Pollute a river and be saved! - you fucking heathens!!

[Keyser Soze]

We should ban gay marraige.
Where does it stop? Should we allow polygomy and everything else?

Theres a fairly lengthy discussion on gay marriage on this board, it was one of the nominations for thread of the year last year. I made my feelings on the subject known there. In short, I think the "where does it stop" argument is ridiculous. It the party line for conservatives. The precise challenge for morally serious people is to make rational distinctions between what is arbitrary and what is essential in important social institutions. If you want to argue that a lifetime of loving, faithful commitment between two women is equivalent to incest or child abuse, then please argue it. It would make for fascinating reading. But spare us this bizarre point that no new line can be drawn in access to marriage—or else everything is up for grabs and, before we know where we are, men will be marrying their dogs

Do you think they're all just jesus freaks doing the voting?
I think not.

No, but I believe the far right had a big impact on swinging the election and was more mobilized and emblodened to vote. Unfortunately, it seems that the moderates that I believe are the true conscience of this country did not do their duty.

Roe V Wade will never be overturned.
But you can't group late term abortions in with Roe v Wade.
There HAS to be a limit.

I'm fine with that, but the far right christian agenda calls for way more than that.

The 10 commandments are representative of our penal system.
They were already there, it's the radical minority that wants them out.
It's freakin' statue.
You can't say Janet Jacksons nipple is petty and still proclaim an statue with words on it in a court house is offensive.

Keep your religious items out of my houses of goverment. The government should not be showing preference to one religion or another especially by sanctioning a statue of religious nature. The first commandment requires that no god other than Yahweh is to be worshipped. This is in open conflict with the "first freedom" in the U.S. and Canada -- religious freedom. The second commandment, interpreted literally, punishes a man's children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren and perhaps even great-great grandchildren if the man has sinned by serving other Gods. Spreading the responsibility for one person's sin onto innocent descendents was common in the ancient Middle East. However, most contemporary ethical systems -- both secular and religious -- hold a person responsible only for their own actions. Punishing innocent children widely considered a seriously immoral act. The fifth commandment requires that children honor their parents. Many would feel that it is unreasonable to expect a child to honor a parent who was a sexual molester, a physical abuser or was guilty of neglect. There are two problems associated with the tenth commandment:
It treats women as pieces of property It condones slavery. The terms "manservant" and "maidservant" in the King James Version of the Bible refer to male and female slaves. Equal treatment for men and women form an integral part of many religious groups' beliefs. Almost all North American religious groups reject the concept of owning another human being in a state of slavery.

Again, your take that Iraq is a religious war is completely unfounded because there are too many realistic ingredients that made it unavoidable.

you need to be more specific in your response as to why my take on Iraq is unfounded.