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AlterEgoManiac
posted on 04-22-2002 @ 6:35 PM      
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I haven't even been doing this for a whole twelve hours, and already I'm jonesing for some cereal. I gotta put up with this crap for two weeks.

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DoughBoy
posted on 04-22-2002 @ 7:03 PM      
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I did this for 4 months... then ate 'normal' for 2 and lost 108 pounds. DRINK LOTS OF WATER! Whatever you weigh = number of oz. of water you should drink per day. Stay away from ANY carbs for as long as you can. Less carbs=less insulin, more keytones. Keytones allow the body to break down stored fat for energy. If you need any advice on what you should/shouldn't eat, IM me..

Good Luck.

AlterEgoManiac
posted on 04-22-2002 @ 10:05 PM      
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What are some good meal combo ideas?

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posted on 04-22-2002 @ 10:09 PM      
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still you cant drink!!!



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posted on 04-22-2002 @ 10:10 PM      
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Also, exercise. Not real exercise if you don't want to. You be surprised at what just a half hour of walking per day can do.

I'm actually on it myself, down over 25 pounds and still going.

Lots of water is a great suggestion too.

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SweetAngel
posted on 04-22-2002 @ 10:14 PM      
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I did a modified version of this for awhile. It worked pretty well. Since I modified it, the pounds came off slower, but I noticed I had more energy. I modified it because I heard stories of all the protein causing kidney problems and my family has a history of kidney problems to begin with, so I didn't want to tempt fate.

Hard boiled eggs & cheese for breakfast.
Hamburger patties, chicken, tuna, etc. for lunch. Same for dinner.

Not a very exciting plan.

Oh, and watch your fruits and veggies...lots of them have a ton of carbs.

**EDIT** If you're having a problem so soon, you might be better on the carbohydrate addicts plan.









This message was edited by SweetAngel on 4-22-02 @ 10:18 PM
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posted on 04-23-2002 @ 1:08 AM      
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Heroin is the best diet of all.



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I think it all started with the Declaration of Independence -- the idea that we had the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit is what took America from the revolution to the computer age in 200 years. But the progress has come at a price. The obvious being the people that were exploited to make it possible; the not so obvious being us, the first group of people that were given no obvious frontiers to conquer. We hear stories that about the good old days that don't seem to apply anymore. It's a generation gap that leaves us without role models. But the bright side is that without role models, there are no roles. Maybe that's what the 60s were all about -- getting rid of the roles. But what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, the choices become overwhelming. Sometimes it just makes everything feel hopeless. So we destroy our bodies in the search of an ideal. Try to salvage relationships that don't work. We feel we must do something, instead of doing something that we feel. It is the prison of self-imposed momentum, and the sad part is that we get used to it. It reminds me of a song I heard the other day. It's called "The Going Nowhere Fast." But the people I have met here have shown me another side of Nowhere. They've pointed out the beautiful irony that stagnation makes it easy to stop and smell the roses, if we just let it. What would we be if we had nothing to rebel against? Well we could finally be ourselves, the first group of people who stopped looking for the answers long enough to appreciate the questions. And all we have to do is to make our own Declaration of Independence. We can embrace the right to life and liberty by simply realizing that happiness exists -- not to pursue, but to accept. After that the only challenge would be to make sure with the rest of our lives that we weren't just another fad. I don't know, it's an idea. What do you think?



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posted on 04-23-2002 @ 4:12 AM      
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but you still cant drink alcohol!!
or can you?



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1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all
posted on 04-23-2002 @ 5:37 AM      
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quote:

but you still cant drink alcohol!!
or can you?

Don't know about whiskey, but beer is out. Loaded with carbs.

I'm not on this diet. I'm on weight watchers. I think it's easier. Droped 55 lbs so far. Look at all us fat fucks loosing wieght. Nice




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posted on 04-23-2002 @ 5:55 AM      
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quote:

1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all




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Beans Malone
posted on 04-23-2002 @ 6:02 AM      
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Registered: Mar. 02
Only thing I find works is Taco Belle
Gordita 1 supreme-beef, 1 supreme-chicken. 1
supreme-steak, 1 santa fe-beef. ... eat that shit and you will lose weight (key word SHIT)

I did try that Hollywood Diet Drink and I lost $29. so my wallet was alittle lighter.



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The Painter
1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all
posted on 04-23-2002 @ 6:07 AM      
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quote:

1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all

That might work. Too drunk to eat.




AlterEgoManiac
posted on 04-23-2002 @ 7:26 AM      
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Registered: Mar. 02
Huh huh huh. We're fat. Huh huh huh.

Seriously though, thanks for the advice everyone. Lucky for me my personality isn't too addictive; otherwise, I'd have broken away from this diet already.

The alcohol: the hard liquor is alright, but NO beer. I don't drink anyways, so I don't have a problem with that.

Use all your well-learned politesse, or I'll lay your soul to waste.

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itsamiata
posted on 04-24-2002 @ 5:04 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Your best bet would be to eat alot of fish like almon or Red meat like steak because it is higher in natural fat content and the extra fat tends to keep you satiated longer. Fish is best, because the natural fish oils are healthy fats. Also try and use hot sauce on more foods. I find that spicy foods tend to curb your appetite quite a bit.

DoughBoy
posted on 04-24-2002 @ 7:57 AM      
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Yesterday I took about an hour to write a LONG ASS post that included some suggestions on what to eat, some of my experiences, and a makeshift cook-book. It didn't post, so fuck it. I'll write another:

The booze is NO GOOD. Although the clear ones (vodka, gin, etc) look good on paper (not many carbs) the body breaks the booze down in the same manner as carbs and raises the insulin levels in your body. Not good.

DRINK WATER! DRINK WATER! DRINK WATER! If you don't drink a TON of water, the massive amounts of protein that you eat will A) form a nice boulder in your kidneys and have to be "removed"; B) act like rubbing compound and help your kidneys to grind themselves to dust, while you piss it out! Moral of the story: DRINK LOTS OF WATER!!! When you get thirsty, don't just drink one glass, force yourself to drink two or three.

Be careful with the veggies that you eat and DON'T eat ANY fruits. I've compiled a list of some of the veggies that I didn't eat at all:

Potatoes, Tomatoes (no tomato products at all), Corn, Beans (any type of bean), Carrots (ever once in a while I would have some to splurge). Basically anything starchy or sweet.

Milk and most dairy products are bad. Most cheeses are OK, but check the labels. I found that anything with less than 1-2g of carb per serving wasn't that bad.

One veggie that looks bad on paper, but works out nicely is lettuce. The carbs that it has are mostly found in the walls of the plant-cells. You don't "get" those carbs from eating it. So salads are good things. Stay away from the fat-free dressings and the sweet dressings. Honey mustard, rasberry whatever, etc. Bleu Cheese is fine, Ranch is fine, Ceasar is fine. Adding chicken, pork, beef, fish, bacon, etc. to a salad really makes a meal!

Wish Sandwiches: Peel off a leaf of lettuce, smather with some mayo, add lunch meat and cheese, & roll up like a wrap. Consume! Don't you *WISH* you had some bread?

Normal meals like Filet Mignon, with grilled zuchini and eggplant (or any veggies) and a nice sald.

I used to make this "caserole":

Cook up some diced onions. Add some sliced peppers. Set aside. Brown some ground beef and spice with Garlic (powder or fresh), onion powder, cumin, chili powder, paprika, salt, pepper, & diced Jalepenos.

Combine peppers/onions with beef and mix in some Cheddar and Monteray jack and put in casserole dish. Top with more cheese and bake until cheese is melted. Let cool and eat. I ate it with a little sour cream.

Some other things I ate:

Take a nice, new, teflon pan and heat it up. Sprinkle some cheese on it and leave it until crispy on one side. (this is the hard part ---->) Flip the cheese so it cooks on the other side. When crispy on both sides place on paper towel to dry and cool. Now you have a nice little "chip" to munch on. They make nice "crackers" when eathing tunafish or just with some dip. Adding spices and different cheeses is nice.

Wednesday nights: Charlie Browns Steakhouse
5.99 for 3 dozen buffalo wings. Eat as many as you can! Drink water as needed.

Pound a chicken breast out so its pretty thin but large in surface area. spice with oregano, parsely, garlic, salt/pepper. Add some mozz. cheese, some ham, and some ricotta to the center of the breast. Roll up and pin shut with a toothpick. Grease a pan and bake at 350. You could add some tomato sauce, but realize that this adds carbs.

Tuna, right out of the can.

Steak and eggs.

Omelettes.

Sausage, peppers, and onions with minimal tomato sauce if needed.

Snacks are tough, eat a meal instead. In my experience, the more I ate (with no carbs) the more I lost.

Although eating out is tough, it can be done. Say you go to TGI Fridays. Get a nice ceasar salad, an order of wings (make sure they are not breaded [they're not I used to work there]), a crock of french onion soup without the crouton (bread in it), and some fajita's without the tortilla. Guess what you drink?

Ok, I'm done for now. Check back for my next installment of "THE ATKINS DIET AND YOU!"



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AlterEgoManiac
posted on 04-24-2002 @ 9:40 AM      
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Registered: Mar. 02
Pretty detailed plan, Doughboy. Sounds good to me. Thanks.

Use all your well-learned politesse, or I'll lay your soul to waste.

If I ran for a public office, would you vote for me? Please? I'll give you a dollar.

Joey BigArms
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posted on 04-24-2002 @ 10:03 AM      
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Just a suggestion from a nutritionist that I am friends with: don’t do the Atkins diet for weeks straight. Only do it for a 3-4 days in a row, take 1-2 days off then go back on it. The weight loss won’t be as dramatic if you keep on the Atkins diet straight but one thing they never tell you, its horrific for your system if you do it straight for weeks.


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DoughBoy
posted on 04-24-2002 @ 10:19 AM      
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Joey,

Your suggestion to do 4 on 3 off (about that) is based on another theory from yet another doc that has a diet. They both work fine. I liked the atkins rather than this other one, because it allowed my body to "get over" the carb loss rather than constantly craving those carbs for 4 days.


Horrific to your system? I'd love to hear how? IMHO, I think that the wieght loss, cholesterol loss, better body, & more self confidence is worth the risk of the speculation that most people have about "trend" diets. Basically what it boils down to, is that MOST of these diets WORK if you are totally dedicated to them. Whatever diet is the easiest for a person, should be the way to go.

I lost 108, ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHT, pounds in around 6 months. I had been FAT for my entire life up to that point. Unhealthy. This diet is what I needed to get healthy. Granted, I worked my ass off in the gym for 2-3 hours a day also, but I was losing weight before I started going to the gym (about 2 months into the diet).

As for the negative aspects of the diet, please show me some CONCLUSIVE long and short term tests.




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Joey BigArms
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posted on 04-24-2002 @ 11:22 AM      
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DoughBoy, I am not arguing the fact that loosing weight is not healthy, and don’t fucking twist my words around. I am stating the Atkins diet is not health and does not provide the body with the essential nutrients.

quote:

As for the negative aspects of the diet, please show me some CONCLUSIVE long and short term tests.


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DoughBoy
posted on 04-24-2002 @ 2:58 PM      
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Easy there sizzlechest. There is no TESTS to make CONCLUSIONS in that link. All of the ideas are assumptions that are based on THEORY not fact. No conclusive long-term tests have been done. Could be safe, also possible to be harmful. My point was that MANY people denouce things that they 'hear' is bad. Urban legend style. Don't knock it. It works, and I'm healthier for it. If this is what will help Alter, I say GO FOR IT! I do however warn about some of the common problems when people don't do it correctly.

Whatever man... just tryin to help. Make your own decisions. Sorry for being a dick







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Joey BigArms
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posted on 04-24-2002 @ 3:37 PM      
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quote:

Don't knock it. It works

So does cutting your legs off to loose weight or the ‘3 Day Diet’ but things that work may not be healthy.

Do what you want with Atkins, its not health to be on this diet for a long time period. Talk to any neutralist that does not have any ties with Dr. Atkins and see what they say.


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AlterEgoManiac
posted on 04-24-2002 @ 6:01 PM      
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Registered: Mar. 02
I didn't mean to cause an argument. My bad.

Use all your well-learned politesse, or I'll lay your soul to waste.

If I ran for a public office, would you vote for me? Please? I'll give you a dollar.

The Painter
1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all
posted on 04-24-2002 @ 6:55 PM      
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See. I told you weight watchers was easier. It's all about portion control. Eat anything you want, just not alot of it




Joey BigArms
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posted on 04-24-2002 @ 6:56 PM      
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quote:

I didn't mean to cause an argument. My bad.

Ah, it was not an argument; me and dough have different opinions on the Atkins diet. I still love the guy.


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AlterEgoManiac
posted on 04-24-2002 @ 7:31 PM      
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I could always go and catch the HIV. The pounds will fall off of me then.

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