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Flock of Moosen
OA.com's Bodyguard
Anger problem?
What anger problem?
I hate the fucking mud!
USA
posted on 07-12-2002 @ 9:01 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Jan. 01
Before I begin, I just want to say I thought long and hard before doing this. I really didn't want to say anything, but knowing my temper if it happened a 3rd time, I may go off and not be as civil as I hope to be now.

Ever since I've been on this board, especially in the early days there always seemed to be a mod unity, a brotherhood (and a sister :-D ) if you will. Mods would back each other whether they agreed with them or not. If there was ever a problem, it would be handled either in e-mail, IMs or in BTS, but never in public for everyone to see. Sure, there have been times when mods went head to head in public threads, but it was far and few in between. Lately though that doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe when the board changed, the mods and their attitudes changed as well. I really can't answer that since I haven't been a mod that long.

That leads me to the reason why I started this thread, in BTS mind you. Moron, you know I love ya like a brother. You were one of the first people here I ever talked to and one of the first that actually took the time to talk to me and not blow me off. That meant more to me than you'll ever know buddy. Lately though it seems like you've got this personal vendetta against me and frankly I'm getting tired of it being aired in public and me being made to look like an asshole.

The 1st time was when I banned Fast Freddy for knowingly and numerously breaking the rules set forth in the FAQ. Unlike your public bashing of me in a Junkyard thread (This is a Crock of Moosen), I IM'd you privately to talk about it. You told me why you did so and even though I was angry you chose to do it in public, I totally understood. If I was getting slammed with IMs asking "What for?" and "Why not?" like you did, I might have done the same thing. Who knows, but as far as I was concerned, it was water under the bridge. After that we had the softball game, everyone had a great time and I thought we had moved on.

That leads me to yesterday and the 2nd incident. I decided to lock the FU to Katylina because frankly it was just full of immaturity and board drama like I once again told you in IMs. It went on for over a week with no end in sight so I made a judgement call and ended it. As far as I'm concerned there is no need for that bullshit here. As we all know, the board is in bad shape and that crap is the last thing we need. You then signed on and chose to unlock the thread and make a comment to make both FTL and myself look like complete idiots. Now granted FTL unlocked it as well to add one last thing, but at least he wasn't sarcastically bashing another mod and he promptly locked it again. You on the other hand unlocked it and left it unlocked for all the world to see Flock being made to look like an asshole. To add insult to injury, and if I'm wrong about this I sincerely apologize, you then gave it a 5 star rating to really rub it in. How would you like to be made to look like an idiot in front of people you consider friends? Let me tell you, it doesn't feel good.

Now, I know you feel Alkey should be a mod. Hell, at Bar 9 one night you actually came out and said you thought he should have been made one over me and would make a better one. Talk about really making someone feel good. I was personally offended by that more than you know, but once again I let it slide. Granted, I think Alkey's a great guy and I've always been a modest person, but in this case I have to say that's bullshit. In no way would I ever consider him to be a better candidate for modship than me. Why, because he has a lot of posts and is here a lot? A bunch of people have a lot of posts and are here a lot. That doesn't mean they should all be mods too. Does anyone remember the old sayings around here "Think before you post" and "Quality over quantity"? What has he actually brought to the board, besides blind followers, Spoo, tons of posts with no substance, & destroying a once great Fight Club/Junkyard with crap upon crap upon crap? This is a good mod candidate in your opinion?

The only reason I included this about Alkey is not to bash him. I truly do like him and consider him a friend. I think though that deep down you resent that I was made a mod over him like I explained in the previous paragraph and that's why you're on my case about petty crap. If this isn't the case, then I would really like to know why the sudden problem with me. If there is no problem and you didn't realize you were doing this, then maybe this thread will be a wake up call. Now, I'm asking nicely, please do not do it again because I do not appreciate being punked out and made to look like a fucking fool. Thank you very much for your time.





This message was edited by Flock of Moosen on 7-12-02 @ 9:14 PM
FollowThisLogic
Nay. We are but men. ROCK.
The man with the plan.
posted on 07-12-2002 @ 9:39 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
I have to say, any one of us second-guessing another in the public forum is VERY bad practice. Like Flock said in the beginning, the mods would stand up for each other's decisions, not based on their personal take on the situation, and I think we should be no different.

And if any one of you honestly think that this stupid little bumper to "admin" has made me think I have any control over you guys or any say in what goes on here then first of all, you should know better, and second, fuck you. I'm not different from anyone else, and I certainly have no more power now than I did before. Anything I can do now, I could do then, on the technical end of things.

Click here if you're bored enough to email me.
...nobody else in the whole wide world


makes me feel this way


nobody else in the whole wide world


takes my breath away


makes me feel so strange inside


dazed, confused, and starry-eyed


i couldn't love you more


makes me feel the wrong way round


inside out and upside-down


i couldn't love you more...





New AIM, y'know.
SLASH
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posted on 07-12-2002 @ 11:24 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Aug. 00
This is starting to get old. It should be self understood.

Oh, wha'e'er, Nimda.



AIM: SmarterChild

Write To Me Here

I think it all started with the Declaration of Independence -- the idea that we had the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit is what took America from the revolution to the computer age in 200 years. But the progress has come at a price. The obvious being the people that were exploited to make it possible; the not so obvious being us, the first group of people that were given no obvious frontiers to conquer. We hear stories about the good old days that don't seem to apply anymore. It's a generation gap that leaves us without role models. But the bright side is that without role models, there are no roles. Maybe that's what the 60s were all about -- getting rid of the roles. But what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, the choices become overwhelming. Sometimes it just makes everything feel hopeless. So we destroy our bodies in the search of an ideal. Try to salvage relationships that don't work. We feel we must do something, instead of doing something that we feel. It is the prison of self-imposed momentum, and the sad part is that we get used to it. It reminds me of a song I heard the other day. It's called "The Going Nowhere Fast." But the people I have met here have shown me another side of Nowhere. They've pointed out the beautiful irony that stagnation makes it easy to stop and smell the roses, if we just let it. What would we be if we had nothing to rebel against? Well we could finally be ourselves, the first group of people who stopped looking for the answers long enough to appreciate the questions. And all we have to do is to make our own Declaration of Independence. We can embrace the right to life and liberty by simply realizing that happiness exists -- not to pursue, but to accept. After that the only challenge would be to make sure with the rest of our lives that we weren't just another fad. I don't know, it's an idea. What do you think?



Froy
King Shit
*board owner*

posted on 07-13-2002 @ 11:53 AM      
O&A Board Veteran
Registered: Feb. 01
When there is some unity of thought, purpose, and feeling, then these things will not occur anymore.

I have an idea of what needs to be done, but I am not sure if it will change things or not.


I believe in the Faith... that can save me.
I believe in the hope and I pray...
That someday it may raise me... above these badlands

Over The Limit
FNMoron
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posted on 07-13-2002 @ 12:48 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
Dear Mr. Moosen.... first off, apologies to you if any of my actions or words caused you grief. That is not what i intended. I do still consider myself a friend of you (and the Mrs.) and I'm sorry if you feel we have some kind of problem between us. Personally, I have no problem with you, but I will say that there has been a couple of occasions that I didn't really agree with your Moderating decisions. Now, I will try to address your statements.

The Fast Freddy banning - well, sorry... i know he was a pain in the ass and not many people (if any) liked him. I also know he was "warned" about his behavior, but still (and no offense meant by this) I think it was a Crock. There has been many more problem posters that were either overlooked or ignored for doing similar things. I mean, what exactly did he do that was so wrong? Draggin up old threads? ...because that's about the only thing I saw that he was doing. And personally, I don't really see a problem with that. If old threads weren't meant to be brought up (whether topical or not) then there should be some sort of time limit on when they can be resurrected... perhaps after a thread falls to page 5 (or 10...whatever) it should be automatically locked to avoid this from happening.
As far as my "Crock of Moosen" statement... hey, sorry you took it as a personal jab, but that was how i felt, and it was meant as a reply to the dozen or so people that kept IM-ing me (and posting about) asking what happened to Fast Freddy. It was not intended to be a personal stab at you.

OK... on to incident #2... the FU Katylina thread.... well, sorry again if you took it as a personal lashing towards you. It wasn't meant that way. But I have to ask, why was it locked to begin with? Because people were acting "immature"? C'mon Tom... really... like I said to you in IM about this. If we (mods) locked threads because people were fighting with one another or being childish, there wouldn't be too many open threads to post replies in. There was no real problems in that thread as far as I could see. It was obvious that other Mods had seen it (see BM's post on Page 6 where he discusses the possibility of locking the thread) and no one else thought it was in real need of being locked. I'm aware that there is some sort of relationship between Froy & Katylina and he had every oppurtunity to lock, delete whatever...but he didn't. The fact that it went to 7+ pages of people bickering like 8 year olds was somewhat amusing to me. Sorry you didn't see the funney the same way I did.

Now to address your last statement:
quote:

Now, I know you feel Alkey should be a mod. Hell, at Bar 9 one night you actually came out and said you thought he should have been made one over me and would make a better one.
Ok... I don't really recall ever saying that he would make a better Mod than you (or anyone for that matter) but I will be completely honest and say, I still do think that Alkey would make a fine moderator. Whether he would be better than you (or anyone) is just ludicris. What would make one mod better than another...nothing... well, other than that Uber-Geek, FTL we're all kinda useless. No offense meant to any of my fellow Mods, but seriously... I'm not here to get into a battle of wits with anyone. It's pointless. I consider all of you to be capable, intelligent people (yes, even you Face ;) ) and am happy to be a part of this group. I know that all of us, at one point or another, have not agreed with another Mods decision about something. Hell, I'm still not happy with the way Froy handled the Kid Afrika situation, but that's old news and I won't rehash it.

My point to all this dribble is that I have nothing personal against you, Flock. Never have & probably (hopefully) never will. Sorry if you saw my actions as personal shots at you or your Moderating skills.

PS: oh...and as far as Mod unity being dead... hahaha... it had to be alive at one point first, right? :-D

That being said, I hope I was able to answer some of your inquiries. If you have any other situations in which you (or anyone else) feel we need to discuss, you all know how to reach me thru AIM, or you can post about it back here....





Flock of Moosen
OA.com's Bodyguard
Anger problem?
What anger problem?
I hate the fucking mud!
USA
posted on 07-13-2002 @ 1:16 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

Dear Mr. Moosen.... first off, apologies to you if any of my actions or words caused you grief. That is not what i intended.

First off on my end, no apologies needed man. I just wanted to make you aware of how I felt and what it makes me look like to all the other members.

quote:

I do still consider myself a friend of you (and the Mrs.) and I'm sorry if you feel we have some kind of problem between us. Personally, I have no problem with you, but I will say that there has been a couple of occasions that I didn't really agree with your Moderating decisions.

To be honest with ya, I don't have a problem with you. Sure, I didn't like publicly being made to look like a fool, but as a person I still consider you a friend as well. As for the not agreeing with some of my mod decisions all I have to say is this, what kind of fucking world would this be if we all agreed with everything other people do. I don't expect everyone to agree with what I do and I sure as hell don't expect to agree with everything other people do. I'm totally cool with that.

quote:

What would make one mod better than another...nothing... well, other than that Uber-Geek, FTL we're all kinda useless.

Ahh, don't kid yourself, he's useless too. He doesn't know shit about coding. ;)

I'm glad were cool man and you haven't been taking pot shots at me because you felt one person should have been made a mod over me. It's just lately it's felt that way.
I'll talk to ya soon bud.



FNMoron
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posted on 07-13-2002 @ 1:18 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
see... that's what happened FOM.... you became an emotional pussy once you got your Mod papers ;)

Tito... get me a tissue :-D





FollowThisLogic
Nay. We are but men. ROCK.
The man with the plan.
posted on 07-13-2002 @ 9:58 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
quote:

well, other than that Uber-Geek, FTL we're all kinda useless.

Hey, screw you, I'm useless too. :-D

I think the major thing here isn't that we disagree, that's gonna happen... but I just don't think we should SHOW it outside of BTS. We don't have to agree with each other's decisions, but we also shouldn't speak out in public against other mods, i.e. Crock of Moosen.

Click here if you're bored enough to email me.
...nobody else in the whole wide world


makes me feel this way


nobody else in the whole wide world


takes my breath away


makes me feel so strange inside


dazed, confused, and starry-eyed


i couldn't love you more


makes me feel the wrong way round


inside out and upside-down


i couldn't love you more...





New AIM, y'know.
SLASH
Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC
STRIKE 3
(I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans)
posted on 07-13-2002 @ 10:40 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Aug. 00
quote:

I think the major thing here isn't that we disagree, that's gonna happen... but I just don't think we should SHOW it outside of BTS. We don't have to agree with each other's decisions, but we also shouldn't speak out in public against other mods, i.e. Crock of Moosen.


quote:

It should be self understood.


That's why we have BTS, email and IM. If a name is on a thread (flagged) as a locked thread, just contact that person through one of those three ways and discuss your disapproval...



AIM: SmarterChild

Write To Me Here

I think it all started with the Declaration of Independence -- the idea that we had the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit is what took America from the revolution to the computer age in 200 years. But the progress has come at a price. The obvious being the people that were exploited to make it possible; the not so obvious being us, the first group of people that were given no obvious frontiers to conquer. We hear stories about the good old days that don't seem to apply anymore. It's a generation gap that leaves us without role models. But the bright side is that without role models, there are no roles. Maybe that's what the 60s were all about -- getting rid of the roles. But what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, the choices become overwhelming. Sometimes it just makes everything feel hopeless. So we destroy our bodies in the search of an ideal. Try to salvage relationships that don't work. We feel we must do something, instead of doing something that we feel. It is the prison of self-imposed momentum, and the sad part is that we get used to it. It reminds me of a song I heard the other day. It's called "The Going Nowhere Fast." But the people I have met here have shown me another side of Nowhere. They've pointed out the beautiful irony that stagnation makes it easy to stop and smell the roses, if we just let it. What would we be if we had nothing to rebel against? Well we could finally be ourselves, the first group of people who stopped looking for the answers long enough to appreciate the questions. And all we have to do is to make our own Declaration of Independence. We can embrace the right to life and liberty by simply realizing that happiness exists -- not to pursue, but to accept. After that the only challenge would be to make sure with the rest of our lives that we weren't just another fad. I don't know, it's an idea. What do you think?



This message was edited by SLASH on 7-13-02 @ 10:49 PM

FollowThisLogic
Nay. We are but men. ROCK.
The man with the plan.
posted on 07-13-2002 @ 10:58 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Oct. 00
Exactly.

And that reminds me, I'll have to work on making the thread tagging actually DO something.

I think I'll make that my task for Monday, trying to look busy at work.... when people don't know what you do, having code open on the screen really makes them think you're working hard...

Click here if you're bored enough to email me.
...nobody else in the whole wide world


makes me feel this way


nobody else in the whole wide world


takes my breath away


makes me feel so strange inside


dazed, confused, and starry-eyed


i couldn't love you more


makes me feel the wrong way round


inside out and upside-down


i couldn't love you more...





New AIM, y'know.


This message was edited by FollowThisLogic on 7-15-02 @ 10:13 AM



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