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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: Stupid Question: The Death of Heros | ||||
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| Arthur Dent | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 9:29 AM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 00  | There is currently a big debate going on about wether or not the current trend of seeing favorite characters die heroicly is a good one. From Capt. Kirk to Doyle on "Angel" to a favorite Star Wars character (won't spoil it for those who haven't read the book), the recent trend in movies, books, and TV is to "increase" the drama and realism of the story by killing off major characters. So, what do you think about this trend? Do you enjoy seeing your favorite characters go out in a blaze of glory, or would you rather have them immortal and always survive to fight another day? ::For those who want to discuss characters who died in stuff people may not have seen/read, start your post with ****SPOILER ABOUT (NAME STORY)**** ::  'Anyone who is capable of being elected president should on no account be allowed to do the job' - The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy Arthur smiled at him wanly and shrugged again. He turned and smiled wanly at the rest of the pub just in case any of them had heard what was going on. None of them had, and none of them could understand what he was smiling at them for. | ||||
| Mi1o Yambag | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 9:49 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Well, if we're talking about tv shows, actors leave often. I'd rather see them die then just randomly disappear. As for the heroes of movies dying, i love it. It's still a reletively fresh idea, having the main hero die, and its certainly a welcome change from the happy, bubble gum endings in lots of movies.  A friend with weed is a friend indeed. A friend without it is a friend in need. "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." --Abraham Lincoln "Make the most of hemp seed, sow it everywhere." --George Washington | ||||
| Opie696 G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Soldier of Fortune Spec Ops Division | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 10:01 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | THat whole thing with Doyle being killed off on Angel still pisses me off. He was my favorite character on the show. I only watch the show every once and a while now.   This message was edited by Opie696 on 4-17-01 @ 10:07 AM | ||||
| Arthur Dent | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 10:24 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 00 | I read an interview with the actor who played Doyle. He was told from Day 1 that his character was going to die near the end of the forst season. It was all a set-up to give Cordelia the visions and just make for a great story. Fans have been petitioning ever since to bring Doyle back form the dead. Pretty easy considering how many characters have died and come back (Angel, Darla, etc.) That is one episode I would really like to see. 'Anyone who is capable of being elected president should on no account be allowed to do the job' - The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy Arthur smiled at him wanly and shrugged again. He turned and smiled wanly at the rest of the pub just in case any of them had heard what was going on. None of them had, and none of them could understand what he was smiling at them for. | ||||
| squidink | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 10:28 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | Shit, I missed a couple weeks of Angel, when did Doyle get killed??? ONE OF REDDOGS PUPPIES | ||||
| Arthur Dent | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 10:33 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 00 | Squidink, uhm...your kidding right? It was 1st season. Like two or three years ago. The half-human/half-demon guy with the Irish accent. | ||||
| Doc Smith I Love Anthony Zinni | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 11:13 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | Hey, I still can't believe they killed Superman (then had a really crappy coming-back-to-life storyline) Side Note: Milo, don't mess with me man, for a second, I thought Skutt had returned to the board  | ||||
| HUDSON | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 11:20 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | I was a little irate when they killed Robin 2 in the Batman comic book. Also I was a bit put off with the entire Spock death and rebirth in the Star Trek movies  "Don't you know? A clown can get away with Murder!" -John Wayne Gacy Grabmyjunk in another dimension | ||||
| Mi1o Yambag | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 11:25 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: Sorry about that bro. I figued that at 1000 posts, it was about time for a new sig pic. Since my original one was Scooby Doo smoking a bowl, I thought I'd go back to the old theme. A friend with weed is a friend indeed. A friend without it is a friend in need. "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." --Abraham Lincoln "Make the most of hemp seed, sow it everywhere." --George Washington | ||||
| Sloatsburgh | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 12:07 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | DILLON! Now that was a favorite character who died off, or did he die because he was a martian? Or are you also refering to the millon of women who cried when Marcus (B5) was killed off. I just saw a portion of FarScape and it looks as though the hot blue chick died..... And for Star Wars, is it Yoda? Please don't tell me it was Yoda!  "I use you for good board I'm not your friend" Guided by Dryblood. | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 12:24 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | Sloats, Yoda died in "Jedi" peacefully. I don't think it's that bad whne heroes died but will get into it later.  Anxiously awaiting more details on American Psycho II, I hope it works. | ||||
| King f-tard | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 12:35 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | Wow a B5 reference, cool. What about when Valerie Harper was killed off on the Hogan family, and was replaced by Sandy Duncan. And its a little scary that so many of you watch Angel..  | ||||
| The Brain | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 12:39 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | quote: Why? Nothing's wrong with Angel... of course, when Jessica Alba and Dark Angel came along, all bets were off... ;) But I think it is a surprising and refreshing change of pace when the good guys aren't allowed to be immortal. It makes their war against evil that much more convincing, because after all heroes die in real life for their causes, so why not so in fantasy comics and TV/movies?  "ARE YOU PONDERING WHAT I'M PONDERING?" | ||||
| FoundryMusicMatt | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 1:24 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Dec. 00 | ************SPOILER 15 MINUTES*********** I know that when I saw 15 Minutes, which was a great movie, I was really thrown for a loop when Robert DeNiro died. While watching that segment, I had the mindset "this is all meaningless because you KNOW he's gonna live." Then he does his little resistance and i'm thinking "see, here it is, his miraculous escape." And then when the russian stabs him i was QUITE surprised. I really didn't think they'd kill off one of hte main characters, and a good guy at that. I think it's a good trend, it makes the story seem more realistic as other people have said.  Now taking Applications... | ||||
| Arthur Dent | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 2:17 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 00 | ***********SPOILER FOR Star Wars - New Jedi Order : Vector Prime************** In the first of the New Jedi Order novels, Chewbacca is killed just after saving Anakin's (Leia & Han's youngest son) life when a moon is forced to collide with the planet he is on. 'Anyone who is capable of being elected president should on no account be allowed to do the job' - The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy Arthur smiled at him wanly and shrugged again. He turned and smiled wanly at the rest of the pub just in case any of them had heard what was going on. None of them had, and none of them could understand what he was smiling at them for. | ||||
| FeelMyFunBags | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 2:30 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | I somewhat like them killing the heros in a way. I think that it is kind of more honorable to die a hero than disappear. To go out in a moment of glory or to die like a man...fighting.  How I'm craving you, yeah! Every time I'm near you I always want to swallow you down I'll be right here if ya' need me In my life, I'll need you here, don't ask why I'll never disappear | ||||
| GonzoStyle | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 2:41 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | quote: lol Doc that was the first thought that came to mind. I loved skutt's sig pic man i miss the fooker. I am not into all the stuff ouse are discussing but i was real sad when scar killed mufasa in lion king. That was really sad i cried like a child getting rammed in the ass with a meat clever.  And The Earth Becomes My Throne I Adapt To The Unknown By Myself But Not Alone. I Ask No One And My Ties Are Severed Clean The Less I Have The More I Gain Off The Beaten Path I Reign She-Mail Me Here | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 3:23 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | I don't mind when heroes die because heros are men and men die. It kind of throws you through a loop when the main hero is killed off but it shows that sometimes the bad guys do win. How about the ending to The Professional? And F-tard there is a number of closet Buffy/Angel watchers. Anxiously awaiting more details on American Psycho II, I hope it works. This message was edited by IkeaBoy on 4-17-01 @ 3:26 PM | ||||
| Brokenjaw Always will bow down to the power of the Faceman!!!! | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 3:40 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 00 | Hell killing off the hero is the best way to end a series or have a character leave one.I wish they would kill more people off on tv and the movies. Oh well thats just me though. | ||||
| Arthur Dent | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 5:54 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 00 | Goodnight folks. Going home to see how Buffy and Dawn deal with the death of their mother and the further adventures of Angel and the gang. Stay tuned tomorrow for another Stupid Question... 'Anyone who is capable of being elected president should on no account be allowed to do the job' - The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy Arthur smiled at him wanly and shrugged again. He turned and smiled wanly at the rest of the pub just in case any of them had heard what was going on. None of them had, and none of them could understand what he was smiling at them for. | ||||
| King f-tard | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 8:51 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Feb. 01 | Ikeaboy, I gues you are right, I mean who am I to talk, My fionce (how DO you spell that) and I watch Dawsons Creek every wednesday. | ||||
| bluetarp | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 9:02 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | I really appreciate it when a major character can get killed off, and stay dead. As has been said many times, it adds a respectability to the story. A little integrity, that the good guy can get killed. Now, we need more stories where the bad guy wins. Some people think I'm a psycho, everybody else knows it! | ||||
| Is Don on the phone? | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 9:27 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 01 | I think I'd watch Survivor more if they'd just kill some of those charachters off... AIM:isdononthephone | ||||
| IAmMighty | posted on 04-17-2001 @ 9:33 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00 | Sometimes it's better to have a great character die, than to be ruined in awful sequels. "Did you punch her in the bunt!?" | ||||
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