12-22-2004, 10:44 PM
12-25-2004, 05:26 AM
The Nazis had a man on the moon by 1942, and in 1945 worked with the Japanese on a one-way suicide mission to Mars. In fact, our space program was created by a Nazi scientist, one of 3,000 Nazi elites smuggled to the U.S. by the Rockefeller family. Dr. Mengele was among them--he set up a mind control lab in Florida where he bred mindless, soulless children to be used either as sex slaves or as Satanic sacrifices.
This 3,000 number has ballooned to 1.6 million Nazis, all of them in high government positions or in powerful corporations, and all bent on creating a Fourth Reich. It won't be an incredibly glorious Reich, though; they've already sold out to the greys, and when the latter finally make themselves known and take over the world, the Nazis will get 25% of the globe for their troubles.
--Why would Satan want a soulless sacrifice? Isn't that like giving wax fruit to a starving African?
This 3,000 number has ballooned to 1.6 million Nazis, all of them in high government positions or in powerful corporations, and all bent on creating a Fourth Reich. It won't be an incredibly glorious Reich, though; they've already sold out to the greys, and when the latter finally make themselves known and take over the world, the Nazis will get 25% of the globe for their troubles.
--Why would Satan want a soulless sacrifice? Isn't that like giving wax fruit to a starving African?
12-25-2004, 05:54 AM
That just seems a bit too far fetched.... which means it has to be true and is trully scary!!!
12-26-2004, 06:37 AM
On November 18, 1978, in a cleared-out patch of Guyanese jungle, the Reverend Jim Jones ordered the 911 members of his flock to kill themselves by drinking a cyanide potion, and they did.
The cultists were brainwashed by the megalomaniac Jones, who had named their jungle village after himself and held them as virtual slaves, if not living zombies. Jones himself was found dead. He'd shot himself in the head, or someone else had shot him. Square-jaw, jet black hair and sunglasses, looking like a secret service agent on antipsychotic drugs, Jones takes his place alongside Charles Manson in America's iconography of evil.
But was Jones really a lone madman as Americans are so often advised about their villains? Is it plausible that more than nine hundred people took their own lives willingly, simply because he told them to? Or is there another explanation?
Not long after the slaughter in Jonestown, whispers began--strange hints of human experiments in mind control, even genocide, and the lurking presence of the CIA. At the very least. these stories maintained, the U.S. government could have prevented the Jonestown massacre, but instead it did nothing. At worst, Jonestown was a CIA-run concentration camp set up as a dry run for the secret government's attempt to reprogram the American psyche. There are suggestions of parallel "Jonestowns" and that the conspiracy did not end with the deaths in Guyana.
Jim Jones was born May 13, 1931, son of a Ku Klux Klansman in Lynn, Indiana. His mother, he claimed, was a Cherokee Indian. That has never been verified.
An unsupervised child, Jones became fascinated by church work at an early age. By 1963 he had his own congregation in Indianapolis: The People's Temple Full Gospel Church. It was an interracial congregation, something then unheard of in Indiana. Young Jim Jones crusaded tirelessly on behalf of blacks. He also suffered from mysterious fainting spells, heeded advice from extraterrestrials, practiced faith healing, and experienced visions of nuclear holocaust.
Certain that Armageddon was imminent, that Indianapolis itself was to be the target of attack, Jones sought guidance. He found it in the January 1962 issue of Esquire magazine. An article in the occasionally ironic men's mag named the nine safest places in the world to get away from the stresses and anxieties of nuclear confrontation. One of those retreats was Brazil. Intimations of Jones's link to the CIA begin all the way back there.
According to an article in the San Jose Mercury News, Jones's neighbors in Belo Horizonte, Brazil (where he lived before moving to Rio De Janeiro), remembered his claim to be a retired navy man who "received a monthly payment from the U.S. government." They also remembered that Jones--who later claimed that he was forced to sell his services as a gigolo to support his family--"lived like a rich man."
"Some people here believed he was an agent for the American CIA," one neighbor reported.
Neighbors' recollections notwithstanding, Jones's biographer Tim Reiterman says that the Jones family "lived simply" in Brazil, subsisting on rice and beans. When he returned to the United States, shortly after President John F. Kennedy was assassinated, Jones told his followers that he had spent his time in Brazil helping orphans. Eventually, he moved his church to Ukiah, California, then to San Francisco, where it became a fundraising force courted by local politicians.
Before Jones arrived in Brazil, he'd stopped in Georgetown, Guyana. Though his stop there was a quick one, he managed to garner some ink in the local media by publicly charging churches with spreading communism. According to Reiterman, it appeared a calculated attempt to "put himself on the record as an anticommunist."
Fifteen years later, he would tantalize his Jonestown flock with promises to move the People's Temple from Guyana to the Soviet Union. In a 1979 book, one former Jones devotee, Phil Kerns (whose mother and sister died at Jonestown), raises the possibility of a Soviet conspiracy behind Jonestown.
"Jones was a Marxist," Kerns wrote, "who had numerous contacts with officials of both the Cuban and Soviet governments." Among other suspicious facts, Kerns notes that shortly before the massacre two People's Temple members spirited $500,000 out of the cult's colony to the Soviet embassy.
Jones's deputies did meet frequently with Soviet officials--so frequently, in fact, that they became a running joke in Guyana's diplomatic circles. Jones told his followers that the CIA had "infiltrated" Jonestown.
Later, as we'll see, others raised the possibility that Jonestown was the CIA.
The temple's dalliance with the Soviets, however, is a wholly plausible point of contact between the cult and the Agency. Reiterman, a skeptic of the conspiracy theory, points out that "the CIA's presence in socialist Guyana...could be assumed." They certainly would have taken an interest in the temple's Soviet contacts.
Why exactly was Jones interested in the Soviets? He must have known that his professed dream of moving the temple to the U.S.S.R. was only that, a dream. He dropped it quickly in favor of mass suicide (a follower asked Jones, shortly before the suicides, if it weren't possible to forget the whole thing and escape to Russia; Jones said it wasn't). If the CIA had infiltrated the temple, or if the temple was, even in part, a CIA operation, then members' sojourns to the Soviet embassy would have had a more pragmatic purpose.
The CIA was first with news out of Jonestown, reporting the mass suicides. The suicides followed an attack, ordered by Jones, on a party led by Congressman Leo Ryan, in Guyana to investigate alleged human rights abuses at Jonestown. The gunmen struck at Port Kaituma airfield, as the Ryan party was preparing to depart. Ryan was assassinated in the attack. Four others died as well. Several more were shot, including Reiterman, then a reporter for the San Francisco Examiner. Among the wounded was U.S. embassy official Richard Dwyer.
Wounded, but ambulatory.
Did Dwyer stroll back to Jonestown after the airstrip assault? Was he there during the massacre? Reportedly, at one point on a tape recorded as the killings began, Jones's own voice commands, "Get Dwyer out of here!" Reiterman assumes that this was a "mistake" on Jones's part, that Dwyer was not actually there. If he was, however, the implications are chilling.
Dwyer was an agent of the CIA.
For his part, Dwyer neither confirms nor denies that he was a CIA agent, but he was identified in the 1968 edition of Who's Who in the CIA. A month after the massacre the San Mateo Times, a Bay Area newspaper (hometown paper of Leo Ryan), reported that "State Department officials acknowledge that a CIA agent was dispatched to Jonestown within minutes of the airstrip assault." Dwyer denied to the Times that he was there at the time. According to one report, Dwyer's next stop after Guyana was Grenada.
Nor was Dwyer necessarily the only intelligence-connected character in Guyana. The U.S. ambassador himself, John Burke, later went to work for the "intelligence community staff" of the CIA. Richard McCoy, another embassy official, has acknowledged his counterintelligence work for the U.S. Air Force. The socialist government of Guyana had piqued the interest of U.S. intelligence for years. If there were covert operations going on there, no one should be surprised.
Leo Ryan's aide Joseph Holsinger feared that the CIA might have been running a covert operation there so sinister it would shock even hardened CIA-watchdogs. In 1980 Holsinger, who'd already discovered Dwyer's presence at Jonestown, received a paper from a professor at U.C. Berkeley. Called "The Penal Colony," the paper detailed how the CIA's mind-control program, code-named MK-ULTRA, was not stopped in 1973, as the CIA had told Congress. Instead, the paper reported, it had merely been transferred out of public hospitals and prisons into the more secure confines of religious cults.
Jonestown, Holsinger believed, was one of those cults.
There were large amounts of psychoactive, i.e., mind-control, drugs found on the site of the suicides. Larry Layton, the Jones lieutenant who became the only person charged in any of the killings (he was in the airstrip hit team, and somehow survived the Jonestown massacre), was described as sinking into a "posthypnotic trance" as he sunk ever deeper under Jones's spell. Layton's own father called him "a robot."
Layton's brother-in-law, the man who arranged the lease on Jonestown with the Guyanese government for Jones, was reportedly a mercenary for the CIA-backed UNITA rebels in Angola. Layton's father, according to Holsinger, was the biochemist in charge of chemical warfare for the U.S. Army at its Dugway Proving Ground in Utah.
Jones himself, the supposed Soviet sympathizer, was once a fundraiser for Richard Nixon, around the same time Jones declared himself the reincarnation of both Jesus and Lenin.
Then there was the problem of the bodies. The Jonestown body count jumped by about four hundred within two days after the suicides, leading to speculation that escapees may have been hunted down and killed. In any case, Guyanese coroner Leslie Mootoo testified that as many as seven hundred of the dead appeared to have been forcibly killed, not "suicides" at all.
"I believe that it is possible that Jonestown may have been a mind-control experiment," Holsinger said in a 1980 lecture, "that Leo Ryan's congressional visit pierced that veil and would have resulted in its exposure, and that our government, or its agent the CIA, deemed it necessary to wipe out over nine hundred American citizens to protect the secrecy of the operation. "
The "operation," if there was one, may have continued after the suicides. There have been attempts to repopulate Jonestown with Dominican and Indochinese refugees, backed by the Billy Graham organization. There was a Jonestown doppelganger in Guyana even while Jones was still in business. Self-styled "Rabbi" David Hill, with his eight thousand-member Nation of Israel cult, was powerful enough to earn the nickname "vice prime minister" in his travels through the country.
One final, weird note: A memo that allegedly passed between Jones and People's Temple lawyer Mark Lane (who escaped the massacre) showed the two pondering the relocation of Grace Walden to Jonestown. Walden was a key witness to the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. Lane represented King's accused assassin, James Earl Ray. When the memo turned up, Lane denied that he had discussed moving Walden. (He claims that the memo was part of an "army intelligence coverup" of the King assassination, ostensibly an attempt to discredit him and, through him, Walden.) Most of the People's Temple rank-and-file were black. Most of the leadership was white. Joyce Shaw, a former member, once mused that the mass suicide story was a coverup for "some kind of horrible government experiments, or some sort of sick, racist thing. . . a plan like the Germans' to exterminate blacks."
In 1980, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence announced that there was "no evidence" of CIA involvement at Jonestown.
The cultists were brainwashed by the megalomaniac Jones, who had named their jungle village after himself and held them as virtual slaves, if not living zombies. Jones himself was found dead. He'd shot himself in the head, or someone else had shot him. Square-jaw, jet black hair and sunglasses, looking like a secret service agent on antipsychotic drugs, Jones takes his place alongside Charles Manson in America's iconography of evil.
But was Jones really a lone madman as Americans are so often advised about their villains? Is it plausible that more than nine hundred people took their own lives willingly, simply because he told them to? Or is there another explanation?
Not long after the slaughter in Jonestown, whispers began--strange hints of human experiments in mind control, even genocide, and the lurking presence of the CIA. At the very least. these stories maintained, the U.S. government could have prevented the Jonestown massacre, but instead it did nothing. At worst, Jonestown was a CIA-run concentration camp set up as a dry run for the secret government's attempt to reprogram the American psyche. There are suggestions of parallel "Jonestowns" and that the conspiracy did not end with the deaths in Guyana.
Jim Jones was born May 13, 1931, son of a Ku Klux Klansman in Lynn, Indiana. His mother, he claimed, was a Cherokee Indian. That has never been verified.
An unsupervised child, Jones became fascinated by church work at an early age. By 1963 he had his own congregation in Indianapolis: The People's Temple Full Gospel Church. It was an interracial congregation, something then unheard of in Indiana. Young Jim Jones crusaded tirelessly on behalf of blacks. He also suffered from mysterious fainting spells, heeded advice from extraterrestrials, practiced faith healing, and experienced visions of nuclear holocaust.
Certain that Armageddon was imminent, that Indianapolis itself was to be the target of attack, Jones sought guidance. He found it in the January 1962 issue of Esquire magazine. An article in the occasionally ironic men's mag named the nine safest places in the world to get away from the stresses and anxieties of nuclear confrontation. One of those retreats was Brazil. Intimations of Jones's link to the CIA begin all the way back there.
According to an article in the San Jose Mercury News, Jones's neighbors in Belo Horizonte, Brazil (where he lived before moving to Rio De Janeiro), remembered his claim to be a retired navy man who "received a monthly payment from the U.S. government." They also remembered that Jones--who later claimed that he was forced to sell his services as a gigolo to support his family--"lived like a rich man."
"Some people here believed he was an agent for the American CIA," one neighbor reported.
Neighbors' recollections notwithstanding, Jones's biographer Tim Reiterman says that the Jones family "lived simply" in Brazil, subsisting on rice and beans. When he returned to the United States, shortly after President John F. Kennedy was assassinated, Jones told his followers that he had spent his time in Brazil helping orphans. Eventually, he moved his church to Ukiah, California, then to San Francisco, where it became a fundraising force courted by local politicians.
Before Jones arrived in Brazil, he'd stopped in Georgetown, Guyana. Though his stop there was a quick one, he managed to garner some ink in the local media by publicly charging churches with spreading communism. According to Reiterman, it appeared a calculated attempt to "put himself on the record as an anticommunist."
Fifteen years later, he would tantalize his Jonestown flock with promises to move the People's Temple from Guyana to the Soviet Union. In a 1979 book, one former Jones devotee, Phil Kerns (whose mother and sister died at Jonestown), raises the possibility of a Soviet conspiracy behind Jonestown.
"Jones was a Marxist," Kerns wrote, "who had numerous contacts with officials of both the Cuban and Soviet governments." Among other suspicious facts, Kerns notes that shortly before the massacre two People's Temple members spirited $500,000 out of the cult's colony to the Soviet embassy.
Jones's deputies did meet frequently with Soviet officials--so frequently, in fact, that they became a running joke in Guyana's diplomatic circles. Jones told his followers that the CIA had "infiltrated" Jonestown.
Later, as we'll see, others raised the possibility that Jonestown was the CIA.
The temple's dalliance with the Soviets, however, is a wholly plausible point of contact between the cult and the Agency. Reiterman, a skeptic of the conspiracy theory, points out that "the CIA's presence in socialist Guyana...could be assumed." They certainly would have taken an interest in the temple's Soviet contacts.
Why exactly was Jones interested in the Soviets? He must have known that his professed dream of moving the temple to the U.S.S.R. was only that, a dream. He dropped it quickly in favor of mass suicide (a follower asked Jones, shortly before the suicides, if it weren't possible to forget the whole thing and escape to Russia; Jones said it wasn't). If the CIA had infiltrated the temple, or if the temple was, even in part, a CIA operation, then members' sojourns to the Soviet embassy would have had a more pragmatic purpose.
The CIA was first with news out of Jonestown, reporting the mass suicides. The suicides followed an attack, ordered by Jones, on a party led by Congressman Leo Ryan, in Guyana to investigate alleged human rights abuses at Jonestown. The gunmen struck at Port Kaituma airfield, as the Ryan party was preparing to depart. Ryan was assassinated in the attack. Four others died as well. Several more were shot, including Reiterman, then a reporter for the San Francisco Examiner. Among the wounded was U.S. embassy official Richard Dwyer.
Wounded, but ambulatory.
Did Dwyer stroll back to Jonestown after the airstrip assault? Was he there during the massacre? Reportedly, at one point on a tape recorded as the killings began, Jones's own voice commands, "Get Dwyer out of here!" Reiterman assumes that this was a "mistake" on Jones's part, that Dwyer was not actually there. If he was, however, the implications are chilling.
Dwyer was an agent of the CIA.
For his part, Dwyer neither confirms nor denies that he was a CIA agent, but he was identified in the 1968 edition of Who's Who in the CIA. A month after the massacre the San Mateo Times, a Bay Area newspaper (hometown paper of Leo Ryan), reported that "State Department officials acknowledge that a CIA agent was dispatched to Jonestown within minutes of the airstrip assault." Dwyer denied to the Times that he was there at the time. According to one report, Dwyer's next stop after Guyana was Grenada.
Nor was Dwyer necessarily the only intelligence-connected character in Guyana. The U.S. ambassador himself, John Burke, later went to work for the "intelligence community staff" of the CIA. Richard McCoy, another embassy official, has acknowledged his counterintelligence work for the U.S. Air Force. The socialist government of Guyana had piqued the interest of U.S. intelligence for years. If there were covert operations going on there, no one should be surprised.
Leo Ryan's aide Joseph Holsinger feared that the CIA might have been running a covert operation there so sinister it would shock even hardened CIA-watchdogs. In 1980 Holsinger, who'd already discovered Dwyer's presence at Jonestown, received a paper from a professor at U.C. Berkeley. Called "The Penal Colony," the paper detailed how the CIA's mind-control program, code-named MK-ULTRA, was not stopped in 1973, as the CIA had told Congress. Instead, the paper reported, it had merely been transferred out of public hospitals and prisons into the more secure confines of religious cults.
Jonestown, Holsinger believed, was one of those cults.
There were large amounts of psychoactive, i.e., mind-control, drugs found on the site of the suicides. Larry Layton, the Jones lieutenant who became the only person charged in any of the killings (he was in the airstrip hit team, and somehow survived the Jonestown massacre), was described as sinking into a "posthypnotic trance" as he sunk ever deeper under Jones's spell. Layton's own father called him "a robot."
Layton's brother-in-law, the man who arranged the lease on Jonestown with the Guyanese government for Jones, was reportedly a mercenary for the CIA-backed UNITA rebels in Angola. Layton's father, according to Holsinger, was the biochemist in charge of chemical warfare for the U.S. Army at its Dugway Proving Ground in Utah.
Jones himself, the supposed Soviet sympathizer, was once a fundraiser for Richard Nixon, around the same time Jones declared himself the reincarnation of both Jesus and Lenin.
Then there was the problem of the bodies. The Jonestown body count jumped by about four hundred within two days after the suicides, leading to speculation that escapees may have been hunted down and killed. In any case, Guyanese coroner Leslie Mootoo testified that as many as seven hundred of the dead appeared to have been forcibly killed, not "suicides" at all.
"I believe that it is possible that Jonestown may have been a mind-control experiment," Holsinger said in a 1980 lecture, "that Leo Ryan's congressional visit pierced that veil and would have resulted in its exposure, and that our government, or its agent the CIA, deemed it necessary to wipe out over nine hundred American citizens to protect the secrecy of the operation. "
The "operation," if there was one, may have continued after the suicides. There have been attempts to repopulate Jonestown with Dominican and Indochinese refugees, backed by the Billy Graham organization. There was a Jonestown doppelganger in Guyana even while Jones was still in business. Self-styled "Rabbi" David Hill, with his eight thousand-member Nation of Israel cult, was powerful enough to earn the nickname "vice prime minister" in his travels through the country.
One final, weird note: A memo that allegedly passed between Jones and People's Temple lawyer Mark Lane (who escaped the massacre) showed the two pondering the relocation of Grace Walden to Jonestown. Walden was a key witness to the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. Lane represented King's accused assassin, James Earl Ray. When the memo turned up, Lane denied that he had discussed moving Walden. (He claims that the memo was part of an "army intelligence coverup" of the King assassination, ostensibly an attempt to discredit him and, through him, Walden.) Most of the People's Temple rank-and-file were black. Most of the leadership was white. Joyce Shaw, a former member, once mused that the mass suicide story was a coverup for "some kind of horrible government experiments, or some sort of sick, racist thing. . . a plan like the Germans' to exterminate blacks."
In 1980, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence announced that there was "no evidence" of CIA involvement at Jonestown.
12-26-2004, 04:25 PM
That was really interesting, thats the type of shit I love to read.
12-26-2004, 04:45 PM
Quote:Jones takes his place alongside Charles Manson in America's iconography of evil.
Propaganda
12-26-2004, 05:51 PM
Atleast one of them got his hands a little dirty, manson was a fuckin wuss the likes of saddam hiding out in a hole and begging for his life.
12-27-2004, 03:32 AM
yeah, i enjoyed that one
12-27-2004, 04:52 AM
I actually enjoyed the Gleason one as well though I may be biased being such a fan of the man himself.
12-27-2004, 07:09 AM
HAARP
It's called the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project. What could be more innocuous than researching the Northern Lights, right?
Depends on who you ask.
HAARP is a research program based in Alaska to "study the ionosphere" and aurora effects in the atmosphere. It's run jointly by the Air Force and the Navy. If you're wondering why the Air Force and the Navy care about aurorae, you're not the only one.
There is, of course, a perfectly reasonable explanation. According to HAARP (which unlike many insidious government conspiracies, has its own Web site), "Because the DoD (Depoartment of Defense) operates numerous communication and navigation systems whose signals either depend on reflection from the ionosphere or must pass through the ionosphere to satellites, there is obvious DoD interest in understanding the ionosphere's effect on these systems to improve their reliability and performance."
Now that we've got the reasonableness out of the way, lets look at why HAARP is up there with Area 51 in terms of conspiratorial splendor.
First off, there's the basic nature of the project. It's scores of radio antenna pumping massive high-frequency directional broadcasts into the air for the purpose of heating the ionosphere. Yes, that's right — it's blasting electromagnetic radiation into the sky to "microwave" the outer layer atmosphere. Starting to sound less innocuous?
Some people, purporting to be government employees with privileged information, have claimed that HAARP is actually some sort of massive destructor beam for a nefarious purpose.
HAARP claims that the supposed 3,600 kilowatts of energy originating from the project are completely harmless (detractors claim it's more like a gigawatt) and far less than the normal variation in ionospheric radiation. Which raises the question of why they don't just study those normal variations.
The claims about HAARP made by these ubiquitous people-in-the-know boil down to the following bullet points:
<li>HAARP is a giant death ray, based on a design contained in the notes of inventor Nikola Tesla, seized by the FBI after his death. This is a very popular theory, probably because so much of it is actually true. Tesla claimed to have developed a death ray with a very similar configuration to HAARP's actual configuration, and the seizure of his scientific papers is a matter of public record.
<li>HAARP is a weather-control machine. There's a certain logic to this one as well. If a butterfly's wings beating in Tibet can cause el Nino, then a gigawatt of electromagnetic radiation ought to be good for something.
<li>HAARP is an earthquake machine. Also based on a bunch of weird stuff Tesla discovered. Somewhat offset by the fact the HAARP array is clearly pointed at the sky.
<li>HAARP is a doomsday machine ripping a hole in the earth's atmosphere. Colorful, but scienfitically questionable. How do you rip a hole in air?
<li>HAARP has something to do with UFOs. Either signalling them, blasting them from the skies, or feeding babies to them.
<li>HAARP is a giant Mind Control broadcasting machine. Appealing, but if it works, why are people still such assholes?
It's called the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project. What could be more innocuous than researching the Northern Lights, right?
Depends on who you ask.
HAARP is a research program based in Alaska to "study the ionosphere" and aurora effects in the atmosphere. It's run jointly by the Air Force and the Navy. If you're wondering why the Air Force and the Navy care about aurorae, you're not the only one.
There is, of course, a perfectly reasonable explanation. According to HAARP (which unlike many insidious government conspiracies, has its own Web site), "Because the DoD (Depoartment of Defense) operates numerous communication and navigation systems whose signals either depend on reflection from the ionosphere or must pass through the ionosphere to satellites, there is obvious DoD interest in understanding the ionosphere's effect on these systems to improve their reliability and performance."
Now that we've got the reasonableness out of the way, lets look at why HAARP is up there with Area 51 in terms of conspiratorial splendor.
First off, there's the basic nature of the project. It's scores of radio antenna pumping massive high-frequency directional broadcasts into the air for the purpose of heating the ionosphere. Yes, that's right — it's blasting electromagnetic radiation into the sky to "microwave" the outer layer atmosphere. Starting to sound less innocuous?
Some people, purporting to be government employees with privileged information, have claimed that HAARP is actually some sort of massive destructor beam for a nefarious purpose.
HAARP claims that the supposed 3,600 kilowatts of energy originating from the project are completely harmless (detractors claim it's more like a gigawatt) and far less than the normal variation in ionospheric radiation. Which raises the question of why they don't just study those normal variations.
The claims about HAARP made by these ubiquitous people-in-the-know boil down to the following bullet points:
<li>HAARP is a giant death ray, based on a design contained in the notes of inventor Nikola Tesla, seized by the FBI after his death. This is a very popular theory, probably because so much of it is actually true. Tesla claimed to have developed a death ray with a very similar configuration to HAARP's actual configuration, and the seizure of his scientific papers is a matter of public record.
<li>HAARP is a weather-control machine. There's a certain logic to this one as well. If a butterfly's wings beating in Tibet can cause el Nino, then a gigawatt of electromagnetic radiation ought to be good for something.
<li>HAARP is an earthquake machine. Also based on a bunch of weird stuff Tesla discovered. Somewhat offset by the fact the HAARP array is clearly pointed at the sky.
<li>HAARP is a doomsday machine ripping a hole in the earth's atmosphere. Colorful, but scienfitically questionable. How do you rip a hole in air?
<li>HAARP has something to do with UFOs. Either signalling them, blasting them from the skies, or feeding babies to them.
<li>HAARP is a giant Mind Control broadcasting machine. Appealing, but if it works, why are people still such assholes?
12-28-2004, 05:05 AM
1.21 gigawatts!!!
12-28-2004, 06:04 AM
A little something from Mack, someone I know from another board who has some rather interesting things to say:
Yeah heavy metal was feel good buzz-heavy watered-down metal for delinquent white trash, never getting much further than killing a squirrel and nailing him to a homemade cross. These Satanists, more appropriately named Luciferians as the Satanist term has gotten kinda trashed by trashy types the past couple decades, they are heavy duty suit-and-tie guys who systematically molest children. Jon Benet Ramsey's dad was heavy into them, and worked for some subsidiary of Lockheed Martin, and when they checked out his office, like three-quarters of the computers there were loaded with kiddie porn. The abuse of children is not simply for sexual kicks, but to create slaves, because the brain compartmentalizes, creating this chamber where the bad things happen that the mind shuts off consciously. In other words, the child learns to lock this up since they can't escape the abuse, so it's a psychological self-preservation deal. But once this compartmentalized brain is created, the Luciferians can use that section to send messages to each other, completely untraceable, as the recipient molests the messenger, who has been transported as told on simple family business, and then reveals what he/she has hidden inside their own mind. Very sinister stuff. Bohemian Grove is like a lightweight picnic based on this type of shit, with Lucifer replaced by Moloch the Owl God.
As for the black helicopters, they've been much more active lately. They've been by my house a couple times this past summer, training. And my buddy about forty minutes away towards Richmond right off the interstate, he's called me twice in the last week to let me hear it roaring over top his house, no lights at all, no markings, but it's a goddamned helicopter, I can hear the rotors chopping air over the phone. The odd thing is there's a closed pull-off off of I-64 between Charlottesville and Richmond near where this dude lives that I've always wanted to check out because it says no trespassing and is gated up like crazy. And I had read this interview with a trucker a few years back where he talked about being led into an underground tunnel somewhere between C-ville and Richmond, and he drove another hundred miles or so underground, and dropped off his trailer and was escorted out and came out near the West Virginia line somewhere on I-81.
The Eagles and the Steve Miller Band are the heavyweights of Satanism, most definitely. The Dead was more a tool of the CIA to circulate LSD, a product mass produced under orders of the CIA, and used to weaken the will of the revolting youth. Once they saw all these different possibilities of reality, it sort of paralyzes your activism because it seems meaningless in the big picture.
If you want to get into conspiracies and music, you should do some searching into the white slave trade and how heavily involved the country group Alabama was behind that. Sad sad stuff, them betraying all those pure-hearted Southerners like that, and shipping their daughters off to be whores in Italian brothels.
Yeah heavy metal was feel good buzz-heavy watered-down metal for delinquent white trash, never getting much further than killing a squirrel and nailing him to a homemade cross. These Satanists, more appropriately named Luciferians as the Satanist term has gotten kinda trashed by trashy types the past couple decades, they are heavy duty suit-and-tie guys who systematically molest children. Jon Benet Ramsey's dad was heavy into them, and worked for some subsidiary of Lockheed Martin, and when they checked out his office, like three-quarters of the computers there were loaded with kiddie porn. The abuse of children is not simply for sexual kicks, but to create slaves, because the brain compartmentalizes, creating this chamber where the bad things happen that the mind shuts off consciously. In other words, the child learns to lock this up since they can't escape the abuse, so it's a psychological self-preservation deal. But once this compartmentalized brain is created, the Luciferians can use that section to send messages to each other, completely untraceable, as the recipient molests the messenger, who has been transported as told on simple family business, and then reveals what he/she has hidden inside their own mind. Very sinister stuff. Bohemian Grove is like a lightweight picnic based on this type of shit, with Lucifer replaced by Moloch the Owl God.
As for the black helicopters, they've been much more active lately. They've been by my house a couple times this past summer, training. And my buddy about forty minutes away towards Richmond right off the interstate, he's called me twice in the last week to let me hear it roaring over top his house, no lights at all, no markings, but it's a goddamned helicopter, I can hear the rotors chopping air over the phone. The odd thing is there's a closed pull-off off of I-64 between Charlottesville and Richmond near where this dude lives that I've always wanted to check out because it says no trespassing and is gated up like crazy. And I had read this interview with a trucker a few years back where he talked about being led into an underground tunnel somewhere between C-ville and Richmond, and he drove another hundred miles or so underground, and dropped off his trailer and was escorted out and came out near the West Virginia line somewhere on I-81.
The Eagles and the Steve Miller Band are the heavyweights of Satanism, most definitely. The Dead was more a tool of the CIA to circulate LSD, a product mass produced under orders of the CIA, and used to weaken the will of the revolting youth. Once they saw all these different possibilities of reality, it sort of paralyzes your activism because it seems meaningless in the big picture.
If you want to get into conspiracies and music, you should do some searching into the white slave trade and how heavily involved the country group Alabama was behind that. Sad sad stuff, them betraying all those pure-hearted Southerners like that, and shipping their daughters off to be whores in Italian brothels.
12-28-2004, 02:28 PM
Slip of the lip or the truth slipping out...
Defense secretary's remark to troops fuels conspiracy theories
Defense secretary's remark to troops fuels conspiracy theories
12-28-2004, 05:45 PM
i demand mack's proof
01-10-2005, 01:43 AM
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BUSH SR PEDOPHILE SCANDAL
Conspiracy of Silence video Child sex ring that reached Bush Sr's Whitehouse.
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This documentary exposed a network of Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. This video was blocked from the air at the last minute. But here it is.
Conspiracy of Silence video Child sex ring that reached Bush Sr's Whitehouse.
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Homosexual prostitution inquiry ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush "Call boys' took midnight tour of White House.
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A True Story About Sex, Child Abuse, Murder and Drugs, Covered up By Authorities
���Conspiracy of Silence���, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada and Toronto, Canada. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired F.B.I. chief, Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved.
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This documentary, and additional documentation are available as follows:
�� Conspiracy of Silence: $25.00 * New, reduced!
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Ted L. Gunderson
P.O. Box 18000-259
Las Vegas, Nevada, 89114.
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BUSH SR PEDOPHILE SCANDAL
Conspiracy of Silence video Child sex ring that reached Bush Sr's Whitehouse.
xx | 05.03.2003 01:35
This documentary exposed a network of Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. This video was blocked from the air at the last minute. But here it is.
Conspiracy of Silence video Child sex ring that reached Bush Sr's Whitehouse.
Headline:
Homosexual prostitution inquiry ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush "Call boys' took midnight tour of White House.
Larger scans here
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There are 19 more Washington times articles text about this case available here.
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A True Story About Sex, Child Abuse, Murder and Drugs, Covered up By Authorities
���Conspiracy of Silence���, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies. Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada and Toronto, Canada. At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed. A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired F.B.I. chief, Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved.
=========================================
Video is available from here.
This documentary, and additional documentation are available as follows:
�� Conspiracy of Silence: $25.00 * New, reduced!
(Video Tape)
Ted L. Gunderson
P.O. Box 18000-259
Las Vegas, Nevada, 89114.
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01-10-2005, 04:16 AM
We're trying to get this news out!!!! (ps, give us $25)
01-10-2005, 04:35 AM
I remember some woman...I forget her name, but she says MKULTRA turned her into a sex plaything for the presidents, and she was raped by George H.W. Bush, who she claimed did lots of coke. She even wrote a book about it.
Supposedly, she was regularly raped by George H.W. Bush, including one time when Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan were present, and H.W. told Clinton they were gonna let him take the reins for a while as the natives were getting restless. This was during Reagan's second term if I remember what I read correctly.
As for Bohemian Grove, Alex Jones is all over that shit. He even has a video of him and his film crew infiltrating the place and taping their ceremony of sacrifice to Moloch, the Owl God. It used to be available on Suprnova in their documentary section, but obviously no longer.
Ahh...precious memories.
Supposedly, she was regularly raped by George H.W. Bush, including one time when Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan were present, and H.W. told Clinton they were gonna let him take the reins for a while as the natives were getting restless. This was during Reagan's second term if I remember what I read correctly.
As for Bohemian Grove, Alex Jones is all over that shit. He even has a video of him and his film crew infiltrating the place and taping their ceremony of sacrifice to Moloch, the Owl God. It used to be available on Suprnova in their documentary section, but obviously no longer.
Ahh...precious memories.
01-10-2005, 04:45 AM
so who blew up the pentagon, and with what? And where's the other plane?
01-10-2005, 04:45 AM
so who blew up the pentagon, and with what? And where's the other plane?
01-10-2005, 04:47 AM
The pentagon crash was al-Qaeda...you're just getting silly.