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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: 4 Horsemen reunion | ||||
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| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 8:35 AM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00  | Anyone else see a 4 Horsemen reunion coming? Chris benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Ric Flair and Arn Anderson. How are they going to explain Benoit staying on Raw now when he was drafted for Smackdown. | ||||
...And now the battle between us and them has begun. JYD-4-LIFE. | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 11:05 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: May. 00 | If Guerrero becomes a horsemen I blame you. He is not, and I repeat not horsemen material. I'd like to see Benoit, Malenko, a third man and the whole group anchored by the big man Brock. He would make a good horsemen enforcer in my mind Now this looks like a job for me So everybody just follow me Cuz we need a little controversy, Cuz it feels so empty without me | ||||
| HOSPITALIANO | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 11:21 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Eddy shouldn't be a horseman. (But so was Paul Roma so that isn't saying much). Who I would like to see would be Flair, Benoit, Storm, and Jericho. But Jericho wouldn't play second fiddle anymore(besides being on smackdown) I've herd Benoit starting a New Stable IV Horsemen for about 3 years now and since his mic skills improved so much it may work now.  No Crew Needed, | ||||
| Mangino I live... again. | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 12:57 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | Eddie Guerrerro? Are you mad? Eddie is a great wrestler....he really is, but his character isnt HORSEMAN material. I doubt Vince is gonna bring back the 4 Horsemen. And even if he did....isnt Benoit Smackdown property? How can you have the Horsemen without Flair or Anderson...even if they werent wrestling...just as managerial types....just doesnt work. If it does come to pass...and we do see the return of the Horsemen...who would be in it ? Obviously Benoit. Id like to see Saturn, Kanyon, Rhyno, Brock Lesnar, Lance Storm, Test. I just hope they dont put nobody lame in ....*achemMONGOachem* Manager of the Intergender champion Cancer Mike!! Beware my posts....I might be banned again! Resident of Mr.Rogers neighborhood | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 1:05 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | 4 horsemen have never had Latino Heat before. | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 1:10 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | You have Flair, You have Arn Anderson. That is 1/2 of the 4 horsemen right there. It is obvious Benoit is on Raw so that makes 3. Add in Eddie Guerrero and you have the 4 horsemen vs Stone Cold. | ||||
| Tussle King I swear it was this big | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 1:13 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 02 | You can put whoever you want together and they will still never come close to the original 4 Horsemen:    | ||||
| Cluster F | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 2:53 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | [Sarcasm] I want Mongo back [/Sarcasm] Honestly though, i like the idea, but why have the horsemen if you already have the NWO...on the same show!!! RAW last night was really good.  Thanks to Austin for the pic 1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year 2. Hate the Braves with a passion 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 4. Mets win World Series 5. Root for and support Mike Piazza, regardless of his sexual preference Crack Committee Members: Cluster F, Rageparty, Bloody Anus, DiamondDust, JayMohrMassage, HammerSavage, PeterDragon, and 1888RustyTrombone...the force is growing. | ||||
...And now the battle between us and them has begun. JYD-4-LIFE. | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 2:57 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: May. 00 | Eddy SUCKS!!!!!!! Plain and simple. Making him a horsemen is an insult to all other horsemen...well except for paul roma and mongo Now this looks like a job for me So everybody just follow me Cuz we need a little controversy, Cuz it feels so empty without me | ||||
| Francine Banger | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 4:27 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | Ok you put Flair, Anderson, Benoit, and Guerrero as the 4 Horsemen. Thats great. Just one problem Flair and Anderson dont wrestle anymore. Flair could build heat as the "Owner" but what can Anderson do besides being stuck up Flair's ass. And then all you have is Benoit and Guerrero in the group. This could have been good if it was 5 years ago and Flair and Anderson were still wrestling. And as far as Mongo is concerned, they would be better off digging up Brian Pillman's corpse.  | ||||
| rageparty 123...Not so bare anymore since I got a number underneath my name again I also have an imaginary girlfriend. | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 6:03 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 01 | This would be stupid, they would turn the Horsemen into Austin's bitches just like the nWo! They have no one good left for Horsemen besides Storm and maybe Jericho. Storm is working Metal or whatever it's called now and Jericho is jobbing to Hogan, HHH and will be once Rock gets back. If they put Jericho in it he'd wind up 3rd stringer behind Flair and Benoit. I wouldn't want to see the Horsemen get embarrassed like that anyway. But if they do form, just think how pathetic nWo would look...Vince is such an idiot for bringing those asslickers in :::Shakes Head:::   Shit Can Happen | ||||
| Hello! Hello! Diamond Dust! Hello! | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 6:17 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | First off, if you're gonna have a Horsemen stable, Benoit being the leader ain't gonna work. As much as I love the guy, in a completely heterosexual way godammit, Benoit replacing Ric Flair as the charismatic kiss stealing, wheeling dealing, limousine ridin', jet flyin' son of a gun leader who the Horsemen protected and was the diritest player in the game is like Adolph Hitler replacing John Paul as the Pope. You can't get two bigger opposites. One has the charisma of anyone who's ever stepped in the ring and the other has the charisma of a wall. Infact, if anyone filled that as the TOTAL PACKAGE (not Lex Luger) of great in ring work, charisma and playing a great arrogant playboy heel, it MIGHT be Jericho or even, yes, Eddie Guererro. Of course, Eddie is about as reliable to not fall back into his drug habit and then get fired as Scott Hall, so I wouldn't put much on his shoulders and Jericho is on SD and quite frankly needs to concentrate on starting over with his character before getting such a big spotlight again, and since the only other guy I can think of that fits the Flair mold in the WWE is the Rock, who would be a terrible choice for obvious reasons; Hollywood, a heel turn that wouldn't work and overshadowing everyone else on the group like with the NOD being the biggest ones, the Horsemen idea would be doomed to fail. Flair being the head of it is just so terrible an idea at this stage of the game, it's ridiculous to even talk about. Certainly, he could be the boss, but to be counted as one of them is almost insulting. So, right there, the Horsemen idea should be dead. And thank God. Because alot of people on this board thought bringing back the nWo was smart, and would get the ratings up, and boy howdy did it ever. NOT. Lord knows the Hogan nostalgia trip has been a nightmare business wise as the young viewers who AREN'T sick in the head about their wrestling fanaticism (so I'm out) feel insulted and are being turned off in huge numbers. Rehashed angles like Angle shooting milk at Austin have been cute at first, but eventually gone too far and have led to boring TV. You starting to see a trend, folks? CAN'T WE ENCOURAGE THE WWE TO BE ORIGINAL INSTEAD OF TALK ABOUT THE SOLUTION BEING OLD STUFF? Hey, how about this as an idea? The writers make Benoit and Guererro a team brought together by Flair with Benoit's involvement being explained by saying he wants revenge on Austin for causing the injury to him at KOTR last year (I know Benoit actually got hurt at TLC 3, but it was explained to the audience he got hurt at KOTR on the Raw after it last year), and they have a great feud with great matches against Stone Cold and that's it! Oh wow, what a concept! No bringing back 1989 or nothing! It's their own feud with them doing their own stuff every Monday night with some new ways of storytelling for the angle to spice it up. I mean, they were off to a great, pretty original start last night. Why not continue? All this said, I'd bet good money TeenWeek is right and WWE insults its young viewers again and makes this the start of the Horsemen. God, I hope not. Talk about ruining what has the seeds to be a hot feud. 1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year 2. Hate the Braves with a passion 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 4. Mets win World Series 5. Boo that piece of shit Rey Ordonez, regardless of his sexuality and/or deadbeat dad status. | ||||
| krahzee | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 7:18 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 02 | IF they do bring back the 4 Horsemen it can not have Eddie in it. As great a worker as he is it would fuck up the chemistry of that group. A few points: 1) Flair and Vince are now both heels. A trade would not be out of the realm of possibility as far as Benoit goes. Same could be said for any other wrestler. Expect to see that happen sooner or later, if for no other reason than to keep guys in new fueds instead of rehashing old ones. This rings true for the bigger Smackdown guys the most, because let's face it, nobody would by a Hurricane VS. HHH fued, for example. 2) NWO may turn face. Anyone else notice the pop that Booker got for the spinnerooni last night? I did. Also Nash making comments about Flair putting Booker in the NWO and not the NWO themselves inducting Booker could be taken a few ways. I see a strong possibility of the horsemen being reformed and fueding with the NWO after they buck Flair's attempts to reign them in. Who will the other Horsemen be? Dunno. But do not be surprised to see the final member added be a major face turning heel. Also this type of stable would not be a terrible fit for a guy like Stiener. IF he's in a stable he can get away with being in an interference, or enforcer type of roll on nights he is in pretty bad shape. Anderson can't wrestle anymore, but has done this type of roll for a few years now. Is Stiener ideal Horsemen material? Dunno, that's all a matter of personal opinion. Would they be a prefferable fit for a guy who can't wrestle every night anymore? Yes. This message was edited by krahzee on 5-28-02 @ 7:34 PM | ||||
| Beans Malone | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 8:10 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 02 | No matter what 4 Horsemen they put together nothing would come close to ........  | ||||
| Jack Meehoff Teh funny blah blah absent blah blah teh blah | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 8:19 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 02 | As much as it has been rumored, why go the obvious route? Bringing back the NWO was a flop. Stables are out. I doubt even a DX reunion would fly. What they need to do in my opinion is set up for a Royal Rumble style match where all contestants from Raw start in the ring at the same time. Scrap all story lines going into this and nobody is anybodys friend. It would be so easy to create so many new feuds from this one battle that it almosts seems stupid not to do it. Its a fresh start with a new perspective. I think the fans would tune in the next night just to find out what happens. If done correctly this could carry them for months to come. May Teh Funny Be With You | ||||
| krahzee | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 10:25 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 02 | quote: Sorta like the WCW reset that worked so well? Bad idea. There are no quick fixes in any biz, esp. wrestling. The best bet for fixing the product is by slowly ending the old fueds, that do not work, over the next PPV and the week or two after it and developing new ones in the week or two that follows. Part of the WWF's problem is that they feel that they can't let a worker remain without a fued for too long. You wanna fued HHH with Benoit, for example? But Benoit is still fueding with another wrestler. Instead of hopping HHH into another fued because Benoit is finishing one up, let him have good solid matches without much storyline for a week or two. IF you give fans good well thought out fueds they will be willing to deal with a guy like HHH wrestling a match without a storyline for a week or two. You can even build the mic side of that future fued during that time. (ex. HHH/Benoit staredown in the back as they pass, Benoit interrupts HHH's mic time, ect...) Just don't go the predictable route. The one where guys almost swap wrestlers they are fueding with through the use of tag matches, ect... ( ex. Edge and Ryhno are fueding. So are Benoit and Austin. They go to the PPV and wrestle. The Raw after the PPV Benoit jumps Edge in the ring next thing you know it's Edge/Austin vs. Rhyno/Benoit. Then at the next PPV you have Rhyno vs. Austin, Edge vs. Benoit.) While some of those are matches that we would love to see technically, it's a lazy way of booking an angle and fans know it. The big problem the WWE has is that they seem to abandon good fueds right after PPV's. Remeber how long the Rock/ HHH fued was? It worked why fuck with it? Some may argue on this board that the Rock sucks, but let's face it we are not the average fan. The average fan does not post wrestling topics on a message board. They tune in for the wrestlers they like and that is it. They like the comedy along with solid fueds technically and storyline wise. Now you tune into WWE right after a PPV and half the fueds seem to change. Plus they have no buildup, so suddenly you've got a fued started out of practically nothing and fans could give a shit. This message was edited by krahzee on 5-28-02 @ 10:46 PM | ||||
| -GomeZ- | posted on 05-28-2002 @ 11:14 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 02 | quote: The better question is, will any of the wwe marks even know who the 4 horsemen are?  Trust Me! This message was edited by -GomeZ- on 5-28-02 @ 11:15 PM | ||||
| Tussle King I swear it was this big | posted on 05-29-2002 @ 9:06 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 02 | Beans, awesome pic. But I would go with the original lineup. Take Windham out and put Ole Anderson in. | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 05-29-2002 @ 9:58 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 |  Well here is a picture of the last horsemen. You have 3 of them already. Why not Eddie. He is a million times better than Mongo. Arn does not have to wrestle he can manage the group sort of like like what Ole did back in the day. Mr. Perfect would have been a perfect fit for the horsemen, but he is gone. If they want to add another guy and looking at the raw roster, I think William Regal would fit in if they wanted a 4th active wrestler. If a trade was made Lance Storm would be a perfect fit. Brock would be huge but he is going his own way right now with Paul E. The rest are good guys, jobbers (raven, Justin Credible and Tommy Dreamer), or NWO. | ||||
| Hello! Hello! Diamond Dust! Hello! | posted on 05-29-2002 @ 10:24 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01 | TeenWeek, what the hell is wrong with you posting that pic, man? Outside of Benoit, the flab and man boobs overload is scorning my eyes. Wow, I didn't remember how retarded Mongo looked until now. 1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year 2. Hate the Braves with a passion 3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year 4. Mets win World Series 5. Boo that piece of shit Rey Ordonez, regardless of his sexuality and/or deadbeat dad status. | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 05-29-2002 @ 10:32 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Just wanted to show how bad the last horesemn were and to show those who criticize latino Heat that he would be a huge stepup from Mongo. | ||||
| -GomeZ- | posted on 05-29-2002 @ 11:38 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 02 | I could be totally wrong, but was'nt there another incarnation of the Horsemen after that? Not totally sure though.... Also remember when the Radicalz fist came to the wwf? I always got the feeling wwf was trying to pass them off as a sort of new version of the 4 horsemen (not too shabby a line-up either, I always thought Malenko would be perfect as a Horseman) Trust Me! | ||||
| Crimson Mask | posted on 05-29-2002 @ 2:20 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Apr. 02 | Here's an idea maybee the wwE should start coming up with there own ideas not regurgitating old ones. Hmmmm thats not going to happen, hopefully we won't see an Oddities reunion or the return of the Varsity Club. So the reincarnation of the Horsemen is coming. The four should be Benoit the leader, Eddie Guerrero, Brock Lesnar the Enforcer, and Dustin Rhodes (kill off Goldust, this could be away to start a horsemen/ nwo feud). Only since Flair and Double A cant be in ring wrestlers, they should have like AA scouting the new Horseman members though. Other candidates: Jericho whould make a great Horseman, if Malenko can step back into a ring get him there, Regal is great choice too, and i think an Unmasked Kane instead of Brock could be acceptable. Non Canditates (stay the fuck away or there will be some pissed off Horsemen fans)": The Rock, Hunter is too mutch of a solo guy now, and Taker please stay the fuck away. Thinking about it for somereason in my head Ausin seems like a horsemen calibur attitude, he could be the Enforcer... to bad his wrestling skills are so depleted now. | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 06-03-2002 @ 1:40 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | I bet this happens tonight. | ||||
| krahzee | posted on 06-03-2002 @ 7:10 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 02 | quote: Wasn't he one in the last incarnation of the 4 Horsemen in WCW? I thought that group was Flair, Beniot, Mongo and Melenko, with Arn Anderson playing the enforcer role. That was the storyline that brought Flair back into WCW after his lawsuit was settled, if I remeber right. | ||||
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