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Tequila
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posted on 03-28-2001 @ 7:26 PM      
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Just heard on the channel 7 news that pot might be legal soon to use as a medicine. Dont know for what conditions?


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posted on 03-28-2001 @ 7:32 PM      
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not a snowballs chance in hell...Supreme Court is too conservative for that

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posted on 03-28-2001 @ 7:32 PM      
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my ex's father died of leukemia... and I believe he was prescribed marijuana to both ease the pain, and help him eat. I'm guessing a lot of cancer patients too because of the bitch ass hell that kemo puts you through. Dunno.

I would want it to be prescribed for the common cold, but imagine how tough it would be to keep down bong hits when you are already coughing up lungs to begin with.


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posted on 03-28-2001 @ 8:22 PM      
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The supreme court will hear arguments tomorrow on whether marijuana can be used by cancer patients.
Of course the Republicans are fighting it, saying it's a beard for pro-smoking groups.
If it can help with the side-effects, and 8 states so far , have approved medical usage;who cares? FU to cancer.

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posted on 03-28-2001 @ 8:34 PM      
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Can't waite for that to happen.




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posted on 03-28-2001 @ 8:38 PM      
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No way in hell. The government is far too conservative and uptight to allow it for anything. After all Marijuana and Nudity and Cursing and Violence in Movies are all of society's ills.

Dan-O
posted on 03-28-2001 @ 8:40 PM      
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My mother is a legal expert on medicinal-pot issues. Ironically, she's never tried it and doesn't approve of the practice... ;)

To clarify a little: The Court heard arguments today. Arizona, Alaska, California, Colorado, Maine, Nevada, Oregon and Washington have passed ballot initiatives legalizing medicinal use; Hawaii passed a bill and the governor signed it.

And there's no way the Supreme Court will find for the Oakland Cannabis Buyers' Cooperative because there are too many legal issues with the distribution, possession, etc. Not to mention the federal laws on the subject. All of this, of course, has NO effect on real life, even in those 9 states...

I could go on, anyone have a question? :p


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posted on 03-28-2001 @ 10:12 PM      
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So if this law passes you can go to your local pharmacy and bye pot over the counter? Thats got to be the funniest shit I heard all day!!


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posted on 03-28-2001 @ 10:23 PM      
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FU Tequila, did you READ what anyone posted?? ;)

There's no law, at least not here... and all the prescribing that's being done out West is "underground" (all the Bay Area "pot clubs" have been shut down).


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This message was edited by Dan-O on 3-28-01 @ 10:26 PM
NyquilJay
posted on 03-28-2001 @ 10:34 PM      
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a little more clarity in this haze of pot smoke...what is being ruled upon is the use of the "medicinal necessity" as a defense against federal drug bans...and it doesn't look good.

Antonin Scalia and a few other Justices peppered lawyers for the Oakland Cannibus Buyers Cooperative as to why they were bringing this before the court, as opposed to an individual who was busted for possession.

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spitfire421
posted on 03-29-2001 @ 10:24 AM      
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Sorry, you know I had to bring this to the top...

It's not going to happen with this Supreme Court sitting and probably not with the next one either. Just another reason why I hate this fucked-up government:
go put people in jail for inflicting major harm on one another, not some poor sick cancer patient who's one relief comes from smoking a little weed...and who is he hurting? not even himself. I just heard in High Times that they jailed an older quadriplegic man for 20 years for just growing a small quantity for personal use...Do you know how much it costs the tax payer to keep this non-violent offender in prison, including medical costs!!??!!

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imagine how tough it would be to keep down bong hits when you are already coughing up lungs to begin with
I've had no problem whatsoever, makes you feel a lot better when you're sick! (esp. w/ Nyquil LOL)


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posted on 03-29-2001 @ 10:38 AM      
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quote:

So if this law passes you can go to your local pharmacy and bye pot over the counter


Tsk Tsk Tequila, you should know to read the replies before you post again...weed never has and never will be over the counter. It should be used for medical purposes because anything that can beat cancer should be used for christs sake, not all of us have as much money as the stupid fucking republicans who are too set in their ways to change anything...


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posted on 03-29-2001 @ 10:43 AM      
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I see cigarettes becoming illegal before pot becomes legal.



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posted on 03-29-2001 @ 10:43 AM      
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The ironic part is this is the same Supreme Court that defends state's rights and used that to hand the White House to GW Asshole, will now go rule against the state's right to legislate marijuana usage.

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posted on 03-29-2001 @ 10:48 AM      
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posted on 03-29-2001 @ 10:51 AM      
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quote:

The ironic part is this is the same Supreme Court that defends state's rights and used that to hand the White House to GW Asshole, will now go rule against the state's right to legislate marijuana usage.


The election wasn't states' rights.... the popular vote is just meaningless, and always has been.

Gore lost. Let go.

And as far as pot goes.... look at Amsterdam. It's legal there, and it's not abused. Sure, making it legal would cause maybe a year or two of heavy smoking, but then people will realize that they're not getting away with anything cause it's legal, and they'll get over it. Kinda like drinking. You drink HEAVILY before you turn 21, then once you do turn 21, it gets really old, really fast.

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posted on 03-29-2001 @ 10:52 AM      
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Yeah, no support from GW, he's too busy trying to get coke legalized...


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Harpua
posted on 03-29-2001 @ 10:58 AM      
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Sorry, long post....Transript from NORML Newsletter from 3-28

High Court Mulls "Medical Necessity" for Marijuana Providers,
Avoids Federal Supremacy Question

Washington, DC: Supreme Court justices heard arguments for
the first time today on whether organizations or individuals who
violate federal marijuana laws may raise the defense of "medical
necessity" to avoid a criminal conviction. Lawyers for the
Justice Department appealed a Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals
decision rendered in July that stipulates there exists a class
of patients who benefit medically from marijuana, and that they
should not face federal criminal penalties for using it. The
Ninth Circuit decision added that this legal protection should
also extend to organizations that supply such patients with
marijuana.

NORML Executive Director R. Keith Stroup said that a majority
of justices appeared skeptical that the medical necessity defense
should protect third party providers such as the Oakland Cannabis
Buyers' Cooperative, but seemed sympathetic to the use of medical
marijuana by individual patients.

Stroup further added that regardless of how the Supreme Court
rules, state laws allowing qualified patients to use marijuana
medicinally remain safely intact. "The case before the Court
today is not a legal challenge to California's Proposition 215,
nor is it a threat to any of the additional eight medical
marijuana-use laws passed since 1996," he said. "In fact, the
justices noted and the attorney for the Justice Department
admitted that the question of federal supremacy as it pertains
to the legality of state medical marijuana laws is not at issue
here."

Since 1996, nine states - Alaska, Arizona, California,
Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Nevada, Oregon and Washington - have
adopted legislation exempting patients who use marijuana under
their doctor's supervision from criminal penalties under state
law. To date, federal officials have not challenged the legality
of any of those measures. Justice Department officials did
initially threaten to sanction physicians who recommended marijuana
to their patients in accordance with state law. However, a federal
court enjoined the government from doing so, finding that a
physician's right to discuss marijuana therapy with a patient
is constitutionally protected. Justice officials later filed a
civil suit in federal court against six California medical
marijuana dispensaries, including the Oakland club. The Oakland
Cooperative, which continues to operate as a patient resource
center but no longer distributes medical marijuana, was the
sole defendant in today's case.

For more information, please contact Keith Stroup, NORML
Executive Director, at (202) 483-5500.


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posted on 03-29-2001 @ 11:11 AM      
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They should legalize it. It works beautifully in cancer patients to enhance appetite and to ease the nausea experienced with chemo. As a person that works in health care I can tell you that tobacco and alcohol are probably worse culprits, but there are no big corporations lobbying in Washington for marijuana use.
In fact, if anyone on this thread is from NJ and is knowledgeable about this subject please reply c and I'll give you my e-mail to reply directly.

Rog2K
posted on 03-29-2001 @ 12:25 PM      
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quote:

there are no big corporations lobbying in Washington for marijuana use


BINGO! We have a winner!

What's worse, cigarettes, alcohol, or marajuana?
(only one of these has medicinal value...)



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Rommel
posted on 03-29-2001 @ 12:32 PM      
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not all of us have as much money as the stupid fucking republicans who are too set in their ways to change anything...


Corpse, this hasn't anything to do with a political party's position . Regardless of who is in the HOUSE, marijuana won't be legalized because of companies like DuPont who see pot as a threat to their "plastics" empire. Hemp blows this industrial revolution's "wonder" away, and the many uses of hemp would reduce their revenues over the long run, thereby threatening the very existence of this mega-corporation.

back in the '60's during the height of the "Great Society" model, getting caught with a joint would've gotton you thrown in the slammer for God knows how long. And remember, the country was being lead by Dems. Eight years of Reagan, 4 years of Bush, 8 years of Clinton, nothing changes dude.... I say what the fuck , we're used to it, and we'll still have our smokes, so FUCK THEM ALL..... :)



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This message was edited by Rommel on 3-29-01 @ 12:46 PM
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posted on 03-29-2001 @ 12:59 PM      
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Rommel, thats the funny thing, it is still illegal but most of us here could probably find pot in less than two hours. So, it really hasn't affected our lives.

This this shows how stupid the govt is b/c the war on drugs isnt and never was working. They should have realized this by now and taken steps to leagalize pot. They could regulate it, have it grown in our own country, tax it and it could help stimulate the economy(i know this is a pipe dream but it makes sense). The same thing applies to prostitution....it still happens, so why not legalize, regualte it, tax the income, and make it safer(ie. blood tests and get the girls off the streets).

I don't understand why things cant be done practically in this country.

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posted on 03-29-2001 @ 7:57 PM      
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i am gonna have to agree with bannerclicker. you can basically get pot whenever you want, and as long as your not selling you just get a slap on the wrist.

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Tequila
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posted on 03-29-2001 @ 8:06 PM      
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tequila stop dreaming dude

Just to let you all know I have never touched the stuff. I just thought it was funny that it is even being considered


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