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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 07-28-2001 @ 4:34 AM      
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Fla. Teen Gets 28 Years for Killing

By Amanda Riddle
Associated Press Writer
Friday, July 27, 2001; 1:11 p.m. EDT

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- A 14-year-old boy who shot to death his favorite teacher in a rage on the last day of school was sentenced Friday to 28 years in prison.

Nathaniel Brazill, who was tried as an adult, had faced at least a 25-year minimum sentence and up to life in prison for killing Barry Grunow at Lake Worth Middle School on May 26, 2000.

Brazill, wearing a bright red jumpsuit and shackles, showed little emotion as Circuit Judge Richard Wennet rendered his decision.

The 28-year sentence is without the possibility of parole or time off for good behavior.

In issuing the sentence, Wennet had to decide whether the teen would be a danger to society or could be rehabilitated. But he made no public comment on his reasoning for imposing the 28-year sentence.

The judge ordered the teen to earn his high school diploma, take an anger management course and spend two years in a halfway house after completing his sentence. He also will serve five years' probation.

Defense lawyer Robert Udell said the family will appeal and will not seek clemency until the appeals process was completed.

"I can tell you he's pleased. Nathaniel just wanted to know if there is a light at the end of the tunnel," Udell said. The defense had sought the minimum 25-year term. Brazill's family rejected a plea deal of 25 years offered by prosecutors before the trial.

Kay Grunow, the victim's sister, said she was "extremely disappointed" with the sentence, calling it "an insult to Barry's memory."

Brazill was tried as an adult and convicted in May of second-degree murder for killing the 35-year-old English teacher he called a "great man and a great teacher."

Brazill had returned to school after being suspended by a counselor earlier that day for throwing water balloons. He shot Grunow after the teacher refused to let the seventh-grader talk to two girls in his class.

At a daylong sentencing hearing Thursday, Brazill apologized for the first time, telling the judge: "Words cannot really explain how sorry I am, but they're all I have."

Brazill insisted, however, as he did during his trial, that he didn't mean to hurt his teacher.

In urging a life sentence, Grunow's mother and two brothers said Brazill was a danger to society and must be punished for the murder.

"This was not an accident. I think Nathaniel should be punished to the fullest extent of the law," Phyllis Grunow, the victim's mother, said at Thursday's hearing. "I don't think any family should have to go through this."

Brazill's mother, Polly Powell, also testified Thursday, sobbing and wiping away tears as she asked the Grunow family for forgiveness and begged the judge to be lenient.

"Nathaniel is my first born and I love him like nobody else can. I just ask you that you please have mercy on him," Powell said.

A defense witness testified that Brazill was a "pot boiling over" following his suspension and after years of silence about physical abuse of his mother by boyfriends.

"All this other stuff was exploding inside of him," said Jacqueline Patterson, deputy superintendent of Milwaukee schools.

Asked why Grunow was targeted, child psychologist James Gabarino, a Cornell University professor, testified that Brazill was in such a frenzy over his love life and the suspension that who the victim was "may not have mattered."

Prosecutor Marc Shiner asked for a life sentence, but made a second recommendation of 40 years in prison and probation should the judge not sentence Brazill to life.

"This young man deserves to spend the rest of his life in jail without parole," Shiner said. "That's the only way we can be sure he won't hurt someone again."

Grunow's widow, Pam, told the judge that she didn't have a sentencing recommendation to the court but described her husband as a wonderful father with many friends and students who cared greatly for him.

"At home he enjoyed working in his garden and being Daddy," she said. "He was devoted to us. We were his priority."



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posted on 07-28-2001 @ 4:47 AM      
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The teacher had it comin' to 'em.



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posted on 07-28-2001 @ 6:51 PM      
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Hey, it was society's fault. The village didn't raise him right. It was the violent images in video games. It was Marilyn Manson and Snoop Doggy Dogg, and reality television, and the fact that he had to stay in school from 9am to 3pm. There was an earthquake, a terrible flood....


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posted on 07-28-2001 @ 6:56 PM      
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i can't believe i made trhough h. s. without killing any of my teachers



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posted on 07-29-2001 @ 12:37 AM      
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I don't mean to go off on a rant, but the problem with school shootings like such, in my opinion, is that there aren't enough guidance councelors or teachers who give a shit about the kids. All they care about are their paychecks.

Also with school budgets being cut left and right, classes being overcrowded, extra curricular activities being eliminated and all, the kids really suffer in the end. School becomes more of a prison term than an environment of learning and growing.

There needs to be a faculty who cares about the children's need instead of following an out-of-date protocol for public schooling. People also have to realize that it cost money to teach children and complaining about taxes makes the community worse off in the long run.

That's what I think.

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posted on 07-29-2001 @ 12:50 AM      
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i never got, or will i ever get why when a guy kills someone, he doesnt serve his life in jail. 28 years?...that means he will still be alive when the term is over, defeating the purpose of the sentence. I say, if you kill someone, you should get killed yourself, or serve your ENTIRE life in jail

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posted on 07-29-2001 @ 2:27 AM      
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I'm with ClusterF, man.... 28 years is NOT JUSTICE for blatant murder.

Have you guys actually SEEN the video of this kid shooting his teacher? I have. He knew what he was doing. The only influence from rappers or movies that he had was that he knew exactly how to hold the gun to make it look just like they do.... but hey, to paraphrase Pete Townshend, if a song tells a guy to go shoot up a school, he was probably enough of an asshole to just do it anyway.

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posted on 07-29-2001 @ 2:50 AM      
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I blame irreverant radio shows...I mean.....


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posted on 07-29-2001 @ 3:05 AM      
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I agree he should have gotten a lot more time I'm just glad they didn't give em lock him up till he's 18 and then let him free.



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posted on 07-29-2001 @ 3:05 AM      
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posted on 07-29-2001 @ 3:12 AM      
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I agree.


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posted on 07-29-2001 @ 3:16 AM      
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I blame the parents. I know, I'm taking a novel approach. But call me crazy for holding the parents responsible....


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posted on 07-29-2001 @ 3:28 AM      
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posted on 07-29-2001 @ 9:39 AM      
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The ironic thing is that the family of Nathanial Brazil was relieved that he got 28 years, but will appeal it anyway to see if it can be reduced. I know that parents must feel for their children, but when your child kills a man in cold blood?

Well, at least he's not in school again in September.


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