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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: Man who started fire in California is now charged with murder | ||||
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| New Fan | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 11:43 AM |    | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01  | The man in CA who started the fire is now accussed of murder because of 2 planes flying overhead that were trying to put the fire out collided and they died. For me this is a strech of the murder law. This guy may be a big piece of shit but The firemen are all there by choice. No one said if you dont go and put the fire out you will be punished. It was an accident. Thier deaths were a tradgedy but this guy being charged with murder for thier accident is just a bit much for me. What do you think? What is your opinion? Ill hang up now so i can hear myself on the radio  Forgotten but not gone(Im still here-God damn it) | ||||
| MaynardGKrebs | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 11:52 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jan. 01 | Nah, this guy SHOULD be charged with murder. Think about it, yes it was an accident. But if this fuck never started the fire, then they wouldnt have been there. Thus then no accident. You state that they are they by choice. Yes, this is true, but they're there to protect you tool. Remember? And anything we can do to protect them, should be done. Firefighters are completely underrated (no i'm not one, and don't personally know any either). But I'm glad they're there to do a job that I wouldn't want to do. It's a dangerous job, yes, but I think that ANYONE that starts a fire, and someone gets hurt in the fire, should be responsible.  | ||||
| Arthur Dent | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 11:53 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 00 | Murder charges will NEVER stick, but MANSLAUGHTER might. Murder means you INTENDED for people to die. The "degrees" refer to how much planning was invloved. Manslaughter means the death was accidental, but it was your fault, your actions, that caused it and it was preventable.  "When I was born I was so surprised I couldn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen A much wittier reply came to mind immediately after I clicked the 'Send' button. I have adopted VooDude. Room for one more. | ||||
| New Fan | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 11:56 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | Manyard You are correct sir in stating they are here to protect us and for that i am thankful. AD That is what i was thinking he should have been charged with I guess i should have stated that in the original post I too know what its like to be a tool(White Men Cant Jump) Forgotten but not gone(Im still here-God damn it) | ||||
| New Fan | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 11:56 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | Damn Mr. Dent, Where the hell do you come up with all of your stuff. You must read alot. You seem to know a little about everything Forgotten but not gone(Im still here-God damn it) | ||||
| New Fan | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 11:56 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | Sorry to but in but no im not teenweek or ikeaboy But god Damn it--Im still here lol Forgotten but not gone(Im still here-God damn it) | ||||
| WNEWs GIRL i don't have a mule but i have a cock Intercontinental Intergender Thumb Wrestling Champion CUNT ROCKETTE The new "third". AmyMohrBuddy One line in my sig is absolutely fucking disgusting, see if you can find it. | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 12:00 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Aug. 00 | teenweek..is that you? WHATEVER BEN -----------------------------------------------  "The best lessons in life are also the most painful" I love Danilo! Longest "Regular" Standing Member | ||||
| fbdlingfrg wow, my name looks odd without 5 lines of type below it in bold and purple and red G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Red Wings Captain Cecil JBA~Remove the Pick & Click NOW! | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 12:02 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote:cant be teenweek, because the two of them have had problems.but i havent seen ikea boy around lately...  i may be a little catholic boy, but i'm still HLJC 4 LIFE! | ||||
| hornygoatweed I've Got A Vagina With Teeth. G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Dragoon Battalion My friends call me Weed | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 12:02 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Sorry NewFan, but I gotta go against you. This asshole who started the fire should get the murder charge - even though as Dent said he'll probably get manslaughter. Most firemen that I know don't wake up every day and say "Hmmm, I can't wait to go put out some fires!". These guys put themselves on the line for people like us every day. Yes, they chose to do this kind of work as a career, but its a NOBLE choice. The planes colliding was an accident, sure - but they wouldn't have been there if this assfuck hadn't started the fire. There should be a law called "the Domino Effect" where you get charged based on the results of what you did - no matter how indirect the results are.  MDLax84 has decided to earn his degree in Goatweed University. If anyone sees him cheating on exams, let me know ASAP! Email me here or AIM me at Organic999 to apply for a seat - I have one left, and they usually fill fast. | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 12:05 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | Poor Anthony, I guess he didn't ask the neighbor for a hose this time. The narrator in Fight Club is the man we will be, Patrick Bateman in American Psycho is the man we want to be Eliza Dushku- Hotter Than Brittny | ||||
| Arthur Dent | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 12:06 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 00 | quote: Ever hear of the "Butterfly Effect" from Chaos Theory? A butterly flaps its wings in Australia in June and a typhoon hits Japan in September. ;) "When I was born I was so surprised I couldn't talk for a year and a half." - Gracie Allen A much wittier reply came to mind immediately after I clicked the 'Send' button. I have adopted VooDude. Room for one more. | ||||
| WNEWs GIRL i don't have a mule but i have a cock Intercontinental Intergender Thumb Wrestling Champion CUNT ROCKETTE The new "third". AmyMohrBuddy One line in my sig is absolutely fucking disgusting, see if you can find it. | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 12:06 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Aug. 00 | quote: obscure reference of the day WHATEVER BEN ----------------------------------------------- "The best lessons in life are also the most painful" I love Danilo! Longest "Regular" Standing Member | ||||
| Canweseeyourstuff | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 12:09 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Nice show reference ikea http://photos.yahoo.com/canweseeyourstuff | ||||
| FeelMyFunBags | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 12:09 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | He should be charged with manslaughter or maybe second degree murder. What exactly was he charged with? why do I say I'm fine when it's obvious I'm not? why's it so hard to tell you what I want? why can't you just read my mind? | ||||
| TylerDurden | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 12:33 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00 | quote: In a way, that's the rule. As long as there are no intervening events that break the "chain of causation." It doesn't matter if the defendant anticipated the results or not. I don't know the rules for California, but this guy may be guilty of a lesser degree of murder ("reckless indifference to an unjustifiably high risk to human life"), or more likely involuntary manslaughter (gross negligence resulting in death). In case you were wondering... Help me Jeebus! | ||||
| MashedPotatohead NIGGA PLEASE! All the bitches in here are crazy! | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 12:50 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: BZZZZZZ.....I try again, Do not pass GO, Do not collect $200 quote:  | ||||
| Banana_juice | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 12:54 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | you said that the firemen are all there by choice.. but arent most people there by choice when they get murdered. for instance, if someone goes to the store to get something and gets murdered in a hold-up..he is at that store by choice to by something.. i agree that the murder charge will not stick, but manslaughter will.  E-Mail Me special thanks to maynard and grumpy for the sig pic and the help posting it | ||||
| MashedPotatohead NIGGA PLEASE! All the bitches in here are crazy! | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 1:23 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: HUH - you are now blaming the victim for being at the wrong place at the wrong time. 1) Robbery/hold up = Felony 2) Homicide while in commission of a robbery/holdup/carjacking = Murder | ||||
| FeelMyFunBags | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 1:30 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Mashed...you're 100% right. I don't know if there is a law like this in California, but if someone dies as a result of another felony that you comitted it is definitely a murder. Not premeditated, but murder nonetheless. Manslaughter is unintentional - like if I wasn't really paying attention while driving and as a result I ran over and killed an old woman. I was negligent in not paying attention, but there was no intent on my part to either committ a crime or cause injury. Manslaughter is also a common plea bargain that people charged with murder take with the DAs because that is the only way the DA thinks that they will do any jail time. why do I say I'm fine when it's obvious I'm not? why's it so hard to tell you what I want? why can't you just read my mind? | ||||
| New Fan | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 2:13 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | No , I didnt mean for it to sound like the victems were at fault, And i can see why you thought that, but that wasnt what i was trying to say. Just that it was an accident. Forgotten but not gone(Im still here-God damn it) | ||||
| MashedPotatohead NIGGA PLEASE! All the bitches in here are crazy! | posted on 08-30-2001 @ 2:49 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Doesn't matter if it was an accident or not - the cause of death is/was a direct result of the initial action. DAMN - I watch too many police dramas ;) Book'em Dan-o, murder one | ||||
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