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Redhead Lover
posted on 03-14-2002 @ 3:32 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Feb. 02


quote:

You know Redhead, criticizing the government does NOT make you anti-American in anyway shape or form even in our current social climate. In fact, it's what America is based on.




You're absolutely right. Not only do I agree with you that this what America is based on, but I said a similiar thing in a post to Barch97. Click on the link to my earier posts that appears on my profile if you don't believe me.

I don't have an issue with people criticizing the government, I take issue with people defending terrorism. Again, look at my prior posts, and you'll see I myself have stating things I haven't supported the US government doing.

quote:



Why does mindlessly following your government bashing anyone who might offer a dissenting view make you a better person than say the Afghanis who mindlessly follow their leaders and ostracize anyone who does differently? You offer no intelligent discussion or debate except simply to say 'kill them all.'




I have stated before my reasons for being proud to be American, including that America allows freedom of religion, and that America embraces all races and religions. I have always stated the the deaths of innocent civilians is always a tragedy, no matter where their from. I don't feel we should "Kill Them All", I feel we should "Kill All The Terrorists".

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and criticizing someone because of a spelling error is just lame you stupid fucker. I'm sure not all of your posts have perfect spelling.




You're obviously talking about Monocracy. My issue with him wasn't his misspellings, it was the condescending attitude he had from day one. Before I even posted, he said everyone on the board was a bunch of eight-year-olds. I just found it amusing that someone who keeps telling us how he's so much smarter than him keeps misspelling. However, you're absolutely right that my speeling isn't perfect either. Still, unlike Monocracy, I never claimed to be smarter than anyone.

I'm sorry you feel I contribute nothing. But I question why you then continue to read my posts? If you think I'm stupid, fine, then just pass by my postings. If you have an issue, then by all means, we can discuss it. I'll be the first to admit my temper can get out of control at times, but I felt good about the debate I had with Barch97. I may disagree with him, but I know understand his position and respect his standing by it.



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posted on 03-14-2002 @ 4:04 PM      
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If this is a reply, why the fuck did you start a new thread? Shithead.

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Redhead Lover
posted on 03-14-2002 @ 4:07 PM      
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Registered: Feb. 02
quote:

If this is a reply, why the fuck did you start a new thread? Shithead


This is in response to a discussion started on the Opie and Anthony section. Since it has absolutely nothing to do with Opie and Anthony, I thought it was more appropriate to continue this in the "Off-Topic" section.

I was under the impression you moderators were sick of Off-Topic posts appearing in the Opie and Anthony section. If I committed some offense, I apologize.


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posted on 03-14-2002 @ 4:08 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
What he said!

Oh and:
quote:

my speeling isn't perfect either


Perfect!



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posted on 03-14-2002 @ 4:09 PM      
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Registered: Sep. 00
that's explained in the Call them Cowards thread FTL.

Redhead- when did I ever say you contributed nothing?


You say 'kill all terrorists' yet you offer no plan to kill them. You can't wipe out the middle east and expect them all to be gone. At the same time you say that thinking about it cerebrally, as in "why they hate us" to prevent measures like this from happening again, is a stupid idea because it will destroy the country. You also seem to have a problem with people trying to understand the terrorists and explaining why, instead you just want a gung ho attitude of mass violence. Mass Violence WON'T WORK AGAINST THESE PEOPLE!!

And yes, monocracy said "os" instead of "of" and you felt the need to point that out. Thus you were criticizing someone purely on spelling.

EDIT: Oh and THE ORIGINAL POST HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SHOW EITHER!!!!




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This message was edited by IkeaBoy on 3-14-02 @ 4:16 PM
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posted on 03-14-2002 @ 4:09 PM      
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ha, ha, codeboy yelled at you>)



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Redhead Lover
posted on 03-14-2002 @ 4:12 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Feb. 02
quote:

ha, ha, codeboy yelled at you



Yeah, I know something horrible is going to be written in my status now... I'm scared...

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Redhead Lover
posted on 03-14-2002 @ 4:15 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Feb. 02
quote:

Mass Violence WON'T WORK AGAINST THESE PEOPLE!!




Again, I think you're 100% right. Look at Israel vs. Palestine for proof on this. A strike on the Middle East may take care of the terrorists OVER THERE, but it does nothing against the cells already in this country.

quote:

You also seem to have a problem with people trying to understand the terrorists and explaining why, instead you just want a gung ho attitude of mass violence.



My issue wasn't with people trying to understand the terrorists. In the past, I took issue with posters such as yourself and people like Bill Maher calling the terrorists "brave". In Monocracy's case, he seemed to just go all over the place finding ways to call Americans hypocrites.

It's fine to try to understand the enemy. I just get angry when people try to humanize the actions taken on Sept. 11th.

It's time I just came out and admitted it. I'm not the most rational person when it comes to Sept. 11th. Guess what day my sister was on a flight that left Logan Airport. Obviously, I'm still a little too emotional to discuss this rationally.

For the record, I'll try to control my temper in the future. I'll be the first to admit I was a little hard on Barch97 at first, but I think we came to see each other's views.


quote:

And yes, monocracy said "os" instead of "of" and you felt the need to point that out. Thus you were criticizing someone purely on spelling.





Not PURELY on spelling. I was mocking the condescending attitude he displayed as he kept taking shots at everyone on the board. I may not have agreed with Barch97, but I think he truly sttod by his position. Monocracy just seemed to want to tell us how much smarter he was than everyone else.



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posted on 03-14-2002 @ 4:27 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
quote:

I was under the impression you moderators were sick of Off-Topic posts appearing in the Opie and Anthony section.

Don't think so much. Just post. If the thread needs to be moved to Off-Topic, we will move it.

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posted on 03-14-2002 @ 4:27 PM      
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redhead, why would you get a status based on this? you produced a coherent thought, put it down for people to read, and backed up your ideas with thought. um, i don't see you getting a status for that...asking for one is a different story.





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posted on 03-14-2002 @ 4:29 PM      
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Registered: Sep. 00
You said
quote:

I don't feel we should "Kill Them All", I feel we should "Kill All The Terrorists".
Then said
quote:

Again, I think you're 100% right.(regarding that violence won't work)




"It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis."
Thursday 3/14: CBS: College Basketball...NBC: Friends (R), Faith, Grace (R), Shoot Me (R)...FOX: FAmily Guy (R), Family Guy (R), King of Hil (R), Futurama (R)...ABC: Whose Line (R), Whose Line, 2 hr Primetime Live (Roie O'Donnell episode)...UPN: Smackdown...WB: My Guide to Becoming a Rockstar (premiere), MGTBAR (episode 2), Charmed,...TBS: 1030- Goonies....CBS: Back to school...USA: 9- Billy Madison...

This message was edited by IkeaBoy on 3-14-02 @ 4:33 PM
Redhead Lover
posted on 03-14-2002 @ 4:35 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Feb. 02

.(regarding that violence won't work)

I feel that ONLY violence won't work. I have no issue with us going into Afghanistan to try to get Bin Laden and his Al-Queda followers. However, if we think this means we're safe after this, we're kidding ourselves.

It's similiar to when Clinton and Gore were calling for stronger gun laws after the Columbine shootings. It looks great on paper, but in reality, kids will still get their hands on guns if they're determined enough.

One positive display was the immediate capture of Reed when he tried to smuggle in the shoe-bomb on the plane. Still, now that they know we're more careful in the airports, I wonder what other options the terrorists are exploring...

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posted on 03-14-2002 @ 4:59 PM      
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Registered: Aug. 01
quote:

um, i don't see you getting a status for that...asking for one is a different story.


Why, what happens if you ask for a status change.

Redhead Lover
posted on 03-15-2002 @ 4:28 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Feb. 02
quote:

EDIT: Oh and THE ORIGINAL POST HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SHOW EITHER!!!!




Uhhh, I wasn't the one who started the original post, so why are you yelling at me for this?

quote:

Redhead- when did I ever say you contributed nothing?



When you said this...
quote:

You offer no intelligent discussion or debate except simply to say 'kill them all.'



When it comes to the US government, you and I just don't see eye-to-eye. I suggested this in the past when I said we should agree to disagree. As I recall, you said that was the stupidest thing you ever heard.

Again, I don't feel I BLINDLY support the US government, I've always stated reasons for my support. I respect the fact that, instead of dropping a nuclear bomb on Kabul on Sept. 12th, Bush gave the Afghan government time to surrender Bin Laden. I respect that we provided the Afghan people aid both before and after Sept. 11th, in an effort to protect the innocent civilians there.

I'm not trying to sound sarcastic, but if you really want to see more of my feelings on the war, I suggest you use the link in my profile to revisit the "Bill Maher" post. While I fully admit I was hot-headed at first, I think Barch97 and I both raised some very valid points.

Has it occurred to you that perhaps the issue is that you blindly refuse to support the US government? I'm guessing since your signature includes a picture of our president standing side-by-side with Adolf Hitler, you're not exactly a Bush fan. Perhaps your judgement may be clouded by your feelings for President Bush...


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