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Monkey Planet......
#1
Last night, AMC was showing the Planet of the Apes with additional information which made it really entertaining. Well, last night I was thinking how could our civilization descend so that monkeys, sorry, simians would take over. Well, here are my thoughts, abridged, for your enjoyment.

First, the original movie had the Heston character make a commentary of the current state of the human race. If this was to be a movie, I would start off with the three pilots being a Jew, Xtian, and a Moor. The Xtian would comment how his religion is the bridge between them and comment that if the Holy Lands were removed, everyone would be reduced to there core selves and what there religion tells them: Be a good Jew, Love your neighbor, Offer Sanctuary to those who ask. But I am not doing a movie, but I do want to preface that if the human race falls, it is because of religious intolerance.

Destruction of the US:
The US currently is the dominant State. Referring to the number one axiom about power: Power's primary concern is to retain power, I do not see the US crumbling from the outside. Instead, I forsee an internal crumbling of the country. Eventhough this is an open country (casteless), their is one source to power: education. A degree at a prestigious school carries much weight in the business would. Families should work to attain such goals (My father was without a degree, I went to SUNY, my children will go to Harvard/MIT) because it is the "safest" path to stepping oneself up in class/income bracket.

That being said, there is a current trend: Those who value education are having 1/2 children starting around 30's whereas others are have multiple children starting in their teens. What this also means that certain families are acquiring more wealth before having children and dividing amoungst less children. One couple, born now will have 4 grandchildren destined for a college education and a professional career in 60 years, where as another couple will, in the same 60 years, have 64 great grandchildren destined to have 4 children each. The first couple might be able to pay for their grandchildren's education, since it is only 4 and they started their career before their family, where as the second might buy Johnny a pack of smokes.

Over a couple of centuries, an internal strife will develop. As our would becomes more technology based, certain families will be able to afford (both financially and educationally) to stay on top of the game and will accumulate both power and wealth. Slowly this country will denegrate to a form of serfdom, and the large uneducated masses will yearn for power, wealth, and sustinance.

Old Grudges:
As the country slowly slips, politicans will become more power hungry, vaccuous, and iron fisted. A revolt will start and the leaders will try their best to squash any rebellion. Then fanatical Muslim will find the weakness the solely desire: They will retaliate for this country's support for Israel by America's Jewish community. They will nuke a couple of our cities, maybe drop one in the nation's beadbasket. Of course, our leaders are less tolerant and will cause the whole Arab world to glow, from Egypt to Turkey to Pakistan.

Post Nuclear:
The UN reconveins in Switzerland and slaps economic sanctions on the US, which in a sense is ludicrious because the damage has been done. The world's dependancy on Oil will be it's undoing. Alaska and Texas will drain quickly, the Middle East inaccesable and all of our technology will cease to exist (no travel, no plastic, no way to heat fibreglass). But so much worse, with the contamination of the US Midwest, there will no longer be a large source of food. Nations will slowly stave and degenerate in 40-50 years following the nuclear attacks.

The New World Power:
Luckily, on region will survive: the Southern Hemisphere. Africa will strickly be desert for the most part, but Brazil will quickly chop down its rainforrest and convert it into farmland. At first it will use Oil from Argentina, but slowly it will be forced to turn to manual labor. It will slowly turn to simians as a slave labor, but as Darwin teaches us, those with the most desirable qualities will survive. Thus it will be on the Brazilian farms. Those monkeys will higher intelligence will slowly learn cultivation until, after many many centuries, they are finally able to communicate, and then take over the farms.

What became:
Human's on the other hand will have devolved. The strongest and the most brutal will survive in the rest of the world as the struggle to find food. Since radioactive pollution prevents cultivation for many generations, it is forgotten. Nature will recover and man's great buildings will crumble due to lack of maintainance and erosion. The simians from Brazil will spread themselves accoss the continents and find humans deplorable.




What all of this means:
Imagine what you would see 500 years from now. Technology advances can be assumed to be a definite, but also think about how much different a social climant would be in existance.

2000 Years ago: A single Human in power controlled not were absolute leaders, but also Religious deities.

1000 Years ago: Single Humans controlled their contries, but they lost their religious control to an establishment. In fact, the religious leaders often fought with the secular leaders for power. Not all humans were equal. Slaves were common and women were second hand citizens. Wars were waged because of differences in religion

500 Years ago: Single Human leaders started losing their power to groups, leaders of religion started to losing their power to the individuals. Slaves were still common and intolerance was still rampant.

Imagine taking someone and showing them society 500 years in their future. Can you imagine what society will be like in 500 years with the eventual crumbling of religion and figureheads?

Can also you imagine that with our weapons, people figuritively living 1000 years in the past can destroy race.
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#2
And to think that whenever I watch "Planet of the Apes", all I think of is Ant doing his Heston impression. Rolleyes

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Quote:The New World Power:
Luckily, on region will survive: the Southern Hemisphere. Africa will strickly be desert for the most part, but Brazil will quickly chop down its rainforrest and convert it into farmland. At first it will use Oil from Argentina, but slowly it will be forced to turn to manual labor. It will slowly turn to simians as a slave labor, but as Darwin teaches us, those with the most desirable qualities will survive. Thus it will be on the Brazilian farms. Those monkeys will higher intelligence will slowly learn cultivation until, after many many centuries, they are finally able to communicate, and then take over the farms.
I would buy that argument, except <a href=http://www.press.jhu.edu/books/walkers_mammals_of_the_world/tables/text.south_america.primates.html target=new>aside from humans, all primates in South America are physically small and weak</a>. I don't even believe most of these species would survive the destruction of the rain forests, much less be able to perform the physical labor you describe.

The larger primates who were depicted in the film (chimps, orangutans, gorillas) are all African in nature.
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#3
I love monkeys.
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#4
touch my monkey......
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#5
shock the monkey...
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#6
<center><b>The Monkey Song</b>
<i>Animaniacs</i>

Dr. Scratchensniff : One Monday morning I got up late
And there were these monkeys outside the gate.
The guard tried to stop them but he had no luck
The monkeys got free and they ran amuck!

Dr. Scratchensniff : I don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!
(Yakko, Wakko, & Dot) : Don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!
Dr. Scratchensniff : I don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!
(Yakko, Wakko, & Dot) : Don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!

Dr. Scratchensniff : My office was run by the studio nurse.
I came downstairs und what could be worse?
The monkeys was doing a crazy dance.
They put buggies in my underpants!

Dr. Scratchensniff : I don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!
(Yakko, Wakko, & Dot) : Don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!
Dr. Scratchensniff : Monkeys dance then I dance too!
(Yakko, Wakko, & Dot) : Don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!

Dr. Scratchensniff : I ran outside to get a stick
But I'm telling you, friends, those monkeys was quick!
'Cause when I returned, much to my disgrace
Those monkeys had the nurse in a mad embrace!

Nurse : I don't know what to say the monkeys won't do.
Yakko : For a nickel I'll give you a clue!
Dot : I didn't know your eyes were blue!
Dr. Scratchensniff : I don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!

Marita: Yessah, whoo!
Flavio: Ah, play that thing!

Dr. Scratchensniff : I went to me bath for a shower and shave.
The monkeys goin' to put me into my grave!
The entire bathroom was laid to waste
And they shaved my head with minty toothpaste!

Dr. Scratchensniff : I don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!
(Yakko, Wakko, & Dot) : Don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!
Dr. Scratchensniff : They is crazy-nutzo, I'm telling you!
(Yakko, Wakko, & Dot) : Don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!

Dr. Scratchensniff : Then by this time I was feeling dread
They was using a shoe brush to shine me head.
I asked them to leave but they stayed around.
They pulled the chain and yee! I went down!

Dr. Scratchensniff : I don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!
(Yakko, Wakko, & Dot) : Don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!
Dr. Scratchensniff : Call my lawyer; I'm ready to sue!
(Yakko, Wakko, & Dot) : Don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!
Dr. Scratchensniff : Aaaaaaaaaa!

Marita: Yessah, brother!

Dr. Scratchensniff : Well me patience ran out and I'm telling you sure
Tomorrow I show those monkeys the door!
And if they don't leave I'm inviting you
To my house for dumplings and monkey stew!

Dr. Scratchensniff : I don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!
(Yakko, Wakko, & Dot) : Don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!
Dr. Scratchensniff : Now I'm in the stew. -- Oh, poo.
(Yakko, Wakko, & Dot) : Don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!

Dr. Scratchensniff : Watch out for monkeys, I'm telling you!
(Yakko, Wakko, Dot, Flavio & Marita): Don't know what to say the monkeys won't do!
(Yakko, Wakko, & Dot) : We're not monkeys; we're just cuckoo!
(Yakko, Wakko, Dot, Flavio & Marita): Don't know what to say the Warners won't do! </center>
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#7
That Funky Monkey!!!......
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#8
Sleeping Monkey
PHISH

The feeling's not the same,
In fact it's getting pretty tame,

It's just not that great anymore,
I guess I'll go outside
And flag a weasel for a ride,
And take it on down to the shore
Wallowing in fear,
The days and weeks that you're not here,

Was all the waiting in vain?
The day that you arrived
My sleeping monkey is revived,
But you sent him home on the train
Home on the train,

Why'd you send my monkey on a train?
The day that you arrived,
My sleeping monkey is revived,
But you sent him home on the train
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#9
Quote:Originally posted by The Brain
And to think that whenever I watch \"Planet of the Apes\", all I think of is Ant doing his Heston impression. Rolleyes

<b>EDIT</b>:
Quote:The New World Power:
Luckily, on region will survive: the Southern Hemisphere. Africa will strickly be desert for the most part, but Brazil will quickly chop down its rainforrest and convert it into farmland. At first it will use Oil from Argentina, but slowly it will be forced to turn to manual labor. It will slowly turn to simians as a slave labor, but as Darwin teaches us, those with the most desirable qualities will survive. Thus it will be on the Brazilian farms. Those monkeys will higher intelligence will slowly learn cultivation until, after many many centuries, they are finally able to communicate, and then take over the farms.
I would buy that argument, except <a href=http://www.press.jhu.edu/books/walkers_mammals_of_the_world/tables/text.south_america.primates.html target=new>aside from humans, all primates in South America are physically small and weak</a>. I don't even believe most of these species would survive the destruction of the rain forests, much less be able to perform the physical labor you describe.

The larger primates who were depicted in the film (chimps, orangutans, gorillas) are all African in nature.

I'm not saying that they wouldn't be importing any monkeys.... Get on a sailboat, sail over to Africa.... Load a boat up with Monkeys.... According to my thesis the jungle's will survive and the only men would be devoid from technology: Bushmen, Aboriginany, North Korea. And the jungles of the Southern Hemi would be free from a majority of the radioactive calamity. I did abridge it quite a bit.
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&lt;center&gt;Boy the way Glen Miller played,
songs that made the hit parade,
guys like us we had it made,
those were the days,
and you know where you were then,
girls were girls and men were men,
mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again,
didn't need no welfare states
everybody pulled his weight,
gee our old Lasalle ran great,
those were the days!&lt;/center&gt;
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#10
Yeah, but you would probably figure that if they're chopping down forests in South America for use as farmland, they would be doing a similar thing in what few forested areas there are in Africa and Asia. The primates' habitats would be destroyed to accomodate human society (hell, that's what we're doing <i>now</i>, after all), long before a cataclysm of any kind takes place. There wouldn't be any primates left to enslave as farmhands.
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