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- Arpikarhu - 09-24-2005
let's say that you are walking down the street. In each hand is a hamburger tht you have just purchased with your money. Along the way you see a man who is starving. If you give him one of your hamburgers he will survive. If you do not give him one of your hamburgers he will definitely die. If you decide not to give him one of your hamburgers do you think that the government should be allowed to arrest you?
please do not answer hastily from your gut. there are some heavy implications involved in some of the answers. go read some other threads, take a walk outside, and then come back and answer.
- The Sleeper - 09-24-2005
is this a question in the "are you a liberterian" quiz?
- Arpikarhu - 09-24-2005
nope
- The Sleeper - 09-24-2005
well the answer is clearly no. i don't know how you can possibly justify getting arrested for not being charitable
- The Sleeper - 09-24-2005
and i would say that whether this man dies or not is irrelevant, since you can't possibly know that he will die, and the government cannot prove that you caused his death.
- diceisgod - 09-24-2005
No the govt should not be allowed to arrest you and no there are no implications heavy or otherwise.
- Arpikarhu - 09-24-2005
The Sleeper Wrote:and i would say that whether this man dies or not is irrelevant, since you can't possibly know that he will die, and the government cannot prove that you caused his death.the question presupposes that the man will die without your hamburger and that the government will know you chose not to give it to him. dont be a tool.
- The Sleeper - 09-24-2005
all of that is irrelevant since it isn't based in reality. you can't boil down issues by simplifying them like that.
- The Jays - 09-24-2005
Hamburger is now my property, I cannot just go ahead and give him my property just because he so happens to be dying, why does his impending death mean that he gets to have my property for nothing?
- Arpikarhu - 09-24-2005
Quote:you can't boil down issues by simplifying them like that.but you can use a simple question like that to raise questions and incite intelligent debate on an issue.
- fbd - 09-25-2005
if i see a man bleeding out of his stomach from a gunshot wound and i dont call 911, it isnt a crime. so this isnt, either
however, i would give the bleeding guy a hamburger and call 911 for the starving guy
- diceisgod - 09-25-2005
If a person has reached a point where they going to starve to death, a hamburger won't save them in fact it might kill them quicker.
- The Jays - 09-25-2005
Yeah, it's the dude's own fault for not feeding himself. If you ain't feeding yourself, you ain't really living.
- Sir O - 09-25-2005
I did something like this a long time ago
And, no arrest.
- Arpikarhu - 09-25-2005
diceisgod Wrote:If a person has reached a point where they going to starve to death, a hamburger won't save them in fact it might kill them quicker.idiot
- diceisgod - 09-25-2005
It's true though thus rendering your whole thought experiment into a total failure so now you need to go back to your old idiot schtick
- HollywoodJewMoses - 09-25-2005
what if i gave him a bite?
- Goatweed - 09-25-2005
are we talkin' McDonald's hamburgers, Wendy's or homemade?
- The Sleeper - 09-25-2005
Arpikarhu Wrote:yea this debate has been great so farQuote:you can't boil down issues by simplifying them like that.but you can use a simple question like that to raise questions and incite intelligent debate on an issue.
- Goatweed - 09-25-2005
and why not cheeseburgers?