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Psycho Bitch
posted on 08-17-2001 @ 11:17 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jul. 01
A friend of mine does columns sometimes for
another website. They're always really interesting
so I like sharing them with the Yankee fans here.
He's a professional stat man. Enjoy :)

Mystery Column
8/8/01



As the season enters the "dog days" of August,
there is one aspect
of the game that will be crucial as the Yankees
hold their two and
a half-game lead on the Redsox. What will be
crucial is the Yankee
DEFENSE. This season their ability to field has
been downhill from
previous seasons. Here are three Yankees whose
defensive abilities
are either overrated, underrated, or just plain
bad:

1. Tino Martinez- Tino Martinez has been in the
Bronx since
1996, or the first year of Don Mattingly's
retirement. We know that
Donnie Baseball won several Gold gloves during his
prime in the mid
80's. Nowadays, the broadcasters on TV have been
pushing for Tino to
finally win his first Gold glove award. They cite
his ability to pick
up the short-bounce throws by Brosius and Jeter,
his saving of several
errors by Knoblauch, and of course the swipe tags
to runners when throws
were too high or off the line. The question is
does Martinez match up
to Mattingly's fielding numbers during his Gold
glove seasons? And what
about the Gold glove winners at first base from
'96-'00? First thing to
look at is Tino v. Mattingly. To measure their
numbers up let's take a
look at their fielding percentage, which is a
fielder's putouts plus assists,
divided by their putouts plus assists plus errors.
First here is Mattingly's
numbers from 1985 to 1989, when Mattingly won five
straight Gold Gloves,
and Martinez from '96-'00:

Mattingly 1985-1989: Putouts-6,458 Assists-464
Errors-34 Fielding Percentage-.994.68

Martinez 1996-2000: Putouts-6,174 Assists-473
Errors-37 Fielding Percentage-.994.46

So as you see, the numbers are nearly identical,
and Mattingly has more putouts
simply because Martinez has been supported by
better pitching which means more
strikeouts, therefore less total chances. Now here
are the numbers of the previous
five Gold glove winners at first base from
'96-'00:

1996 J.T. Snow-1B 154 G, 1274 PO, 105 A, 10 E,
.993

1997-99 Rafael Palmeiro:
'97-155 G, 1303 PO, 113 A, 10 E, .993
'98- 159 G, 1433 PO, 125 A, 9 E, .994
'99- 28 G, 262 PO, 13 A, 1 E, .996(yes, that's
right, a Gold glove for 28 games played)

'00 John Olerud- 158 G, 1271 PO, 133 A, 5 E, .996

In the end, Martinez has been in consideration
for every Gold glove award the
past five years, except for last season, and this
is just the raw numbers.
This does not conclude how many errors or runs
that Martinez saves every year
for Jeter, Brosius, Knoblauch, Soriano, and the
Yankee pitching staff.

2.Jorge Posada - Posada has proven to be a great
choice to keep in the
organization and replace Joe Girardi as the full
time starting catcher. He
might finish this season hitting over .300 with
more then 20 homers and 100
RBI's. However defensively he could be much
better. Consider this season Posada
has 14 passed balls. This does not appear to be an
important statistic, especially
since coaches and commentators focus more on a
catcher's ability to throw runners
out. However, look more closely at the passed
balls Posada has committed and you'll
realize how much they hurt the team.

Posada's career high in passed balls is 17 in
1999. Out of those 17(which were
made over the span of 14 games) the Yankees were
7-7. So in half the games
Posada did not really hurt anyone. But of the 17
runners that moved up because
of passed balls, 10 of them came around to score.
Four of the runs ended up
unearned, and in one case Posada caused Rivera to
blow a save because of two
passed balls in the 9th inning (4/25/99).

Now for this season, of the 14 passed balls Posada
has committed (over 12
games) the Yankees are 5-7 in those games. The
passed balls have led to 20
runners being moved up on the bases, and of that
group, 15 of them have come
around to score, and 9 of the runs were unearned.
So the catcher's ability to
keep the ball in front of him is just as important
as being able to throw base
runners out.

3. Derek Jeter- You see it all the time on either
ESPN or Fox Sports
Saturday, heck even the Yankees promote this idea.
The idea is that Jeter is
a "defensive powerhouse" or "one of the great
defensive shortstops of our
generation." But if you see Jeter play every game,
you notice that for the most
part he doesn't dive for groundballs, and his
throws to first have been awful
of late. To get some perspective on what Jeter has
done in the field, here are
his defensive numbers from '96-'00:

Derek Jeter 1996-2000- 770 Games, 1180 PO, 2029 A,
87 E, .974 FP

How do those numbers compare with other starting
shortstops? Look at some of the
other top shortstops in the game (these numbers
are also from '96-'00)

Omar Vizquel-752 G, 1196 PO, 2129 A, 53 E, .983 FP
(also has won last 8 Gold gloves)

Nomar Garciaparra- 588 G, 945 PO, 1660 A, 82 E,
.969 FP (Nomah's better?)

Alex Rodriguez- 723 G, 1176 PO, 2065 A, 81 E, .976
FP

Mike Bordick- 773 G, 1234 PO, 2256 A, 61 E, .983
FP

There are about six other players with similar or
better defensive numbers, but for
the sake of space they won't be listed here. Now
that the numbers are in front of
you, can you say that Jeter is a great player and
most likely a lifetime Yankee?
Yes. Is he a good defensive shortstop? Yes. But is
Jeter one of the best players at
his position in our generation or in our lifetime?
Absolutely not.

That's it for this week's installment. Go Yanks.





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~~Psycho Bitch~~
"The definition of insanity is repeating the
same behavior over and over expecting
different results"


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jewdown
posted on 08-17-2001 @ 12:15 PM      
O&A Board Regular
Registered: Jan. 01
Those are some damn interesting stats, Psycho Bitch. Thanks for that bit of info.
I would say Tino has gone above and beyond in his efforts to fill Mattingly's shoes.

quote:

Consider this seasonPosada has 14 passed balls.

Also consider 4 were in one game. 3 in one inning.




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