You asked for a chat thread......

[Luna]

Need I say more? I thought abuot getting one of those bark stopper things that you plug in and the dog wears a transmitter, but I'm not too sure about that.

Do me a favor and stay away from electronic devices. These things are getting too relied upon by the general public and they should only be used by professionals. They were created by a trainer (J. Torturra) *sp?* to be used on valuble hunting dogs to stop them from chasing cougars and pumas in life and death situations. People are using them now for general training purposes and having devastating results...results they hadn't expected. If you don't understand the learning theory and "superstious learning" you should stay far away from these devices. I've seen too many people use them with results they hadn't expected and to reverse them is an astronomical task.