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Sean Cold 3:16
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 7:40 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
As some of you know, I do construction on the new terminal for Amnerican Airlines. Now something I have been saying for quite some time is bugging the shit out of me to no end.

The security at and around the job site is manned by men that from any glance look Arab. Am I the only person who does not see something extreemly wrong with this?

Let's even overlook the fact that most Middle East countries are fed a steady diet of HATE for my beloved country.

My point is that they do not do their jobs period. I have countlessly entered the "old" terminal with a wide range of different tools. Not a person checks my ID or asks me jack shit. I have entered said facility with a Hilti gon powdered powered nail gun and not even a blink from these assholes.

I have made it through every single check point in the building and have never been stopped at all.

And now people wonder how shit like this happens. If I felt inclined to bring a bomb to the hangers, no one would have ever stopped me.

Hopefully that changes now.

Sorry about the rant.

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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 7:55 PM      
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Sean, I hear you. The questions they ask, which were supposed to create a heightened sense of safety among passengers, did nothing. Like you can't say you packed your bags when you are a terrorist yourself? And lets say you are a terrorist, and have, as some of the hijackers did, a boxcutter in your carry-on? Or something else non-metallic, which will pass through the metal detectors but can be just as deadly? Those questions did nothing. If you want to do something, and I mean permanently, like Anthony said, raise the ticket prices just a bit and provide Air Marshalls on ALL flights into and out of and in the United States. If you want the convience to fly in an airplane, you should have to pay for the security in some degree.

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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 8:14 PM      
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quote:

Sorry about the rant.



YOU HAVE NO REASON TO BE SORRY - You made a valid point.

I'll open my bag and let them go through my shit, I have nothing to hide. All you people crying over civil liberties - tell that to the people that are NEVER COMING HOME . Take the fuckin' bus if you don't like it.

As for air marshalls, I'd rather have a couple of them. Maybe it's me but I don't want one that is 'having a bad day' going ballistic mid-flight.



This message was edited by MashedPotatohead on 9-12-01 @ 8:20 PM
zootybang
posted on 09-12-2001 @ 8:54 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
My father works for Jet blue airlines out of JFK, and he said the same thing, sean. He cant believe something like this, or worse, didn't happen much sooner.




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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 8:57 PM      
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El Al, the Isreali airline, has sharp shooters on EVERY flight.

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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 9:04 PM      
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Looks like they are going to Marshalls on all flights now


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posted on 09-12-2001 @ 9:18 PM      
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Registered: Aug. 01
Not to change subject, this was a very good point made here in this thread.....but

Hey Arthur Dent are you aware your sig pic link is broken. Ive seen it on a few threads and just thought I would say something in case you for some reason were not aware.

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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 5:08 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
Hey filling etenic quotas for jobs or profiling for jobs is not PC, well too fuckin bad man.

I don't want a oriental making my pizza

I don't want a blind guy cutting my hair

I don't want a midget on my basketball team

I don't want a arab being in charge of the security for my flight

some people just shouldn't do certain jobs.


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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 5:44 AM      
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I heard on the news that one of the terrorists had a ramp pass.

I also heard there was a incident at JFK with 3 Arabs on a plane. The flight crew didn't like the way they were acting and asked them to get off the plane. The 3 refused. When the flight crew call the police to remove them, the 3 vanished. These 3 are still at large.

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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 5:50 AM      
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I repair ATM machines and I've strolled in and out of Newark airport countless times with bags of tools. I've never been stopped while walking into the terminals and could have easily filled a toolbag with explosives, dropped it near an ATM, left the terminal, and made it home before anyone could realize that something was wrong before it would be too late. I guess something needs to be done, but I wish I had the answer.


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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 5:59 AM      
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There's a bit in a book I love-- Good Omens, by Neil Gaimon and Terry Pratchett (sp?)

It talks about how government and security instalations are like bee hives. The bees will fight to the death to keep intruder moths out, but once the intruder is inside, none of the beens notice them because they assume they're supposed to be there. After all, if they weren't, they'd have been stopped before they got in, right!?

We've become so damn compacent and far too trusting.

GS- Totally agree with you! Being PC is usless if we're endangering and hurting ourselves.




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Metalfan
posted on 09-13-2001 @ 8:00 AM      
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quote:

Hopefully that changes now.



Amen to that Sean, but look what the fuck it takes to open their eyes. They must feel that if you don't think about it, it mustn't exist. Assholes!

They don't consider boxcutters and Leatherman knives to be contraband on a plane because the blades are less than 4". Tell me you don't have something similar in your toolbox that you could easily hide away and board a plane with. I still can't believe the fact that these scumbags took planes over with just boxcutters. Fucking scary shit.

They picked on the wrong fucking city!

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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 8:09 AM      
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I heard someone on the radio with a great idea. Seal the bulkhead between the pilot's area and the rest of the cabin. Make the cockpit accessible only by the outside. Marshalls are a must, but if they cant get to the pilots without venturing outside at 36000 feet, they woont get anywhere....
Metalfan
posted on 09-13-2001 @ 8:20 AM      
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quote:

I heard someone on the radio with a great idea. Seal the bulkhead between the pilot's area and the rest of the cabin. Make the cockpit accessible only by the outside.



Maybe the doors should be steel firedoors with a more secure way of locking them, but you can't just seal the crew inside like that.

OK, not to belittle the idea....but does that mean the pilots have to go outside at 35000 feet to take a leak?

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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 8:21 AM      
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I think you could put a bathroom in there, just seal the door so no one can get in. If terrorists can't control the plane, there is no point in hijacking it, right?

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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 8:22 AM      
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Not trying to provoke you Sean, but you know who I work with.

This situation has been an ongoing joke/concern for my clients for several years now. Historically, they found it amusing. I'm sure now they think it is nightmare.

I'm sure the Labor Council and individual Unions will raise holy hell to get this access issue changed. And, like Sean is probably doing already, these guys will police themselves and make sure no one that does not belong on the job site is hanging around.

Gonzo is right, fuck PC.

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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 9:16 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
I like the idea Smash...Lock the bulkhead...


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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 2:28 PM      
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quote:

the security at and around the job site is manned by men that from any glance look arab.....



WHAT THE FUCK!?!?! who hires these people, MR. Magoo??????

i havent been to a sand nigger(sorry, i'm not feeling PC-FUCK IT!!!)store in my neighborhood, nor do i have ANY intention of using them ever again.......at one store, they were LAUGHING AT ANYBODY WHO WAS VISIBLY UPSET...........

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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 5:51 PM      
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I gotta be honest. I don't care about what the guys look like as much as the fact that most security didn't care. Who here hasn't seen the people who are supposed to be watching the x-ray machine look like they would rather be home watching Oprah?

As the boys said, everyone took everything for granted. I remember back a few years when they last hijaaked planes. Things changed briefly. And even then, security was different at different airports.

Hell, just last year someone did a check on airport security and they found something like 60% of the time they were able to smuggle fake guns onboard.



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GonzoStyle
posted on 09-14-2001 @ 12:22 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

I repair ATM machines and I've strolled in and out of Newark airport countless times with bags of tools. I've never been stopped while walking into the terminals and could have easily filled a toolbag with explosives, dropped it near an ATM, left the terminal, and made it home before anyone could realize that something was wrong before it would be too late. I guess something needs to be done, but I wish I had the answer.



Not to sway off the subject but it's comments like this that kinda bother me. Not bashing irish at all here but i been hearing these past few days on the news about all these ways of sneaking weapons and other stuff on planes. Isn't giving away these secrets to a national audeince like dumb. True most terrorists know this but what about some moronic teen who feels columbinish one day? Like sean told me the other day "in The Line Of Fire" with clint eastwood gave people great ides, but is the media sometimes sharing too much with us?


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