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- The Sleeper - 01-31-2005
Some U.S. Students Say Press Freedoms Go Too Far
By Greg Toppo, USA TODAY
One in three U.S. high school students say the press ought to be more restricted, and even more say the government should approve newspaper stories before readers see them, according to a survey being released today.
The survey of 112,003 students finds that 36% believe newspapers should get "government approval" of stories before publishing; 51% say they should be able to publish freely; 13% have no opinion.
Asked whether the press enjoys "too much freedom," not enough or about the right amount, 32% say "too much," and 37% say it has the right amount. Ten percent say it has too little.
The survey of First Amendment rights was commissioned by the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation and conducted last spring by the University of Connecticut. It also questioned 327 principals and 7,889 teachers.
The findings aren't surprising to Jack Dvorak, director of the High School Journalism Institute at Indiana University in Bloomington. "Even professional journalists are often unaware of a lot of the freedoms that might be associated with the First Amendment," he says.
The survey "confirms what a lot of people who are interested in this area have known for a long time," he says: Kids aren't learning enough about the First Amendment in history, civics or English classes. It also tracks closely with recent findings of adults' attitudes.
"It's part of our Constitution, so this should be part of a formal education," says Dvorak, who has worked with student journalists since 1968.
Although a large majority of students surveyed say musicians and others should be allowed to express "unpopular opinions," 74% say people shouldn't be able to burn or deface an American flag as a political statement; 75% mistakenly believe it is illegal.
The U.S. Supreme Court in 1989 ruled that burning or defacing a flag is protected free speech. Congress has debated flag-burning amendments regularly since then; none has passed both the House and Senate.
Derek Springer, a first-year student at Ivy Tech State College in Muncie, Ind., credits his journalism adviser at Muncie Central High School with teaching students about the First Amendment, which guarantees freedom of speech, press and religion.
Last year, Springer led a group of student journalists who exposed payments a local basketball coach made to players for such things as attending practices and blocking shots. The newspaper also questioned requirements that students register their cars with the school to get parking passes.
Because they studied the First Amendment, he says, "we know that we can publish our opinion, and that we might be scrutinized, but we know we didn't do anything wrong."
- Arpikarhu - 01-31-2005
bush's facistic theocracy is really taking hold.
- The Jays - 01-31-2005
I don't think it's a matter of them being taught it, as it is that they're all dumb to begin with, and they're just being patted on the head.
It's like a reverse Enlightenment, people just want to get dumber.
- Galt - 01-31-2005
I call it: THE ARISTOCRATS!
- GonzoStyle - 01-31-2005
I blame it all on the lack of slutty bitches in schools.
- Arpikarhu - 01-31-2005
no surprise there. slutty bitches are your answer to everything.
- white_folks - 01-31-2005
It all started when schools stopped giving out grades, to boost everyone's self esteme. Chicks with low self estem was the primary reason I could get laid in H.S.
- Arpikarhu - 01-31-2005
its a good thing that your education has helped you with your esteme.
- Galt - 01-31-2005
I think they teach about estem in buddast camp
- Arpikarhu - 02-01-2005
it's spelled estemE, you dunce!
- white_folks - 02-01-2005
spelling nazi's are so 2001
- Keyser Soze - 02-01-2005
stop it guys, you might make him get this idea that we're elitist assholes who think we are better than everyone else because we can spell.
- The Sleeper - 02-01-2005
you think you're better than me with your high school degree and knowledge of current events?!?!
- Keyser Soze - 02-01-2005
get over yourselves, OA.com ended years ago.
- Hoon - 02-01-2005
Rathergate is just one example of this.
It's getting to a point where journalism is going down the same truth stretching or breaking path as political campaign ad's do.
People are tired of it and I'm glad the youth of america was smart enough to see it and didn't vote in droves for John Kerry because Lindsey Lohan and Leonardo DiCaprio told them to on TRL.
- Keyser Soze - 02-01-2005
are you happy the rubes in middle america voted in droves for our lord and savior George W. Bush?
- Hoon - 02-01-2005
Rubes?
It's easier for you to accept the defeat you suffered in November if you pass it off on "rubes", isn't it.
Yeah, it's much harder to understand that you're a blue stater and you're in the minority.
By calling them rubes, are you insinuating they aren't up on todays issues?
That they are dumb or are you just attacking the fact that they might be people of faith?
That's pretty small minded if you ask me.
Just because someone is a person of faith does not mean they want to start the Crusades.
I would expect that those who are of faith are alot less violent then those elitist blue staters who think they have all the answers, while they sit cities with skyrocketing crime rates, factory like production of poor illegitimate babies that we are charged with taking care of and drug use.
- Keyser Soze - 02-01-2005
Quote:Just because someone is a person of faith does not mean they want to start the Crusades.
What do you call Iraq?
Those rubes are responsible for every war since the beginning of time. Religion is the root of all evil and the explanation man uses to impose his will on others.
- Hoon - 02-01-2005
Wrong.
Religion is not the basis of every war since the beginning of time.
Religion has been used as an excuse for greed, land grabbing and power.
Being an educated northeasterner who can spell, I would've thought you could see through the bullshit that's shoveled your way.
How is the war in Iraq a religious war on our end?
I se it as a long overdue necessity do to 8 years of Clinton appeasement and UN uselessness.
- Keyser Soze - 02-01-2005
Iraq is a crusade that even George W. Bush admitted that God told him to embark on. Its his own words.
"God told me to strike at al-Qaida and I struck them, and then He instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East."