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hornygoatweed
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posted on 12-03-2001 @ 2:40 PM      
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Can anyone here recommend a good after market DVD drive? I've got a Dell 52x drive, works fine, no complaints. I've just got it in my head that I wanna max out my system. I've gone as fast as I can on the CPU (1ghz), maxed out the memory (768), now I'd like to max out the cd drive. Also, is a decoder card a requirement/better to have? Or can I use my GeForce2 MXII card on its own? I'm looking to up that as well to a GF3 Ti500 card, but I don't have the cash - yet.


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posted on 12-03-2001 @ 3:47 PM      
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I suggest you get a good MPEG decoder card. I have this one:

Sigma Hollywood Plus
Buy the card here

I have the card hooked up to a TV and I bought the Remote Control add on for about $30.

I like the Pioneer and Toshiba DVD drives.



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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 12-03-2001 @ 4:58 PM      
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Don't bet an MPEG decoder. They are useless if you fast processor like you do. As for a drive I really like Pioneer.


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hornygoatweed
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posted on 12-03-2001 @ 5:05 PM      
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quote:

Don't bet (get) an MPEG decoder. They are useless if you (have a) fast processor like you do


So you're saying my CPU can handle the DVD playback over a card? I'm somewhat stupefied when it comes to DVD-ROM stuff, as I have absolutely NO experience with any DVD-based hardware for the computer. I always thought a card was necessary to avoid clipping and for best video playback. Do these drives also rate at a cd-rom speed (like 50x)?
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As for a drive I really like Pioneer.

Funny you say that AM - lurking in another forum I found this brand to be a much-loved drive. There is even a regionless firmware app available making this a VERY attractive drive to me.



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This message was edited by hornygoatweed on 12-3-01 @ 8:17 PM
adolescentmasturbator
posted on 12-03-2001 @ 8:06 PM      
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When you have a fast processor it can handle software rendering just fine. As for cd-rom speeds the Pioneers are pretty good at that too. They would be my recommendation. They are really well made and rock solid.


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posted on 12-03-2001 @ 8:39 PM      
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i agree w/ AM... i use the decoder card on the shitty PII 266 computer.



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posted on 12-03-2001 @ 8:53 PM      
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Well since I'm at a good CPU speed, no need to take up another PCI slot - thanks for the info! I'm looking at a Pioneer 116, looks really nice, slot loading, and from what I have read it has gotten very favorable reviews.


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posted on 12-03-2001 @ 9:19 PM      
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HGW, I have a pioneer and have had absolutely no problems in over a year with it. Some comp. mag did a review of both the Toshiba and Pioneer drives and found them both nearly identical as far as performance. Good luck....p.s if anyone has a bangbus.com password could you e-mail it to me? It sounds crazy. thanks. OnAfan12@hotmail.com

DasDoomper
posted on 12-11-2001 @ 9:22 AM      
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If you don't have a video-out on your video card and you want to watch DVD movies on your TV, you will need a decoder board. Otherwise, most current video cards will have no problem running DVD movies.



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hornygoatweed
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posted on 12-11-2001 @ 9:47 AM      
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I don't need a TV out, I've got a standalone player in my home theater setup. I'm just looking to max out my PC, and I figured it was about time I got a decent DVD drive (so I can actually access the dvd-rom crap on most of my movies). I'm gonna go with the Pioneer drive, its just a matter of ordering it - now if I could find a GF3 Ti500 for under $300 I'd be all set...


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posted on 12-11-2001 @ 7:54 PM      
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You can pick up a gf3 ti500 HERE for about $280.



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posted on 12-12-2001 @ 11:57 AM      
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quote:


Introduction

In an interesting shift away from their usual release schedule, NVIDIA introduced the GeForce3 Ti 200 a product different in both design and positioning. Instead of duplicating their GeForce2 MX experiment, whereby the actual core was modified from 4 to 2 pixel pipelines, the GeForce3 Ti 200 is the same chip as in previous GeForce3 products, but with lower core and memory speeds. Instead of lowering the core specs like they did with the GeForce2 MX, NVIDIA has just lowered the reference design specs instead.

This makes the GeForce3 Ti 200 perhaps the most interesting NVIDIA release in some time and helps define a whole new level of performance for the mid-range market. No longer do gamers have to wait for the next NVIDIA release and then hope GeForce3 prices lower enough to buy a new board. NVIDIA has already done that work for us, and inserted the GeForce3 Ti 200 right between the GeForce2 ULTRA and GeForce3. While this likely due to competition from ATI, it's still nice to see this sort of gamer friendly product being released in the first place.




3D Prophet III Titanium 200 Overclocking

The GeForce2 Ti 200 is one of the prime overclocking targets these days and with good reason. The initial spec for the GeForce3 called for a 200 MHz GPU, while the GeForce3 Ti 200 GPU is only running at 175 MHz. Do you think that NVIDIA changed their GeForce3 manufacturing process or maybe some of these are actually underclocked chips that could in fact run at 200 MHz.

The other part of the equation is memory speed, which is a bit more difficult to quantify. The default memory speed of the GeForce3 Ti 200 is 400 MHz DDR and the minimum specification is 5 ns DDR memory. That's riding right on the edge of the default memory speed, though as we found with the VisionTek Xtasy 6564, this memory can go a bit higher. In the case of the Hercules 3D Prophet III Titanium 200, the news is a bit better and the card itself is advertised as having 4 ns DDR memory.

Throughout the benchmarking, we concentrated on the 500 MHz memory speeds, but left the core at the 175 MHz default. There is an important reason for this, as well as a distinction to be made. Hercules freely promotes the 3D Prophet III Titanium 200 as sporting 4 ns memory capable of 500 MHz memory operation, so we simply took them at their word. No higher specifications or ratings are given to the core itself, so we left that as is.

That was then and this is now. In the overclocking section, we freely jack both the core and memory rates to see what kind of speeds we can eke out of the hardware. We had already taken the memory to 500 MHz, so we concentrated on the core speed. Immediately taking this to the NVIDIA reference driver limit of 220 MHz went off without a hitch, so there we were with a card sporting 220 MHz core/500 MHz memory speeds and the sliders maxed out already. Using NVMAX, we were able to increase both the core and memory speeds a bit more to around the 230/515 level and decided to call it a day after running it through a serious torture test.

One important note is the core heat, or lack thereof, generated by the 3D Prophet III Titanium 200. After overclocking it to 220 MHz and running through a half-hour of Quake 3 and multiples runs of 3DMark 2001, we were prepared for some ambient heat from the card. Surprisingly, the card was hardly warmer than when running at standard speeds. This can either be attributed to a more robust cooling solution, or another log on the fire concerning rumors that NVIDIA may or may supply higher quality cores to certain vendors. Either way you slice it, our review card must have a primo core easily on par with a GeForce3.



so as you can see, chances are that if you buy a gf3 ti200 from a company such as Hercules you will actually be getting an underclocked gf3 ti500... so go out and buy a Hercules 3D Prophet III Titanium 200 and overclock that mofo to 200/500 (clock speeds ti500 ships with) or even 220/500.



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hornygoatweed
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posted on 12-12-2001 @ 12:15 PM      
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Nice! I knew the Ti200 cards were a good deal, but thats a sweet deal!

And just how did my thread about DVD drives turn into a Vid card thread? LMAO!!

On another note, if anyone lives near the Raritan Convention Center in Edison NJ, theres a big PC show going on this Sat & Sun. I've mentioned it in a few threads here and there when they come around, and thought that if you knew the place and were free this weekend you might wanna swing by and score some deals either for yourself or for someone else as a Christmas gift (I'm going for both reasons) If you know what you're looking for, chances are they'll have it, and for a better price than you might find online (sometimes). Just spreading the word.


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FoundryMusicHummercash
posted on 12-12-2001 @ 12:24 PM      
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my only warning to you is this: buy a brand name card like Hercules... I wouldn't trust any of the generic brands... nvidia prolly sends them all of the unstable chips that are having heat problems and shit ;)



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hornygoatweed
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posted on 12-17-2001 @ 3:06 PM      
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OK, I bought a drive this weekend (Its a LiteOn drive, I saw a few Pioneer drives, but they were OEM - and since it was a fair, I really didn't trust them). The LiteOn was brand new sealed in the box, and got just as good reviews as the Pioneer.

My new question is what DVD software are you guys using? The drive shipped with powerDVD 3, and I had to download a patch to get it to work with XP (even though I tried it and it seemed to work before I applied the patch - but I went and applied it to be safe). However in both cases, the video looks somewhat "fuzzy", like soft - I have seen dvd video on other machines, and it generally looks nice and sharp. I have looked into the config within the program, but the only option I can see that might help is enabling the hardware accelerator (in my case, my graphics card I would assume), but it is grayed out. The PowerDVD site says that this function is not enabled in NT or Win2K (and XP is basically the same as these two, at its core anyway) so I cannot use it.

Is there another software app I can use? I have heard some good things about WinDVD for video quality, but I wanted to hear from people that actually use the software.

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This message was edited by hornygoatweed on 12-17-01 @ 5:08 PM
FoundryMusicHummercash
posted on 12-17-2001 @ 4:40 PM      
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i use powerdvd 4.... im sure u can find a 'demo' version here. 3 downloads down on the right hand side.



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This message was edited by FoundryMusicHummercash on 12-17-01 @ 4:41 PM
hornygoatweed
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posted on 12-18-2001 @ 12:56 AM      
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Thanks Hummer - worked like a charm!

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