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o&aswallow
posted on 10-10-2001 @ 9:00 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
I’m starting to see a disturbing trend that seems to be terrorizing the American public. Much of it of course is being fueled by the media and their need to sensationalize everything they report. Recent coverage surrounding the anthrax case in Florida, and the wacko with the bottle of cleaning fluid in Washington’s Metro yesterday, are prime examples. You cannot turn on any of the major cable news networks lately without hearing hours of gloom and doom about chemical and biological terrorism.

The simple fact is, we are giving the terrorists too much credit. They are a group of autonomous teams that work in the shadows, needing to get most of their financing, training and supplies from stone age supply methods in the mountains and deserts of 3rd world countries.

Granted, the attacks on the World Trade Center was pulled off with surprise, precision and determination. But that attack was planned for, scoped out and practiced for years. The funding of and transfer of funds was done carefully and in many small transactions. Al-Queda’s recent threats of more airline attacks are hogwash. With the heightened security and individual awareness, there is little to no chance of another hijacking being remotely successful. The failed hijacking that crashed in Pennsylvania is a prime example. When passengers were made aware of what was happening in New York and Washington, they intervened. When the retard stormed the Chicago bound flight this week, passengers intervened. The terrorists on September 11th, didn’t anticipate passenger involvement, and had no contingency to deal with it, a sign that their plans are narrowly focused.

Instead of worrying about mass biological attacks, or future hijackings, the American public needs to look at how terrorists work. Take a look at Israel. The next terrorist acts won’t be anything on the scale of the WTC attacks. They will be an individual strapped with dynamite walking into a Christian church service, a restaurant, mall or movie theater, yelling some babble about praising Allah and blowing themselves up. These type of acts will be done in quite towns in the Midwest and rural areas, trying to make us fear the basic activities of our lives. They will attempt these attacks around specific anniversaries. Terrorists are big on symbolic dates. Tomorrow, October 11th should be a date that people are extremely vigilant.

So live your lives folks and understand that worrying about or trying to figure out what’s next is not healthy. It will only feed terrorists egos. Don’t buy into the hype that there are thousands of sleepers waiting to wake up and reek havoc. Most acts of terrorism are executed by an individuals passion for their religious or idealistic beliefs. They are driven to do what they do by a deep rooted period of anger that builds over time. But even with that anger, few will be willing to take the ultimate step of suicide, regardless of what their misguided leaders might tell them.

Stop giving these moronic misguided ass f’s more credit then they deserve.

You know your elders, we always have to try and rationalize everything to you kids. ;-)



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posted on 10-10-2001 @ 9:12 AM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
I agree, I think there's a distinct point where you move past being prepared and alert and begin to actually look for problems to happen.


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posted on 10-10-2001 @ 9:19 AM      
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I do agree with you OAS. But with everything going on, i think it would be wiser not to under-estimate them. A year ago, if you told me that the WTC would be toppled, i would have laughed at you. They certainly should not be diefied, but we shouldnt assume that they are 2-bit hacks living in caves. If anything, it has been proven what determined individuals can do.

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o&aswallow
posted on 10-10-2001 @ 9:37 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Seph, by no means do I suggest that they won't act again. They will, and other innocent Americans will die. What I'm suggesting is we need to stop looking for something on the scale of the WTC, and look closer over our shoulder.


Who want's to play Afghan Bingo?
B1 - B52 - A10 - F15
BINGO! - Buh-bye Mother F'er
Oh and kissy-pie huggy-poo The Froy thing.


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Canweseeyourstuff
posted on 10-10-2001 @ 9:39 AM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
You can't underestimate these fanatics, but we can't live in fear either.I agree with OAS about the highjacking probability being low.Isrel has been going through the car bombings and suicide bombers for decades but do not let them disrupt their lives.

Kid Afrika
posted on 10-10-2001 @ 9:40 AM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change
Courage to change the things I can
And wisdom to know the difference


I'm not religious in the least, but I like the above quote. It just doesn't pay to worry about things that are out of your control. Not one among us can predict what will happen next or do anything to stop it.


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Maynard
posted on 10-10-2001 @ 10:15 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
K1d, for you to say that is being naive. You SHOULD worry about those things. If we worry about them, it is less likely for them to happen again. Don't you think a bit of worrying will increase our sense of awareness against this sort of thing?

OAS, I agree with you that the next attacks will be smaller scale. But, I do not think that they are uncapable of biological warfare. We have no real idea what they have tucked up their sleeve. They may have biological weapons, they may not. They may even have some sort of nuclear device, but then again, they may not. We can't be 100% sure at this point so I think that we should be cautious.

Last night on the news, I heard some douche talking about the bombings, and they were talking about the ground troops going in. He was asked about the stinger missles that they have. His reply was this..."The stingers that they have have been sitting around for around 15 years, in an unprotected environment subject to dust, and other dirt. The odds that they will work are extremely slim." (not a direct quote, but close) This guy is a fucking idiot. I will BET that at least some of thos missles work. What an idiot to say that they will not. It's tools like this that end up making decisions and cost lives.

o&aswallow
posted on 10-10-2001 @ 10:31 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
One must accept the reality of this war. Unlike the Gulf War, Serbia, Bosnia and others, soldiers will die. We must learn to accept that.

The terrorist organizations do have bio capabilities. They were manufactured in the Sudan at the pharmacutical plant that Clinton attacked that he was accused of doing to divert attention from the blowjob case. The problem they have is disbursement. They have a very minimal ability to distribute in mass quantities. Florida was probably an experiment, with minimal results.

They probably do have some tactical nukes from the Chetnyan(sp) Republicand we can expect to see them attempt to use it against trrops either in Afghanistan, Iraq or Iran.


Who want's to play Afghan Bingo?
B1 - B52 - A10 - F15
BINGO! - Buh-bye Mother F'er
Oh and kissy-pie huggy-poo The Froy thing.


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posted on 10-10-2001 @ 10:51 AM      
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Registered: Dec. 00
OAS - allow me to shed some light on the culture of the Chechnyans. They are a Muslim community but they are similar in nature to the Turks. A majority of them are Sunni's that are peace loving people. They are extremely against death of innocent lives.

As a military force, they are putting up a hell of a struggle against the Russians. But it's for a different reason.

The Chechnyans don't fear death but it's not for religious reasons. It's because they accept it as an unavoidable event. We all die sooner or later.

In a majority of Europe, the biggest and most feared force in organized crime are the chechnyans. Why? because they have no fear of dying. They are, however, extremely against Terrorism. Abdullah Ocalan is the leader of the Kurdish Liberation Front, an underground terrorist organization based out or Northern Iraq and southeast Turkey. The PKK has killed thousands of innocent people in Turkey and he's been hunted for years. The Chechnyans were instrumental (behind the scenes) in his capture and extradition from Greece to Turkey.



o&aswallow
posted on 10-10-2001 @ 11:24 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Thanks Grumpy, I haven't been able to find out much about their motivation. One other question. Where are the unaccounted for former Soviet nukes that were in the Chechnyan state prior to the breakup of the Soviet Union? Are they still under Chechnyan control to use for their protection or civil war, or have they been sold through the Russian mob?


Who want's to play Afghan Bingo?
B1 - B52 - A10 - F15
BINGO! - Buh-bye Mother F'er
Oh and kissy-pie huggy-poo The Froy thing.


American Patriot, Pennsylvania resident, but original NYC listener.
Kid Afrika
posted on 10-10-2001 @ 11:47 AM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

K1d, for you to say that is being naive. You SHOULD worry about those things. If we worry about them, it is less likely for them to happen again. Don't you think a bit of worrying will increase our sense of awareness against this sort of thing?

maynard, no I don't think that worrying about future acts will do anything to help us. Our government, with all of its frailties, is still the best government in the world. I have faith in our government to protect our country much better than you or I can. This is why I say it doesn't pay to worry about it. I don't pretend to think that we should disregard these terrorist acts in the least. But, what would you have us do? I am no more prepared to identify a terrorist or thwart ones plans than I am to run this country.

Being paranoid that something else will happen does nothing good for anyone. Our knowledge of what is really going on in the world, with regard to terrorist attacks on America, is dwarfed to the nth degree by what our government knows. Again, nothing you or I can do will possibly impact whether or not we are attacked again by terrorists. The scope of these types of actions is far beyond the capabilities of the average citizen. I'm not saying that if you see something suspicious you shouldn't report it, but rather that a group of Asian Indian people is not necessarily a terrorist plot.


So what do you really wanna do when I get militant

Thought I was a pimp, flip the script if you can' get with this

They call me Big Boi, I be cappin with a big gun

Run up on it if you want it, then you bite the big one



adolescentmasturbator
posted on 10-10-2001 @ 5:35 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

Abdullah Ocalan is the leader of the
Kurdish Liberation Front, an underground
terrorist organization based out or Northern
Iraq and southeast Turkey. The PKK has killed
thousands of innocent people in Turkey and he's
been hunted for years.


Many opponents of Kurdish liberation have tried
to play the Northern Iraqi Kurds aganist the
Turkish Kurds. In fact the Turkish and Iraqi
governments have been oppressive towards the
Kurds and even killing them in mass numbers.
During the Iran-Iraq war in the 80s when Saddam
would retreat he would gas everyone in Kurdish
villages. Ive seen the video it's a picture
straight out of Nazi Germany. In Turkey Kurds
were slaughtered just as much if not more. To
say that the Kurds are not extremely oppressed
by Iraq and Turkey is pretty much a lie.




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meatballnip
posted on 10-10-2001 @ 6:48 PM      
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Registered: Nov. 00
ust my opinion:

I think that we do need be worried, not scared, of an attack along the same lines.
We have seen similar attacks in the past, USS Cole and the Marine barracks, though
not on the same scale as WTC. Anything is possible, so I do remain weary of the
threat though not scared.

As far as underestimating the terrorist groups that are out there, we have in the past
and I am fairly sure that we will do so again. They are a crafty and cunning group
that think in ways that us, as Americans in general, do not and I hope we never do.


God bless all who are going to war for this great nation.




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