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posted on 03-17-2002 @ 8:43 PM      
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Hey, I thought people would like to see this as the matches get over and done with and as was per requested by Froy... Gak gak gak.

First Update: The First Three Matches

1st Match: Intercontinental Championship

RVD VS William Regal

RVD and Regal put on a great show for the fans and ended with RVD kicking the brass knucks out of Regals hand then hits the 5 star frog splash for the win!
Winner: New Intercontinental Champion RVD

2nd Match: European Championship
Christian VS DDP
DDP and Christian was an okay match, and the fans actually seemed to like DDP more. Diamond Cutter for the 1-2-3!

Winner: Retaining the championship DDP

3rd Match: Hardcore Championship
Goldust VS Maven

Both wrestlers go back and forth... a few spots were blown... other than that an okay match.

Winner: Spike Dudley

-Ran into the match while both were down and pinned Maven for the title with crash soon following suit! All four ran off into the crowd!

-Back from a small break when Spike Dudley is trying to find a place to hide so he can keep the hardcore title when The Hurricane swings on a rope and hits Spike to then pin him for the title!! The Hurricane just won the Hardcore Title!

4th Match
Kurt Angle VS Kane

Very Long and Physical Match with both wrestlers selling each others moves very well. Chokeslams and ankle locks galore with Kane getting Olympic Slamed and then just simply overpowered for the win with Angle's feet on the ropes!

Winner: Kurt Angle

5th Match Ric Flair VS Undertaker No Disqualification Match

To start off, Ric Flair is in full wrestling attire and wastes no time by running in to challenge the Underbiker. Chops exchanged between the two of them when both start to get really bloody from beating the hell out of each other. To regain the advantage in the no DQ match, Flair decides to take a pipe from Undertaker's motorcycle and beat the Deadman with the steel. After a beating, Taker roars back and disarms Flair and beats him down some more. Then out of nowhere comes Arn Anderson to deliver a spinebuster to the Undertaker! However, Taker punishes Anderson and fucks him up some while Flair comes to assist his friend with a chair. He gets in a few shots then gets rewarded with a boot to the face by Taker. Set up for the Tombstone... and it's over Johnny. 1-2-3!

Winner: The Undertaker

6th Match: Booker T VS. Edge
Lots of back and forth between the two throughout the match. However their was one huge hurricarana that was completely fucked up by Edge and looked like it really hurt both him and Booker. Soon the Bookman took advantage and does the famous Spinarooni! Edge fights back and mocks Booker by doing the Edgeehrooni and to follow up with a painfull spear! Top it all off with an Edgecution, 1-2-3!!

Winner: Edge

7th Match

Scott Hall VS Stone Cold Steve Austin

The beginning of the match started with Kevin Nash coming down with Scott Hall... both interfered and ffed with Austin.. Austin came back and stunned both for the win!

Winner: Stone Cold Steve Austin

Mighty Molly has the Hardcore title and is walking through the building... a door comes out of nowhere and floors her... Christian was on the other side! He pins her with the ref... 1-2-3!

Christian is now the Hardcore Champion!

8th Match:
Tag Team Fourway
Apa eliminated first... then Dudleys, and it came down to the Hardys VS Chuck and Billy. Billy with the belt to Matt Hardy and 123!

Winners: Chuck and Billy Retaining

9th Match: Rock VS Hogan

Simply a classic match. Hogan started to own rock... rock started to own hogan. rock bottom from Hogan to rock! Rock bottom from Rock to Hogan x2! Hulk HULKED up!! Leg Drop on Rock! Rock bottom to Hogan... people's Elbow on Hogan for the 123!

Winner: The Rock

After the match Hall and Nash get pissed at Hogan for giving Rock props... they came and started to beat on Hogan. Rock came back and saved Hogan. NWO is now without Hogan it seems!

10th Match: Women's Championship
Lita VS. Trish VS. Jazz

Who really cares? Pretty good eye candy with Trish... that's about it.

Winner: Jazz Retains

Christian is trying to take a taxi out of Toronto in the parking lot... when Maven comes out from behind and hits him in the doorway of the taxi rolling him up for the 1-2-3!

Maven gets back the Hardcore championship he lost in the beginning of the night!

11th Match: The WWF Undisputed Championship

Great match overall. Hard really to describe other than really back and forth between the two for a hell of a long time of beating the shit out of each other. Jericho mainly went after Trips leg to take him out fast.

Trips gets tired of Stephanie's constant interfering (No angle of them getting back together) and pedigrees her! More back and forth between the two and then Trips finally takes out Jericho with the pedigree to end the match and
1-2-3!!!

Tripple H is now the WWF Undisputed Champion!!

END SHOW!!



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posted on 03-17-2002 @ 8:50 PM      
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Don't forget about the Rock making an asshole out of himself.

*Edit* Ric Flair is a trooper. He's as old as the hills but he'll still take a beating. The Undertaker is just tearing him up right now. It's pretty ugly.


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posted on 03-17-2002 @ 9:20 PM      
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This sucks so far, why do they always make the Hardcore Matches shit?? There are guys that actually know how to make a good hardcore match backstage. Raven, Steve Blackman & Perry Saturn aren't being used. They should have brought those guys back. The IC Title Match was OK, the Euro Title was decent too. But when it comes to a WrestleMania type match, these have sucked so far.


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posted on 03-17-2002 @ 9:42 PM      
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quote:

Raven, Steve Blackman & Perry Saturn aren't being used.


Raven is currently working for HWA along with Stevie Richards, Hugh Morrus, and Shawn Stasiak. Steve Blackman is still suffering from back problems and may not return at all. Perry Saturn is stuck in dark match hell for whatever reason.


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posted on 03-17-2002 @ 10:01 PM      
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quote:

Perry Saturn is stuck in dark match hell for whatever reason.

From what I understand, he's been in the WWF doghouse for a while now because he wrestled "too stiff", and injured some jobbers after they missed some spots. It's a shame too, he's probably the best wrestler they've got. Sucks that they punish people that care more about their wrestling matches than about coming up with a witty new catch phrase.




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posted on 03-17-2002 @ 11:05 PM      
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i cant believe hogan lost. :(


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posted on 03-17-2002 @ 11:21 PM      
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DAMN how hot does Steph look tonight???? What a rack !!!!

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posted on 03-17-2002 @ 11:33 PM      
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i cant believe hogan lost



There was no way in hell he was going to win that match. Not a chance.


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posted on 03-17-2002 @ 11:45 PM      
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There was no way in hell he was going to win that match. Not a chance.

I said the same thing right after Hogan pinned the Rock with the Leg Drop on RAW. No way they would book the same ending again.
They gave him his one win over the Rock in exchange for jobbing at Wrestlemania.



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posted on 03-17-2002 @ 11:50 PM      
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My kids could not believe that I knew exactly when: Hogan was going to drop "the big leg", Hogan was going to turn "face" by shaking Rock's hand, Hogan was going to get his ass kicked by N.W.O., Rock was going to make Hogan do the ear thing. Christ was that match from 1987? Boy did Vince mail that one in..........

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posted on 03-18-2002 @ 12:03 AM      
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I think the highlight of Wrestlemania was hearing the fans turn on Rocky, even chanting "Rocky Sucks" a couple of times. Jim Lost was unintentionally hilarious in trying to cover up the fans booing Rock and cheering Hogan, before he basically gave up about halfway through the match.

Oh, and Ric Flair is still the man. Fuck anyone who says he's too old, he put on the best performance of the night. That match, while not mind blowingly great, was still better than it should have been, and probably the best match of the night.



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posted on 03-18-2002 @ 12:36 AM      
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I have to agree, the Flair match was great. I didnt think that AA could do the spine buster anymore, much less do it that good. Ending it with a Tombstone was a fitting way to end it.

I am speechless about the Hogan match, i thought it was awesome until the very end. After that, i didnt even wanna watch the rest of the show.

RVD new champ: Thank God Regal lost.

Edge sucks and is getting the most undeserved push outside of Maven.

Hardcore title marathon was quite funny, especially the Molly getting knocked out my Christian spot.

Tag Team match was too long, but solid. At least the APA lost first.

DDP vs Christian was very good IMO, it didnt steal the show, but it was good for what it was worth.

HHH...i was sure the WWF would make him join NWO after the Hogan fiaasco to save the night. Where the fuck does this leave Jericho, and wasnt the NWO supposed to be dominating?? Hall and Nash arent exactly great to have if they are the only ones there.

Austin stunning Hall 2 times in a row was hilarious.

I understand the order of the matches because of the concerts they had. They had 2 seperate shows pretty much, with the Austin match as the first main event, and the HHH match as the 2nd main event. Of course the Hogan match shouldve been last, but i cant bash the WWF for putting HHH last because that was for the undisputed title.

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posted on 03-18-2002 @ 1:10 AM      
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quote:

4th Match
Kurt Angle VS Kane

Very Long and Physical Match
Winner by Feet on the Ropes: Angle

I didn't see any feet on the ropes. It looked like Angle was supposed to win by a neat little roll-up, small package type deal, but got fucked up, so it was just finished off by hooking the leg for a pin, even though Kane wasn't really hurt at the time.

This was just one of many complete fuck-ups of the night.

The Undertaker couldn't even give The Last Ride to Flair, who weighs in at about 180, and that's including the 40 pounds of flab hanging off his pecs. The second time he tried, he could barely lift Flair off the ground. He finished with an unrehearsed Tombstone, where it looked like Flair's head hit the mat pretty hard. Ugly, ugly match.

I'll have to watch it again, but it looked like the ref counted to three before Deisel was able to pull the ref out of the ring when SCSA was pinning Razor. And Ramon did the most pitiful Stunner on Austin that i've ever seen ... Stone Cold should have gotten up, bitchslapped him, and force-fed that retard a few cans of Bud.

Hogan turning face was way too obvious when he told Diesel and Razor not to interfere. I predicted slighty wrong though ... i thought NWO would interfere during the match, it would piss off Hulk, and there would be no winner. But they had to give the match to Rock. Please, after Hogan kicked out after being Rock Bottomed, not a single person in the audience was rooting for Rocky.

Why the hell did they make Trish fight two men?

Highlight of the night, as always, was Hurricane. Behind the dressing screen with the broom watching the Godfather's hoes was one of the funniest scenes ever ... especially when the Godfather came in and started tugging on the broom handle. Give this guy the Championship, his act beats all these other clowns.

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posted on 03-18-2002 @ 1:45 AM      
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quote:

I think the highlight of Wrestlemania was hearing the fans turn on Rocky, even chanting "Rocky Sucks" a couple of times.

It's about time..it's only been 2+ years in the making.
quote:

Oh, and Ric Flair is still the man

Did he do his patented "i'm climbing to the top rope for the sole purpose of getting bodyslammed off of it, because though I've been wrestling for 25 years, I just don't know any better" move?




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posted on 03-18-2002 @ 7:14 AM      
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quote:

Did he do his patented "i'm climbing to the top rope for the sole purpose of getting bodyslammed off of it, because though I've been wrestling for 25 years, I just don't know any better" move?


of course.


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posted on 03-18-2002 @ 8:02 AM      
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OMG! I'm gonna agree with Sir O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Top two matches of the night were Flair-Undertaker and Hogan-Rock. Who the fuck would have expected that? And usually that'd be a bad thing, but this was a good thing! And, Sir O, they did the exact same thing last year to the Rock in Houston for Austin. It seems the only top star people will wanna boo is the Rock. Maybe he shoulda turned heel last year than Austin.

Only disappointment of the night was HHH-Jericho. Really thought that would have nbeen better, but it was just "pretty good."

Well, whatever, it was a real good show, not as good as last year's greatest WM EVER, but one of the better Wrestlemanias no doubt. I'd put it on par with WM 8 and that "second level" of great but not classic WMs like 3, 10, and last year. I'm sure it will get canned on this board, though, cuz I remember last year's Mania was and cuz people really love to fucking complain when they spend $40.

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posted on 03-18-2002 @ 8:11 AM      
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I enjoyed this Wrestlemania. The Flair and Hogan matches were defintely the best of the night. Glad RVD is now IC champ. WHo will be his first challenger? What happens to jericho and Stephanie after she dumps him?

Guess the NWO is over unless they bring in Steiner, Xpac and if he ever does come back, HBK. That was great what they did for Hogan. This was a much better ending to his career than Vince Russo cursing him out of WCW. I thought they were going to hit his I am a Real American music. This will most likely be his last Wrestlemania as I just do not see him making it another year. He wrestled his best match in years. I see Hogan retiring at Summerslam (Biggest event of the year after Wrestlemania) because it just looks like he cannot go much more.

One match that no one talked about that I liked a lot was Kane vs Angle. It was surprisingly a very good match. Maybe they can have Angle face RVD now. That would be a good feud.

I defintely think the WWF got on the right track. No it was not the greatest Wrestlemania but it was very good and no one should be unhappy with it.

I agree the Rock vs Hogan match should ahve been last, but HHH andd Jericho were wrestling for the unified Heavyweight championship. They want that to take precedence over Rock and Hogan. That match was good but it would have gotten better reactions if it was before Rock and Hogan. It was very anticlimatic.

Raw should be a good show tonight.

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posted on 03-18-2002 @ 11:26 AM      
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No it was not the greatest Wrestlemania but it was very good and no one should be unhappy with it.

*raises hand* Hi. Right here.

This was one of the worst Wrestlemanias I've ever seen, a HUGE disappointment after last year's stellar show. It was about as bad as WM 13, only without the good Austin / Hart match.

Highlights:

1. Flair. Flair CAN carry the proverbial broomstick. I didn't think the Flair / Taker match was that great, but it was a bit better than I thought it would be. If anyone can pull anything out of Taker these days, it's The Greatest Wrestler Ever.

2. Rocky getting booed. Rock is maybe the stalest act going in pro wrestling, and thank GOD the Canadian fans saw this. Rocky's desperately in need of a heel turn, but it won't happen, because the WWF is too chicken shit. They probably figure a dozen people or so won't buy his t-shirts anymore.

I HATE Jim Ross. I hate him more now that I've seen what a sad, pathetic little schill he's become. If you want to see Jim Ross in his prime - it's his run with NWA / WCW, specifically 89-90. He was maybe the best commentator around at that time. Now, he's just a shell of his former self. THOUSANDS of people chanting for Hogan, and screaming "Rocky sucks!", and somehow the crowd is split "50 / 50"? Give it up, the whole babyface announcer bit is played.



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posted on 03-18-2002 @ 11:48 AM      
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How are Nwo going to be powerful like in wcw when they lose all the matches they where in and Hogan leaves.

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posted on 03-18-2002 @ 5:00 PM      
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quote:

And, Sir O, they did the exact same thing last year to the Rock in Houston for Austin. It seems the only top star people will wanna boo is the Rock. Maybe he shoulda turned heel last year than Austin.
True, but there's a big difference. Last year, Rock was booed going into the match against the company's #1 babyface. Some degree of negative heat was to be expected. This year, Rock was booed in a match against a heel Hogan who is supposed to be "cancer" that will "destroy the WWF," after said cancer tried to prematurely end Rock's career less than a month ago. Remember that?

I can just imagine Vince going apeshit backstage when he didn't get the intended Pavlovian response.
quote:

No it was not the greatest Wrestlemania but it was very good and no one should be unhappy with it.
Um, very good? Sorry, I don't see it. I think overall, it was a weak show, and pretty much what I expected going in. Most of the undercard matches were throwaway Raw matches (RVD/Regal, Christian/DDP, Edge/Booker), Austin/Hall stunk, ditto HHH/Jericho. Angle/Kane was decent enough, but again, just a slightly extended Raw match with a badly botched ending that we've seen so many times before.

Gotta love the whole HGH "leg held together by wires" angle. Way to cover for the fact that your new Undisputed Champion is still practically immobile.

Drowning Pool and Saliva suck. I wouldn't want to watch them for free.

And I can't say it enough, Jim Lost has to go. Hell, people used to (rightfully) make fun of Schiavone, but even he was never as bad as JR has become.

Overall, definitely one of the weaker Wrestlemanias, at a time when they really need to deliver big. In my opinion, they failed. But Flair still rules.


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posted on 03-18-2002 @ 5:04 PM      
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Sir O, are you Scott Keith?? I read his rant on wrestlemania on 411wrestling and you and him sound awfully alike. You both didnt care for the show but you both love Flair. While i love Flair too, i think the rest of the show was better than what you are making it out to be. Yes, there were some bad spots, and some screwups, but it was still overall, better than how you put it. Plus, i know the Hogan match wasnt exactly the greatest pure wrestling match ever, but it was a hell of a match to watch just because of the emotions into it. I cant even imagine how it was like to be there live and to watch that match.

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posted on 03-18-2002 @ 5:12 PM      
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Hmm, Scott Keith? Nope, I'm not. In fact, I generally think he's an idiot and haven't read any of his "rants" in a long time.

But still, I stand behind what I said. Besides Hogan/Rock, none of the matches had that big time "aura", with HHH/Jericho being a shining example of how poor booking can ruin a big match before it even takes place.

And the undercard matches were, for the most part, meaningless. I can't blame the wrestlers too much, considering they haven't been given much to work with. But it definitely says something when two guys are fighting a match over shampoo on the biggest night of the year.

Opinions are like assholes...




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posted on 03-18-2002 @ 6:21 PM      
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quote:

Last year, Rock was booed going into the match against the company's #1 babyface. Some degree of negative heat was to be expected. This year, Rock was booed in a match against a heel Hogan who is supposed to be "cancer" that will "destroy the WWF," after said cancer tried to prematurely end Rock's career less than a month ago. Remember that?





Well, Sir O, I am not going to disagree with you that it IS different, no doubt, but in many ways, it is the same. Hulk Hogan, whether you like him or not (and I can't fucking stand him, though I will give credit where credit is due and applaud his work last night), is a legend who is just on par, if not surpassing, Stone Cold's popularity. Yes, he was a heel, but when Ric Flair is a heel, 90% of the audience hopes he kills the good guy, too. This wasn't always the case, but especially in the '90s and from his WWF run on, this was a scientifically proven fact. You know why? Of course you do, because as we both know, Ric Flair is a God among men who should have a country named after him (I hear Iraq might be turned into a parking lot soon, maybe they'll agree to change it to Flair County so that way the US bombers might think it's someplace else?).

Austin got the same treatment as a heel this summer, and the "embarrassment" of the #1 heel being more over as a face than any other performer on the roster forced them to change him face again.

Hogan gets the same treatment, ESPECIALLY in the WWF. As someone I read today said, and it's so true, he worked as a dastardly heel in WCW because WCW fans hated Hogan in reality, since he representd the WWF. So, that half of the crowd that were loyal WCW/NWA fans from the day couldn't stand his fucking guts, almost FORCING them to turn him heel. Of course, there was the other half that defected to Nitro cuz Raw sucked who were original WWF fans, and that was the half of the crowd that cheered him and said "Too Sweet" alot.

But, in the WWF, it is the opposite. EVERYONE who is a devout WWF fan now was likely a person who grew up idolizing the man, so it is the opposite of WCW, and even as a heel, the WWF was FORCED to change him face right away. (It wouldn't surprise me if they knew this going in, and so planned Hogan to go face all along. Of course, ith the way they do things now, it also wouldn't surprise me if they came up with it at 10PM EST last night either.)

So, for the reasons listed above, the fact that Hogan was a heel was almost meaningless, if you look at it strictly from a crowd reaction standpoint. Obviously, imn the grand scheme of things, it was very meaningful, but if you look at it ONLY for who the fans will cheer for, the heel factor makes no difference whatsoever.

Still, to follow up on my Rock point, something about the Rock character makes me think he is the only PROVEN MAJOR star, outside of course of HHH if you put him at that Austin/Rock level, that would get over as a HEEL, not a heel who gets cheered. I don't know if it's because he acts like a heel all the time anyway, or if it's the "pretty boy" syndrome of having your girlfriend drool everytime she sees him that probably caused Shawn Michaels to be so hated even when he was a face at times, or maybe he's stale, or maybe they remember Rocky Maivia blue chipper, or it's just that he's BETTER as a heel, period, but I think he would be over as a TRUE heel. I know he got cheers his last heel run, but that was right after the crowd started loving him in summer '98, so he was still a fresh babyface to cheer for and him turning heel at THAT point was bad timing for it. I think NOW he would get that Shawn Michaels reaction in the DX days, where people chanted "Make him bleed" to his opponents. Well, that's just my opinion anyway. I'm sure they'd still go batshit for the People's Elbow, though, no matter what. Last night proved that thing is BIGGER than the man who authors it.

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posted on 03-18-2002 @ 7:53 PM      
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All good points. It's especially obvious now that Hogan is wrestling teflon, that no matter what he does or what happens he'll always have at least a segment of the audience behind him. What's surprising to me is that after all these years, it's still such a huge segment.

I think the match yesterday also went further to show just how overrated Rocky has been by the company and the fans. If it were Austin in Hogan's role, I wonder how the crowd would have reacted. Possibly it would have been similar, with "Austin Sucks" chants and whatnot, but more likely it would have been closer to the 50/50 split that JR tried to pass off, like Warrior/Hogan from WM VI. Of course, I also think the big Ambulance angle had quite a negative effect on Rock's heat going into the match, because it was so far-fetched that nobody bought into it at all despite the high praise it seemed to get, and thus didn't give Rock the "sympathetic babyface" rub they were going for.

Then again, the NWO went from cancer brought in by Vince, to being portrayed as mercenaries in no way involved with Vince, that maybe the fans just didn't know how to really react, so Hogan got the face pops just because they've been cheering Hogan on for years. Eh, whatever...

And I agree with you that Rock could be an effective heel, in a true heel sense, because the guy just isn't as likable as someone like Austin or Hogan. Looking back, I think they missed out on a tremendous opportunity last night by not turning Rock. I can't stand any of the parties involved, but the heat would have been off the fucking charts if Rock had joined Hall and Nash in beating down Hogan, rather than remaining face and going against what the fans seemingly wanted to see.



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