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BaLLooN NoT
posted on 08-10-2001 @ 11:41 AM      
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Knicks hoping to trade Rice, Ward

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NEW YORK -- The Knicks have been shopping Charlie Ward and Glen Rice for more than a week in a four-team deal that could materialize as early as Friday, the New York Post reported.

Awaiting the green light from Madison Square Garden boss James Dolan, whom Knicks GM Scott Layden met Thursday at an undisclosed, out-of-state location, the four-team swap would see Rice headed to Houston for Shandon Anderson and Ward going to the Warriors in exchange for Adonal Foyle, the newspaper reported. The Knicks would also land Howard Eisley from the Mavericks, who are trying to make room under their salary cap for free-agents like Tim Hardaway to change the face of the Knick lineup.

The deal is contingent on all four teams moving players around in tandem in a new tactic that has developed as general managers are getting creative in their ways around the salary cap.

Houston officials are concerned with Rice's health (foot), but the results of a physical there could put a dent in the deal, while Layden is trying to get Dolan's approval to pay Anderson (a free agent looking for $5.5 million a year) and Eisley (six years at $4.7 million per).

Rice's subtraction would free up $9 million a year for the next three for the Knicks, while changing the face of their lineup that has three players in Allan Houston, Latrell Sprewell and Rice, who all play the same role.

Rice has not thrived in Jeff Van Gundy's practice-sensitive regime and his offensive numbers have suffered by not getting as many shots as the small-forward-tuned-power-forward has wanted. In Houston under Rudy Tomjonovich, practices are less vigorous and Rice could get more touches as an outside shooter and Houston's a team that usually goes inside.

Anderson is a post-up forward who can run the floor, while Eisley is a point guard. All along the Knicks have said that they would not trade for a point guard until they gave up one of their own.

The concern for Dolan and the Knicks remains whether they would be paying too much for younger players. Anderson, 26, is a free agent who wants more than the $5 million that Houston is offering to re-sign, while Eisley, 28, has six years left on his $36.7 million deal signed last year as a free agent that the Knicks would pick up. Rice's deal pays him $27 million over the next three seasons.

Ward, whose name has been bounced around often this summer because of the anti-Semetic remarks he made prior to the playoffs, is slated to make $5.6 million this year, plus two more seasons at $5.82 milliom and $6.28 million. In Foyle (3 years, $4.4 mil per), the Knicks would be getting a shot-blocking, rebounding backup center to spell the newly beefed-up Marcus Camby.

Previously, the Knicks have also been dangling Othella Harrington with Ward's name to make a deal more attractive to possible suitors, as Harrington is a bargain at $2.47 million per for two more years.






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Goat Pupil
posted on 08-10-2001 @ 12:32 PM      
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I really hope the knicks either make some trades, or sign some free agents before the season starts.



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posted on 08-10-2001 @ 1:44 PM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
correct me if Im wrong. Don't the knicks need help down in the paint. Like getting a guy who can score consistently. No offense to Marcus and Kurt but thats where the problem is. Adonal Foyle is not the answer.........

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posted on 08-10-2001 @ 1:53 PM      
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quote:


rebounding backup center to spell the newly beefed-up Marcus Camby


is he tipping the scales at that 100 pound mark yet?

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posted on 08-10-2001 @ 6:24 PM      
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Registered: Mar. 01
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I want to thank you for being my source for sports information. I don't watch TV and very rarely have time to p/u the paper so it is you or the 20/20 buddy.
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Francine Banger
posted on 08-11-2001 @ 1:54 AM      
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The deal is done and the Knicks didnt even have to give up Charlie Ward. They gave up The Greatest Knick of all time though in the deal. The one and only Muggsy Bogues. I think his # should go up in the Rafters at MSG, or at least his suits that he wore on the end of the bench.

ALl Knick fans will miss you Muggsy!!!

mikeWOW
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posted on 08-11-2001 @ 10:41 AM      
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why the fuck would the nyk's do this deal? i dont fucking get it?

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Francine Banger
posted on 08-11-2001 @ 12:12 PM      
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Scott Layden is the GM. Thats why.

It doesnt hurt the team that much because Glen Rice didnt fit in with the Knicks, and Muggsy Bogues never played. But now they have a log jam at Point Guard, this team needs to get Bigger!!!

Goat Pupil
posted on 08-11-2001 @ 5:12 PM      
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Registered: Apr. 01
I personnally agree with this trade except for one thing. Why did the knicks aquire another SG/SF...that's spree's position. They need to get a big man. Bring back Ewing.



BaLLooN NoT
posted on 08-12-2001 @ 1:30 AM      
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quote:

why the fuck would the nyk's do this deal? i dont fucking get it?


damn MIKE but this it what you always say.....
quote:

"i hate people that dont get it!"


lol




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This message was edited by BaLLooN NoT on 8-12-01 @ 2:39 AM
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posted on 08-12-2001 @ 1:52 AM      
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quote:

is he tipping the scales at that 100 pound mark yet?



Nope. Hes Beffed up pretty well. Hes been doing alot of weight training and shit. He looks alot bigger.


Thx to FN Moron for the sig. -wCw-
BaLLooN NoT
posted on 08-12-2001 @ 3:00 AM      
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he better be "beffed" (as austin put it....lol) if the Knicks want to da any thing next year... other wise another year goes by that the Knicks can't SIZE up against other teams Centers

how is this ????



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posted on 08-12-2001 @ 3:16 AM      
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quote:

he better be "beffed" (as austin put it....lol)



Come on man u dont expect me to make spelling errors at 2 am?


Thx to FN Moron for the sig. -wCw-
BaLLooN NoT
posted on 08-14-2001 @ 3:49 PM      
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Rockets awaiting Rice's medical results

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HOUSTON -- The Houston Rockets postponed a news conference to introduce new acquisition Glen Rice on Tuesday because team doctors weren't finished reviewing his medical records.


Rockets spokesman Tim Frank said physicians were taking longer than expected to examine results of Rice's physical.

A foot injury forced Rice to miss much practice time last season with the New York Knicks. He played in 75 games and started 25. His scoring average, 19.5 points per game for his 12-year NBA career, dropped to 12 points per game last season.

Houston acquired the three-time All-Star in a three-team trade Friday that also involved the Knicks and Dallas Mavericks.

Howard Eisley went from Dallas to New York, Shandon Anderson went from the Rockets to the Knicks and Muggsy Bogues went to the Mavericks from New York.

Rice arrived in Houston on Monday to take his physical.

"Right now it's still up in the air," Rice, discussing the health of his foot, told Houston television station KRIV Monday. "I haven't had the opportunity to get out there and do any pounding on it to gauge if it's better. Over the next couple of days, I hope to get out there and tell whether it's gotten a lot better.

"I think there is still pain but I think I can play through it. At the same time I want to get it as close to 100 percent as possible."





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posted on 08-15-2001 @ 7:01 AM      
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I bet this trade gets canceled like the big cluster f that happened with Vin Baker.




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