet #29....check it out.

"Lord, what fools these mortals be."



This message was edited by Inappropriate Belle on 3-11-01 @ 2:31 PM
Fez
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posted on 03-11-2001 @ 2:39 PM      
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'Action is eloquence' - William Shakespeare

'Oh, thou hast a damnable iteration, and art indeed able to corrupt a saint. Thou hast done much harm upon me Hal, God forgive thee for it. Before I knew thee Hal, I knew nothing, and now am I, if a man should speak truly, little better than one of the wicked.' - William Shakespeare

'Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt.' -William Shakespeare

Those are a few of my favs

This message was edited by Fez on 3-11-01 @ 2:42 PM
Buttmunch
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posted on 03-11-2001 @ 3:01 PM      
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Sonnets of William Shakespeare

Sonnet 29

XXIX.
When, in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state
And trouble deal heaven with my bootless cries
And look upon myself and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possess'd,
Desiring this man's art and that man's scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least;
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
Like to the lark at break of day arising
From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven's gate;
For thy sweet love remember'd such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with kings.





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Fez
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posted on 03-11-2001 @ 3:37 PM      
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Shakespeare's last sonnet



The other two, slight air and purging fire,
Are both with thee, wherever I abide;
The first my thought, the other my desire,
These present-absent with swift motion slide.
For when these quicker elements are gone
In tender embassy of love to thee,
My life, being made of four, with two alone
Sinks down to death, oppress'd with melancholy;
Until life's composition be recured
By those swift messengers return'd from thee,
Who even but now come back again, assured
Of thy fair health, recounting it to me:
This told, I joy; but then no longer glad,
I send them back again, and straight grow sad.


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posted on 03-11-2001 @ 5:16 PM      
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I avoided this thread only because, the only thing I ever passed in my HS english class was Shakespeare. The plays are so thought out and the language is not that hard to figure out once you get involved in the story line. Fav. Shakespeare is Taming of the Shrew


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posted on 03-11-2001 @ 5:23 PM      
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Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow, creeps in this petty pace from day to day to the last syllable of recorded time, 'til all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death. Out, out brief candle, life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

At first he seems hard to understand, but if you really read it, it is actually quite simple. I am a big fan of Macbeth myself.


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