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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 10:53 PM      
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quote:

NCCI pulls workers' flags

By Phil Galewitz, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Saturday, September 15, 2001

On a day of national mourning and prayer, a Boca Raton company had its managers confiscate some American flags from employees' cubicles, saying other workers might find them offensive.

NCCI Holdings Inc., a company that compiles workers compensation insurance data, told its 850 Boca Raton employees that displays of nationalism had no place in the office.

"Divisive statements or actions, political or religious discussions and anything else that could be divisive or mean different things to different people are not appropriate in our work environment," Chief Executive Officer Bill Schrempf said Friday in a memo to employees.

Several employees complained about the flag prohibition. One employee said she was suspended and told to go home Friday morning when she refused to remove a small flag from her desk. The company refused to confirm whether it had asked any employees to leave.

"It just boggles my mind that here in America or anywhere in America, one would be restricted from displaying it," one employee wrote in an e-mail to Schrempf that also was sent to The Palm Beach Post. "Too many people these days, including yourself, it seems, seem to forget what the flag symbolizes and that many men and women served to defend that flag. I think you should show a little more respect."

NCCI spokesman Michael Bullard said the company has a long-standing policy of prohibiting employees from bringing political or religious symbols into the workplace.

Fewer than 10 flags were removed from cubicles, Bullard said. "It seems to me only a small number of people are upset about this," he said.

Palm Beach Gardens human resources consultant Rita Craig said companies need to understand that "right now, more than ever, people want to celebrate the fact that they're American."

"Let's face it, this is the United States. Our flag signifies our freedom," Craig said. "It's not saying that other countries are bad."

Other large Palm Beach County employers, including Delray Beach-based Office Depot and the Palm Beach County School District, allowed their workers to display the flag at their desks.

At FPL Group Inc. in Juno Beach, some employees were given small flags, said Pat Davis, a company spokeswoman.

At Office Depot, the company sent an e-mail to employees Thursday encouraging them to wear red, white and blue clothing on Friday, said company spokesman Lauren Garvey.

NCCI observed a moment of silence at noon Friday, gathering its workers in the headquarters' atrium. The company also has offered to help businesses affected by the terrorist attacks. The attacks at the World Trade Center and Pentagon will generate thousands of workers compensation claims.

NCCI said it was not directly affected by Tuesday's terrorist attack, though some employees lost family and friends, Bullard said.

Gov. Jeb Bush this week urged all Floridians with flags to fly them. Radio stations and various groups have urged Americans to display the flag this week as a sign of national strength and unity.

NCCI is the only Florida company named in the 2001 Best Workplace for Financial Professionals by CFO magazine in its September issue. It was singled out for its "quality of work life."

NCCI's "company practices enable each employee to create for themselves the proper balance of work and family life," CFO said.

NCCI provides on-site amenities, including child care, gym and a Starbucks cafe. It also has an employee-community volunteer program and flexible work scheduling.




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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 10:58 PM      
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This just in- companies ban pictures of families from desks of workers because it might make divorced/widowed/childless/single co-workers feel bad.

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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 11:00 PM      
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quote:

saying other workers might find them offensive.

Explain that one!?!
It actually sounds like something my Nazi company would do.



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Spork
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 11:01 PM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
This just in... I've got no time for un-American cunts like this guy.

We live in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. For those who are not BORN an American citizen, and for those who are naturalized, part of the ceremony to make you a citizen is to renounce your other citizenship and loyalties to your previous country and take the Oath of Alligiance.

To be an American citizen, to wave your flag in the face of these monsters? There is NOTHING wrong, and nothing offensive about this.

You are simply supporting your country, being a patriot. Who would have a problem with that? And if you do have a problem with that, then yes, I say get the fuck out!

I hope that someone reading this story gives the suspended workers jobs in a REAL company and I hope that this politically correct PRICK loses his best employees because of this ridiculous action.

Oh, and whoever is saying that this place is one of the best places to work better not have this company on its list next year.





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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 11:02 PM      
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Here's another one.

quote:

PASADENA, Texas -- Most Americans, including children, want to show their national pride by wearing the colors of the United States flag -- the red, the white and the blue.
But when two Pasadena children wore T-shirts showing their pride, they were told it wasn't appropriate, according to a News2Houston report.

Because today was deemed a national day of prayer and remembrance by President Bush, Desert Storm veteran Donnie Meyer wanted to pass on patriotism to his two daughters. So, he allowed his 7-year-old and 9-year-old to wear T-shirts with the American flag emblazoned on them to school at McMasters Elementary School.

He never thought there would be a problem.

However, the school's principal asked 7-year-old Ashley to change her shirt because it wasn't part of the school's dress code.

The Pasadena Independent School District's assistant superintendent points out that McMasters remembered Tuesday's tragedy during several school programs Friday, and the T-shirt incident was merely a mistake.

The school district maintains that they allow each school to determine their own dress code, but Assistant Superintendent Kirk Lewis said that the Meyer children and other students will be allowed to wear American flags on their shirts on similar occasions like today's remembrances.




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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 11:02 PM      
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That might be the most fucked up thing I've ever read. You would think people were putting up the Confederate flag or something.

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Sephiroth
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 11:03 PM      
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quote:

It actually sounds like something my Nazi company would do.


Then put up one of the Fuerer's flags. Hell, you might get promoted.

Leaking Nipples
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 11:10 PM      
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I can't put into words how pissed off that article made me. I've spent 10 minutes just thinking of how to reply and I can't come up with anything that makes any sense. I'm just so pissed. If our flag offended anyone in that office, THERE'S the door. LEAVE. WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE. WE WANT YOU BACK IN WHATEVER SHITHOLE YOU CRAWLED OUT OF.

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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 11:11 PM      
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I'd just have to walk out of that company and never look back.

Oh wait, I'd probably have to stop by the top boss's office, flip him off, take a shit on his desk, THEN walk out.


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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 11:13 PM      
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you know this is just fucking rigulous. you might not like the flag but if it's fucking America, you live with the flag. It's not religious, it's fucking patriotic. Fuck you.

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okterrific23
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 11:16 PM      
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I don't know where this country is headed to. This is insane, I thought this was America! By the way, the stories can be found here


"I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Unicron
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 11:23 PM      
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Anyone who says you can't show the flag of the nation you live in cause it might offend, should be shipped out.

We are at War, we have lost thousands of lives, but no, don't show national pride in the face of these tragidies. What an Ass. Scumbag.


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Spork
posted on 09-16-2001 @ 11:33 PM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
I simply hope that this guy gets a shitload of bad press for his company and he is forced to resign.

quote:


"Divisive statements or actions, political or religious discussions and anything else that could be divisive or mean different things to different people are not appropriate in our work environment," Chief Executive Officer Bill Schrempf said Friday in a memo to employees.


From their 2000 Annual Report:
quote:

NCCI Holdings, Inc. Values
We have a bias to action. We work corporately and individually to return value to our stakeholders. We challenge ourselves to develop new products and services that will provide the highest value to our customers. We continually strive to answer the question—"What is best for my customers?"—and act accordingly with their best interests in mind.

We have confidence in our ability to deliver. We celebrate our diversity, ideas and knowledge. We embrace trust and respect, continuously seeking to create a family-friendly workplace. We endeavor to effect positive change in the organization by taking risks and exploring new growth opportunities, both personally and professionally.

We take time to plan and reflect upon our actions. We recognize and learn from our failures, and we celebrate our successes.

We are mindful of our interaction with the communities where we live and work. We recognize our responsibility to be good corporate citizens and to support our communities.

We are committed to using our experience and knowledge to enhance today's products and services and to create new ones that generate significant value for our customers and all those we serve.


Hmm, what was Anthony's term for guys like this?

"Ass-cunt"?




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posted on 09-16-2001 @ 11:49 PM      
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I hope these politically correct bleeding heart fucks die a slow death....enough p.c. bullshit....time for sweet talk is fucking over....get on board or fucking crawl into some fucking hole and shut your mother fucking mouth...



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Rone
posted on 09-17-2001 @ 12:00 AM      
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i just can't grasp the concept that somebody could actually be offended by the American flag.

if you are offended by our flag, theres no reason for you to even be here in the first place.
Spork
posted on 09-17-2001 @ 12:05 AM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
I wonder if the CEO is a citizen? That's a German name.




Thank you to all the brave volunteers who brought us all together as a country,
and thank you to those of you brave soldiers who will fight and have fought for our country.
We are a free people because of your efforts.
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posted on 09-17-2001 @ 12:11 AM      
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quote:

if you are offended by our flag, theres no reason for you to even be here in the first place.

'ZACTLY...
Ponderous...


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posted on 09-17-2001 @ 12:27 AM      
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Seeing at is in boca Raton, chances are most of the employees are illegal immigrants from Cuba. Of course if they left Cuba to come here then...wait a minute, who the fuck would be offended by the American flag?

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Spork
posted on 09-17-2001 @ 12:44 AM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
Exactly. I mean I'm not trying to totally go all McCarthy-ite on this guy's ass or anything, and yes, this is still a free country, but c'mon now!

What is up this guy's ass? What the fuck is his story?

The only way he could possibly think that the flag display could be offsensive is if he HIMSELF were offended.

If that's the case - man - I don't know what they should do with this tool!




Thank you to all the brave volunteers who brought us all together as a country,
and thank you to those of you brave soldiers who will fight and have fought for our country.
We are a free people because of your efforts.
IkeaBoy
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posted on 09-17-2001 @ 12:51 AM      
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quote:

this is still a free country,
if it was a free country you'd be able to show appreciation for your country

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posted on 09-17-2001 @ 12:54 AM      
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this just in: milk banned in the USA because its deemed offensive to the lactose intolerant

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No colors anymore i want them to turn black

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posted on 09-17-2001 @ 12:54 AM      
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if you are offended by ole glory you are in the wrong country, i bet he is not offended by american money though.


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posted on 09-17-2001 @ 6:53 AM      
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quote:

NCCI said it was not directly affected by Tuesday's terrorist attack, though some employees lost family and friends, Bullard said.


It was not directly affected? So it didn't affect them financially is what this means...assholes!



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posted on 09-17-2001 @ 9:15 AM      
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quote:

You would think people were putting up the Confederate flag or something.


Well both companies were in the south, maybe they were insulted that it wasn't the Confederate flag being waved....talk about holding a grudge



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posted on 09-17-2001 @ 10:43 AM      
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Next thing you know we'll all be in neatly pressed suits and outfits, gray... with no bright colors. We don't want any vivid colors causing strain on the eyes of those who see them.

...

Damn, what the hell is wrong with some people anyway?




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