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SLASH Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans)	posted on 11-19-2001 @ 1:02 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00	quote: The U.S. Senate on Thursday voted to renew a ban on Internet taxes, ensuring that the country's 130 million Internet users will not face new taxes for another two years. By a voice vote, the Senate renewed a ban on Internet taxes that expired last month when lawmakers could not agree whether to include a provision that would encourage states in their quest to tax online sales. The Senate rejected the sales-tax provision and opted to extend the expired ban for two years, until Nov. 1, 2003. The House of Representatives last month approved an identical bill, which drew support from President Bush. The bill is now expected to go straight to Bush for signature into law. Congress passed the original ban in 1998 to prevent states and local governments from imposing new taxes that might discourage growth of the new medium, which now accounts for somewhat less than 1 percent of all retail sales. But with more than half of all Americans now online, many state and local governments worry that their revenues will decrease as residents turn increasingly to the Internet to make purchases. A 1992 Supreme Court decision prohibits states from collecting taxes on transactions unless the retailer has a physical presence in the state. That adds up to $13.3 billion in lost revenues this year, according to one study. Without thinking about your own wallets (or in MayNERD's case Purse) do you people think that the purchases on the internet should be taxed? I say "no" due to the fact that catlogue sales are not taxed... If "A 1992 Supreme Court decision prohibits states from collecting taxes on transactions unless the retailer has a physical presence in the state" held true all along for catolgue shoppers it should stay the same. Either way, happy internet shopping for another 2 years :) Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here AIM: SmarterChild

FollowThisLogic Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan.	posted on 11-19-2001 @ 1:19 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00	It's the same deal with all those fake emails (read: actually chain letters) going around saying that they're going to tax email. I figure that it will probably not happen. Especially the email tax. Why? People use it because it's easy and it's free. If the government taxes it, people will either start using overseas email providers, or someone will invent something new, and that will be free. Same thing with Napster. They blocked all the songs, fine. Everyone moved to Morpheus or iMesh or BearShare... anything to keep it free. It's just the nature of the internet. "Miracles and lucky charms made the girl of my dreams the girl in my arms." - Dr. Frank Noellevious.... she's made me so proud. Viddy well, little brother... err, sister.

hornygoatweed I've Got A Vagina With Teeth. G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Dragoon Battalion My friends call me Weed	posted on 11-19-2001 @ 1:28 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01	I don't see how they can justify a tax on internet purchases. As it is, some e-tailers charge me local (NYC) tax when I place orders. Its almost like the phonce company charging a zillion small taxes for "access fees" that adds up to a lot of cash each month. What about people who don't use the internet for purchasing goods? Should they be taxed as well? The internet was intended to be a free outlet for communication and information gathering - its not free unless you use something like NetZero or something, and then you get shitty connections - pay a "premium" price, you get better shitty connections - pay for broadband, you get fast speeds, but at a high price - which gets taxed by my cable company to begin with! Taxing net users in two years or anytime would be a big mistake IMO. ..Land of the free...home of the brave... You can reach me through AIM or email. Don't be shy, drop a line and say Hi!

SLASH Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans)	posted on 11-19-2001 @ 1:36 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00	quote: As it is, some e-tailers charge me local (NYC) tax when I place orders. Well some of these e-tailers jumped the gun and started complying to a law that wasn't passed yet. I am sure that if the e-tailer does not reside in your city/state, you are entitled to a refund in the very least. The Internet Freedom Act of 1998 imposed a moratorium on Internet-related taxes from 10/1998 through 10/2001 (This has been put on another ban for another 2 years). However, a limited "grandfather" clause permitted a few states that had already taken steps to tax Internet access, to continue to do so if they began taxing prior to October 1, 1998. These states include: State Sales Tax Hawaii 4% New Mexico 5% North Dakota 5% South Dakota 4% Tennessee 3.5% Texas 6.26% 1st $25 excluded Wisconsin 5% Connecticut 2% Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here AIM: SmarterChild

TheGooch Mullet Master Yo Gooch, Moron here... how's that for some fucked up shit... Fez is giving you status... Karma sucks, huh?	posted on 11-19-2001 @ 1:41 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00	Eventually, there will INDEED be a tax. Not perhaps on email, but eventually, there will be on items you order online. Within the decade, guaranteed. Though there has been a delay on it, don't get suckered by "The Internet is free for everyone". Our senators and congressmen will eventually seep into it with taxes b/c this is how they get funding. Just because this is a new avenue...remember...it is merely a new avenue of commerce...and only b/c it is new, is the ONLY reason they are not taxing right away.

Maynard	posted on 11-19-2001 @ 1:47 PM
O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jan. 01	YES! Tax the fuck out of online purchases. Why? When you purchase something online, you are taking dollars out of the hands of your local businesses. I am a big supporter of local businesses and they are dying. 2 reasons for that. 1 - Internet sales. 2 - Large warehouse type stores. It's becoming more and more impossible for someone to run a small business now. Personally the only time I shop online is if I can't find it in my local businesses. I think they should make the taxing REALLY high, like double or triple what it usually is. That way, you will only buy stuff online that is rare or difficult to find. you can have my isolation, you can have the hate it brings you can have my absence of faith, you can have my everything People suck.

SLASH Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans)	posted on 11-19-2001 @ 2:23 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00	quote: When you purchase something online, you are taking dollars out of the hands of your local businesses. I am a big supporter of local businesses and they are dying. 2 reasons for that. 1 - Internet sales. 2 - Large warehouse type stores. It's becoming more and more impossible for someone to run a small business now. Yes, MayNERD, I absolutely agree with you on that point. However, catologue sales have never been taxed under the same conditions, and believe it or not, they amount to millions or billions a year as well. That's my sole reason for saying "no" to Internet Tax. Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here AIM: SmarterChild

TheGooch Mullet Master Yo Gooch, Moron here... how's that for some fucked up shit... Fez is giving you status... Karma sucks, huh?	posted on 11-19-2001 @ 2:32 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00	I beleive we should not be taxed on any purchases we make, and that we should only be taxed ONCE, on the money we make, not the money we seek to spend...and that payment is finished April 15th of every year. These other taxes on the shit we buy is underhanded bullshit. That or keep everything under $500 non-taxed, and step it up from there based on the amount of the purchase. That's another system that I can live with.

Maynard	posted on 11-19-2001 @ 2:48 PM
O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jan. 01	Gooch, that is a GREAT point. We shouldn't be taxed twice. They are making money on everyone. They tax the manufacturer(our job's paycheck & our company itself), the distributer(the stores), the consumer(us when we buy the stuff). That is fucking ridiculous. you can have my isolation, you can have the hate it brings you can have my absence of faith, you can have my everything People suck.

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