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PeterDragon
posted on 07-07-2002 @ 10:44 PM      
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This trade was discussed during Mets/Marlins rain delayed game, and it was announced that there would be a trade announcement following the game.

Obviously the team of Omar Minaya & Frank Robinson don't want to go quietly.
Floyd, Dempster headline proposed Expos-Marlins deal


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1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice
1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play
2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base.
4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention)
Cluster F
posted on 07-07-2002 @ 11:00 PM      
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Why would ANYONE want Graeme Lloyd? Especially after the shitty performance he had today. What Montreal needs is a relief pitcher who is good in the 7th or 8th inning, not another hitter. And their starting staff is already pretty solid, with Armas, Colon, Vasquez, and Ohka. So, adding Floyd and Dempster is all well and good, but what the Expos need to get to the next level is relief pitching.


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2002 Crack Committee Objectives:
1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year
2. Hate the Braves with a passion
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
4. Mets win World Series
5. Go 52-24 over the last 76 games of the season, it can happen right?


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Francine Banger
posted on 07-07-2002 @ 11:46 PM      
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Registered: Dec. 00
If the Expos need relief pitching they can take Scott Strickland back.

Now the Expos are making moves and thats all fine and dandy, but come on this team isnt a legit playoff contender.

I mean they are 3 games ahead of the lousy Mets. The Expos play the Braves next weekend, the Mets play the Phillies, by next week at this time, they could be even with the Mets.

The National League looks like this. The Braves are winning the East, The Cardinals are winning the Central, and you take the 3 teams out West, Diamondbacks, Giants, and Dodgers. One of them is winning the Division. One of them is winning the Wildcard, and the other is the odd team out.

And even with how bad the Mets have been, the Mets will finish in 2nd Place in the NL East. They are going to go on a run, They have alot of home games to play, and they cant play any worse in the 2nd half then they did the 1st half, and with how lousy things have been, they are only a couple behind Florida and Montreal.

The problem is that the Mets dont need to go on a Super Run to win the Division. They need a Collosal run to win the Division, they are 12 1/2 out, the Way the Braves have been playing they may not lose 12 more games the rest of the year.

The Wildcard is more of a possibility, but they will likely fall short of that.

TeenWeek
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posted on 07-08-2002 @ 6:38 AM      
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So if anyone besides the yankees makes a lopsided deal it's ok. Does anyone think since baseball owns the Expos, and it looks like they will NOT be contracted, doesn't it seem MLB is in collusion now to make the Expos a better team so they can be sold for a higher profit. Just a question, that's all.

Another question: Why is the Ex-owner of the Expos and now owner of the Marlins, getting rid of everybody on the marlins. He is singlehandedly trying to ruin 2 franchises. Maybe Selig can give him some of the yankees revenue sharing too.




This message was edited by TeenWeek on 7-8-02 @ 7:43 AM
PeterDragon
posted on 07-08-2002 @ 11:37 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

So if anyone besides the yankees makes a lopsided deal it's ok.



I hope you weren't serious there.
It's not about the Yankees per se. it's about competitive balance and money. But let's save that for another thread.

quote:

come on this team isnt a legit playoff contender
the Mets will finish in 2nd Place in the NL East.


I wish I had your confidence. The Expos may not have playoff run experience, but I like their talent. Colon, Vasquez, Armas Jr., Okha vs Leiter, Astascio, Trachsel, D'Amico, Estes I prefer Expos.
Expos Guererro, Vidro, Cabrerra, FLoyd are better than Mets at their positions, and that is just off the top of my head. Mets have more depth, but If you today asked if I'd swap Mets roster for Expos, I might just do it.


2002 Crack Committee Objectives: (modified version)(You gotta try and believe....)
1.Hate the Braves with PASSION and extreme prejudice
1a. Try and go a week without having to punch a wall in frustration after watching the Mets play
2. 90 Wins and somehow get the Mets into playoffs this year
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
3a.Have team understand it is OK to get a hit with runners on base.
4. Mets win World Series (after divine intervention)
Ferret
posted on 07-08-2002 @ 12:32 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
The deal is being help up now because MLB does not want to pay the extra $5Mil if they're just going to contract the team anyway (most likely, anyway). Since a key part of this deal is that the Marlins get rid of salary, and the only way that MLB approves it is if the salaries balance out, it may not happen at all.

quote:

Does anyone think since baseball owns the Expos, and it looks like they will NOT be contracted, doesn't it seem MLB is in collusion now to make the Expos a better team so they can be sold for a higher profit. Just a question, that's all.



No, because regardless, the value of the team is shit due to their awful tv deal and lack of a fan base even if they do win. It's Omar Minaya proving that he can turn around a team for when future GM positions become available, MLB is actually telling him no. They wouldn't be trading away all of their prospects if they didn't think they'd be contracted.


quote:

Another question: Why is the Ex-owner of the Expos and now owner of the Marlins, getting rid of everybody on the marlins. He is singlehandedly trying to ruin 2 franchises.



I've wondered that one since they made the sale. If it sucks so badly and you can't afford to run a team, why do you go and buy another financially burdened team??? Makes absolutely no sense and baseball is worse because of it. Baseball really has their head up their ass.




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posted on 07-08-2002 @ 12:53 PM      
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quote:

The Expos also were discussing a deal that would bring them right-hander Orlando Hernandez from the New York Yankees.



The only guys they have on their roster to trade for Hernandez are Vladimir Guerrero and Jose Vidro. Their 2 All-Star. And actually, the Yankees don't even need them because they have other guys playing their positions. What has Frank Robinson been smoking lately?


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2002 Crack Committee Objectives:


1. 94 Wins and NL East Title by the Mets this year


2. Hate the Braves with a passion


3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year


4. Met fans get drunk watching the World Series!!!


5. Start the 'rebuilding process' immediatley!

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posted on 07-08-2002 @ 12:53 PM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
Ferret, my boy, you are way off base. What the fuck does the TV deal or shitty fanbase or anything mean when they sell the team to Washington D.C.? It'll be like an expansion team going to Washington, just with good players on it already. Unless you think they'll be banking on people making the trek from Montreal to be 90% of the fanbase, which I don't think will be the case.

And contraction ain't happening. Even if they rule in favor of the owners, which NEVER happens, the fact is you need at least two teams to contract, and no other team will do that (TB has that fucking lease, Florida has a new owner, Minnesota is dead in this category, etc.).

So, the owners are now trying to give a good product to the potential buyers. This way the value goes up. So, they are spending money, though not too much, in order to get more money when they sell the team as TW said. And, yes, I DO think there is a collusion in place here, and Florida and Cleveland should be brought to task. I will only give a break to the Marlins, though because Cliff Floyd is a FA at the end of the year,so he likely won't be with the Expo franchise when it's sold, which makes it seem like an actual move to contend. But, you know what? If they contend this year, that ALSO increases the value of the team, so maybe they DO need criticism on second thought. I don't know, all I know is that there's something fishy and I don't like it.

quote:

So if anyone besides the yankees makes a lopsided deal it's ok.



Well, I ain't a hypocrite, cuz I'm bashing baseball for this as well. And it's not just the lopsided trade portion that we bash the Yankees for, TW. We bash them because they are just outspending everyone, which leads to the lopsided trade.

Now, the next lopsided trade the Yanks make, I want you to be outraged, TW. Because you have now put yourself in a position where you're a hypocrite yourself if you don't cry foul when the Yanks do the same thing and you do when the baseball owners collude. It's only fair.

2002 Crack Committee Objectives:
1. 94 Wins and the NL East title
2. Hate the Braves with a passion.
3. All 5 Starters have winning records this year
4. Mets win the World Series
TeenWeek
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posted on 07-08-2002 @ 1:16 PM      
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Hello Hello, if you read my little comment in the Ted Williams thread about the Yankees trading for his DNA, should tell you that i agree that the Yankees go over board. They basically have 6 number 1 starters and an all star at almost every position.

I don't like saying they buy their team. The core part of the team came from the farm system. No one cared when they sucked in the 80's. What I meant by my comment, any deal the yankees make is ridiculed but the Expos looking to profit from an obvious salary dump by their ex-owner and boyfriend of Bud Selig the fearless commissioner is ridiculous.

I know the good teams take advantage of the poor teams. When did the Expos become a good team though.




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posted on 07-08-2002 @ 1:32 PM      
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According to Sportscenter this morning, the deal is contingent upon money, the league office won't let the Expos add significant extra payroll to their existing salary now.


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posted on 07-08-2002 @ 2:21 PM      
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Registered: Mar. 02
quote:

According to Sportscenter this morning, the deal is contingent upon money, the league office won't let the Expos add significant extra payroll to their existing salary now.
I heard that exact same thing.. but the question is, how much payroll do they need, and will the mlb bail them out if they dont have enough, because lord knows you arent raking in the dough when you only get about 3000 fans a game.


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