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posted on 07-06-2002 @ 3:19 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
I just read another article about making the MLB All Star game matter. Some of the things the guy talks about are giving either league the home field advantage of home field next year and also for the 7th game of the World Series.

He also brinsg up the point of guys not wanting to play due to injury.

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But I do know one thing. Pedro Martinez, the charismatic Red Sox hurler, took a pass on this year’s All-Star Game to spare the wear and tear on his shoulder. It’s far more important, he said, to rest up for the stretch run and a hoped-for spot in the World Series. But what if next year’s All-Star Game carried a World Series edge? You just might see Martinez trotting out of the A.L. bullpen in the ninth inning to preserve a lead. And wouldn’t all New York be amused come October if, thanks to Pedro’s effort, the Yankees got to host that seventh game in the Bronx?




I just don't get this. I thought any all star game is meant to simply be a game of pure fun, no meaning whatsoever. No other sports puts meaning into the all-star games. Hell, the Pro Bowl happens after the season is over. It's simply suppose to be an honor to be selected to play, and then go out and have fun for a weekend. They can choose to play if they want, but there is no reason to give rewards and incentives for winning.

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posted on 07-06-2002 @ 4:48 PM      
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Ive heard this argument for the past 2 years, not including this one. It will NEVER happen if baseball knows whats good for it. If you are Robert Fick, do you give 2 shits about game 7 home field advantage? You think if he is batting in the 9th inning down by 2 with the bases loaded, that hes going to try extra hard to get a hit because if he does, the AL gets home field? I dont think so. Thats why it doesnt make sense.


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posted on 07-06-2002 @ 4:52 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Feb. 01
If you think about it though, it's not any stupider than the way they select who gets home field advantage now. I mean, what's better -- have the league somewhat earn it, sorta, in an exhibition game, or have the league get home field advantage cuz it's their turn this year? Yes, neither is perfect, but THIS one means more people will watch the All Star Game, which means more money for baseball. So, why not? I probably would actually watch if they did that.

And, please, don't disgrace the name of the NFL ever again by mentioning the Pro Bowl, the single biggest disgrace ot ever fall upon the game of football not involving the XFL. It's ALMOST more boring than a Voss act or a COLLEGE football game. Almost.

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posted on 07-06-2002 @ 5:29 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
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THIS one means more people will watch the All Star Game



So you think that adding the prize of picking where the Game 7 will be played will bring those non-baseball fan ratings to the All Star game? If no one cares about baseball to begin with, why would choosing where the Game 7 will be played add any incentive to them?

Also, how often does any championship series go to a Game 7? Just leave the incentives out, and play like Little Leaguers for one day out of the summer.

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posted on 07-06-2002 @ 7:05 PM      
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There doesnt need to be any incentives, its an exhibition, just take it for what its worth.

But the Home Field in the World Series is a joke that it alternates from year to year, Lets say if the teams who lost in the AL and NLCS last year met in the World Series that would have been the Braves vs. the Mariners.

The Mariners finished 28 games ahead of the Braves last year, yet if they met in the World Series, the Braves would have had Home Field. Idiotic.

And dont tell me home field doesnt mean anything in Baseball, how many games did the Road Team win in the World Series last year? 0.

I also wont mention how the Mets finished 7 1/2 games ahead of the yankees in 2000, yet the Yankees had Home Field.

In typical Yankee luck, the Yankees finished with the worst record of all the playoff teams in 2000, finished with a worse record than Cleveland who didnt even make the playoffs, yet still managed to have home field in 2 of their 3 series'. Thats yankee baseball.

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posted on 07-06-2002 @ 7:45 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Why can't they just do what every other teams does?? Tournament rules...#1 seed gets the home field throughout. What is so hard about that?

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posted on 07-06-2002 @ 9:06 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 02
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it's not any stupider



.... you are intelligenter than anyone I know ....

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play like Little Leaguers for one day out of the summer.




.... their goal is to please the fans or at least that is what it is supposed to be .... so they should play like little leaguers the whole year ....

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So you think that adding the prize of picking where the Game 7 will be played will bring those non-baseball fan



.... just adding the prize won't bring fans but knowing that the players are actually there to win will ....

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I thought any all star game is meant to simply be a game of pure fun



.... the all-star baseball game used to be a real game when the REAL all-stars made the team .... now that it is a popularity contest that is what has ruined it ....

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posted on 07-06-2002 @ 9:34 PM      
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Registered: Mar. 02
The game is always a one sided joke anyway. If your talking about other all star games, the pro bowl is even more worthless... they take out almost every aspect of defensive pressure inorder to prevent injuries.


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posted on 07-08-2002 @ 12:39 PM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
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So you think that adding the prize of picking where the Game 7 will be played will bring those non-baseball fan ratings to the All Star game? If no one cares about baseball to begin with, why would choosing where the Game 7 will be played add any incentive to them?




I'm not talking about casual fans. I'm not a casual fan, I'm a pretty big fan, and I don't watch. Maybe guys like me would watch is all I'm saying, because we'd be curious to see who has home-field advantage in the Series. And it's not just about who hosts Game 7. The winners get Games 1 and 2 also in their home, and those games definitely will be played. It's probably better than having Games 3 and 4.

Look, in the grand scheme of things, home field doesn't mean much in baseball, so I don't see how it'd kill anything to add some meaning (even if it's not exactly HUGE meaning) to a lifeless, boring exhibition game. I'm not saying they have to do it to save baseball or anything, or that it'd make a huge impact on ratings in the long run, I'm just saying it's not a half-bad idea is all.

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Huh? Is that an O&A reference I somehow missed?

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posted on 07-08-2002 @ 12:39 PM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
D'Oh! Double post. Sorry, guys.

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posted on 07-08-2002 @ 1:52 PM      
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I'm actually in more favor of a world vs. north america format like the nhl has done. but all the people on the "world" team will be hispanic and the PC police will say "oh nos racism!".





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posted on 07-08-2002 @ 1:57 PM      
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Lent you forgot the gooks too.

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posted on 07-08-2002 @ 5:57 PM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
Yeah, the gooks can't be left out.

Personally, I think that idea sucks for hockey, but maybe it'd work for baseball, I don't know.

The one thing I'd rather see is a World Cup of baseball, like in soccer. Now, that would be cool. Have it in warm weather sites in February, right before spring training, and more importantly, when nothing is going on in the sports world, for a month or so. It would be VERY competitive. The US would likely be the favorites, but the Dominican Republic would be tough and probably so would Cuba if they played in it. Hell, Panama would be dangerous just because Mariano "Ally McBeal" Rivera is their closer!

I'd really like to see it. Maybe they can fight over it in the CBA negotiations, it's not like they're really negotiating the actual CBA or anything. :rolleyes:

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posted on 07-08-2002 @ 9:07 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 02
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it's not any stupider

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Huh? Is that an O&A reference I somehow missed?




.... no, it's the fact that it isn't a word ....

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posted on 07-08-2002 @ 9:12 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
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The one thing I'd rather see is a World Cup of baseball, like in soccer.



Too bad there would only be like four teams playing. No one else cares about baseball.

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"I haven't felt that good since Artie Gammell scored against Holland in 1978." "When a person is insane, as you clearly are, do you know that you're insane? Maybe you're just sitting around, reading "Guns and Ammo", masturbating in your own feces, do you just stop and go, "Wow! It is amazing how fucking crazy I really am!" "Bitch, what you don't know about me I can just about squeeze in the Grand fucking Canyon. Did you know I always wanted to be a dancer in Vegas?" "Bazooko's Circus is what the world would be doing every Saturday night if the Nazis had won the war.



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