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WoundedAngel
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posted on 07-22-2001 @ 1:24 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

While the cigarette smokers in the study were ploughing through 20 or more a day, the marijuana smokers seldom consumed more than three or four joints. Despite this, the marijuana smokers coughed and wheezed as much as the cigarette smokers. In both groups, about one in five people complained of coughing up phlegm and suffering bouts of bronchitis. (The New Scientist)


As for causing cancer, adolescent, please read this:

quote:

It's hard to know for sure whether regular marijuana use causes cancer, because it has not been subjected to long-term studies. But it is known that marijuana contains some of the same, and sometimes even more, of the cancer-causing chemicals found in tobacco smoke. Studies show that someone who smokes five joints per week may be taking in as many cancer-causing chemicals as someone who smokes a full pack of cigarettes every day. (Wu, T. C.; Tashkin, D. P.; Djahed, B.; and Rose, J.E. Pulmonary hazards of smoking marijuana as compared with tobacco. New England Journal of Medicine)






This message was edited by WoundedAngel on 7-22-01 @ 1:32 AM
adolescentmasturbator
posted on 07-22-2001 @ 3:23 AM      
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That may be that's why I said there is no concrete evidence yet that it causes cancer. But take into account chemicals react differently in different situations. There are also more carcinogens in our air that we breathe than cigarrettes or marijuana. Yet you don't see many people getting cancer from the air. Ok real bad example;). Cancer is a largely 20th century phenomen hmm could that possibly be from the air. People have been smoking cannabis for centuries yet there is no concrete evidence they did not get cancer. Cigarettes are known to cause cancer in large numbers unlike marijuana.



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spitfire421
posted on 07-23-2001 @ 9:28 AM      
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Wow, this board has changed! No more fun threads, everyone has to put in their 2 cents like anyone gives a shit. I didn't mean for this to become an anti-smoking thread (although it was a pretty good actually intellectual debate), honestly I don't care what you think about me smoking or not...I know the facts myself and I'm a big girl, I can make my own decisions.

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you people spend 100's of dollars on shit just to smoke with, 1000's of dollars on weed over a life time, then spend the rest of the day whining about how there are people in the world who need our help... DUH. stop smoking weed and give that money to a needie family. I bet you will never be able to do it, god I hate hippies!

any person who is so fucking weak as to need to smoke something to feel better/relax/ be happy should be draged into the streets and shot in front of there children.


And, you are who? Who the hell are you to tell me about what I should be doing in my life?????? I know a lot of straight-edged kids...but I don't think I've met too many as fucking preachy and judgmental as you are. I don't whine about needy people, I only care about my own life and that of those closest to me-- being a hippie is a state of mind and you obviously don't know what it's about. LOL, I smoke, you don't yet I can still spell better than you :P Oh, yeah, and as for the last part, violence is SO much better than smoking.

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I just think that if your life is so fucking worthless that you have to smoke up to feel somthing positave, your life is not worth living.

Hmm, I get the same high from smoking as a 30 mile hike, or a long kayak trip, or some great sex, or a good book, etc. etc. But since I enjoy smoking, I guess my life is not worth living. I contribute nothing to society. I have a great job, graduated from college summa cum laude, have great friends, but I'm just a waste of space...Fuck you dude, you know nothing!!!!


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King f-tard
posted on 07-23-2001 @ 11:17 AM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
Spit great topic, too bad it had to get ruined.

Heres my take:

If you like to smoke pot, then do it, it isnt good for you, but we know that, its OUR choice. Get off your soap boxes, you all are not high and mighty.

Straightedge is stupid. Thats called clean living. Know what we used to do with straightedge people in high school, we kicked their asses for trying to tell us what to do. Its our lives, and if I want to live it stoned and happy, then I will. Shut the fuck up and go back to your life. If I get cancer, so be it, I wont be happy, but I will have enjoyed my life. Jesus christ, you bring up weed, and the activists come out of the woodwork. Just take a toke and be happy.

As for smoking, I have a little bowl I got in Seaside like 5 years ago, I just trashed my 3 foot bong, due to a major non repairable crack. When I get my new house, which will be soon, we are investing in a nice glass bong.

Heres the plastic tube we broke. (at least the bottom (I took this pic and sent it to www.weedfulthings.com which was a cool site))







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WoundedAngel
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posted on 07-23-2001 @ 4:02 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

If you like to smoke pot, then do it, it isnt good for you, but we know that, its OUR choice. Get off your soap boxes, you all are not high and mighty


I really hope that comment wasn't directed towards me because I specifically said from the get go that do what you want. The only reason any debate started was because someone was misinformed about some marijuana information and I felt the need to tell them the truth and back it up with facts.
Hell, I contributed to this topic without getting off the track, as you will see by my first post.


JohnSlack
posted on 07-23-2001 @ 4:47 PM      
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Registered: May. 01
I must interject here - There is much talk about carcinogens - recent studies show that certain people are genetically predisposed to getting cancer - and the carcinogens are 'triggers' and they are everywhere. So basically if you are one of these people - one cigarette could set you off - or your cell phone or your hair dryer..

And comparing Joints to cigarettes is apples and oranges. why? filters. Compare joints to unfiltered cigarettes THEN tell me how it goes

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Sir Okonkwo
posted on 07-24-2001 @ 3:26 AM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
quote:

someone was misinformed about some marijuana information and I felt the need to tell them the truth



Misinformed?? Eh, whatever...I've been done with this discussion for a while. You think you're right, I know I'm right, let's just drink a beer and let it go. As long as you agree that it's the responsiblity of the marijuana smoker, and not the government, to decide what's right and wrong, there's no problem.

My main, and really only problem here, is idiots who say that I'll be drooling in a wheelchair at the age of fifty, or that I should be dragged into the streets and shot. That is Hitleresque ignorance which should not go untolerated, which is why I dragged myself into this pseudo-political discussion in the first place. Hell, if you care, E-Mail me (it's in my profile), and I'll go much deeper than I did in this thread. But public opinion has said, we need not have this debate here. So be it.

And again, if anyone has info on the VAPORIZER, let me know.

WoundedAngel
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posted on 07-24-2001 @ 2:08 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 01
I wasn't referring to you but I will gladly e-mail you. You know you're right? I know I'm right. It's a no win situation. The truth is that there is a lot of conflicting evidence on this topic. Some bad, some good. It's hard to get real facts.


Cap'n Fudge
posted on 07-24-2001 @ 2:31 PM      
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I don't think there's anything wrong with recreational pot smoking. I have a lovely multicolored glass pipe that does a swell job of getting me goofy.

People who eat red meat have a high risk of cancer, but no one is clamouring for it to be regulated.

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posted on 07-24-2001 @ 2:53 PM      
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Registered: Dec. 00
I'm not much of a pot smoker anymore, hell I used to smoke all the time when I was younger. But I dont anymore. F-tard ir right, do what you want. Just because you smoke pot doesn't mean you are always depressed and weed is the only thing that makes you feel happy. Shit I know lots of pot smokers who are the happiest people in the world even when they are stone sober.
And to the straightedge kids who like to start fights with people who aren't "pure" I say fuck you! Straightedge kids are the biggest group of hypocritical faggots on this planet. And you think you're tough when you got 50 on 1. But 1 on 1 is a much different story isn't it? It really pisses me off when someone tries to push their beliefs on me and try to tell me how to lead my life. I don't do it to you, at least have the common courtesy not to do it to me. To debate/discuss is one thing, thats fine. Don't preach to me though. And by the way, the majority of straightegde people are kids, as in under the legal age to purchase alcohol. Straightedge isn't a way of life, it's a front because you can't get drunk. There have been many straightedge people I know when once they turned 21 started drinkin and all kinds of other stuff. Totally broke from what they were or what they "believed" in.
quote:

From my friends:
Straightedge till you're 21

And back to the pot thing, let me leave you with a quote from Chris Tucker a.k.a. Smokey
quote:

Weed is from the Earth. God put this here for me and YOU! Take advantage man, take advantage!




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posted on 07-24-2001 @ 2:56 PM      
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quote:

Wow, this board has changed! No more fun threads, everyone has to put in their 2 cents like anyone gives a shit.



I think the board has always been this way. Anyone remember a thread back in December started by Opak about not being able to buy cigarettes that turned into a complete clusterfuck.



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posted on 07-24-2001 @ 3:01 PM      
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I figured I'd post a followup to an earlier post I made in this thread and Spitfire, Pokemon the movie certainly was a hell of an experience. Among things I remember: feeling bad for that cat Pokemon because everyone was mean to him but I don't know why also why does the cat pokemon speak in puns while all the other pokemons are only able to say their names? I laughed for like five minutes when the egg Pokemon was hungry, I cried (first time I cried from a movie) when all the other Pokemon were crying, and I think Psyduck has to be made especially for stoners.

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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 07-24-2001 @ 3:05 PM      
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The straight edge thing got completely dilluted by dumb idiots. Most straight edge kids I've met don't even know who Minor Threat is.



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posted on 07-24-2001 @ 3:21 PM      
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Registered: Dec. 00
quote:

The straight edge thing got completely dilluted by dumb idiots

Amen AM. Straightedge kids now feel that if they dont do drugs and dont eat meat and put stupid X'x on their hands, then that automatically makes them straightedge. Either which way, being straightedge is absolutely pointless to begin with. Bunch of stuck up I'm-too-cool-for-you rejects who don't eat animals or do drugs and look like they are on crack anyways. Have you ever seen some true to life straightedge kids? Ewwww they look all emaciated and malnourished and shit. Get off your soapbox and eat a fuckin steak already!



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spitfire421
posted on 07-24-2001 @ 3:28 PM      
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WoundedAngel, you're right...both sides of the debate spew out so much propaganda that it's hard to get through it all to find the "truth"
...I am not ashamed to say that I too love the Pokemon movie :)lol

here's my propaganda of the day, taken from a Total Devastation album...

quote:

Hemp Hemp Hooray... Relegalize today!

You can now grow Marijuana for medicine in northern, central, and southern California. By 56% of the popular vote. Over 4.5 million Californians voted “yes” on Prop 215. It allows you to grow for your friends who can’t grow because they’re either too ill, don’t have the space or the time. You can grow for PMS, Migraine, Back Pain, you name your ailment. All you need is a note from your physician stating you prefer nature’s safest and best medicine, Cannabis, over the pharmaceutical’s toxic corporate profits and patents. It’s there waiting for you to do it.

All the founding fathers grew cannabis on their plantations, by law since Jamestown 1619. If you didn’t grow canabis in the colonies you were fined and thrown in jail. Every farmer had to give at least a quarter-acre of cannabis to the government. You could pay your taxes with it right up to the 1820s. The very term “legal tender” meant you were bartering & trading in hemp.

Why is it an illegal act for you to grow your homespun clothes from hemp?

George Washington grew it. So did Thomas Jefferson. They both smoked it. George Washington wrote, “Make the most of the hemp seed, sow it everywhere.” Thomas Jefferson wrote in his diaries, that he smoked cannabis to relieve his migraine. It was the second most prescribed medicine until the turn of the century. The most perscribed medicine was Hashish. It was given to women for child birth. It is the most natural form of pain relief on the planet. Uh, George also wrote, “I missed pulling my male plants by two days, now I must wait another season for my Blossoming hemp.” All the pioneer settlers grew their herbal bush, you know they called it herbal medicine.

Why is that herbal medicine illegal?

It’s illegal because...

  • The petrochemical, pharmaceutical, timber, alcohol, and tobacco industries would lose as much as 80% of their profits when hemp is grown for paper, fabric, fuel, food, medicine, plastics, lumber, and lamp oil. Earth’s #1 resource is non-toxic, biodegradable, recyclable, and renewable.

  • Betsy Ross made our flags out of hemp. We all saluted cannabis fibers world-wide until the marijuana tax act of 1937. Now we salute Dupont’s toxic nylon introduced in 1938 as the synthetic hemp. We honor man’s synthetics and outlaw mother earth?

  • The USDA in 1914 said every acre of hemp saves 4.1 acres of trees for paper alone; 10,000 acre of hemp saves 41,000 tree acres.

  • Henry Ford ran a fleet of 40,000 vehicles on 10,000 acres of hemp.

  • Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel with hempseed oil; all paints and varnishes used hemp oil as the base. Let’s grow the hempseed oil...let’s grow for medicine...lets grow for the environment...how about growing for our descendants?... Hemp, Hemp, Hooray!



Bottom line, it's a money issue...


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This message was edited by spitfire421 on 7-24-01 @ 3:31 PM
adolescentmasturbator
posted on 07-24-2001 @ 3:31 PM      
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The funny thing is that Ian Mackaye never said that he wrote "Straight Edge" to tell others what to do. It was just how he was living his life and how he felt. Ahh irony at its best.



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posted on 07-24-2001 @ 3:32 PM      
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quote:

Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel with hempseed oil;
.... dude, what if God touchhed YOUR finger.

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Sir Okonkwo
posted on 07-25-2001 @ 5:25 AM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
Spitfire: If it's the truth, can it really be considered propaganda?? After all, praising the values of nature's most valuable resourse (well, after oxygen and water, anyway) should not be grouped with the brainwashing tactics of oppressive governments and dictators. I could add to your post, but even my insomniac ass is tired at 5:30. And no people, I will never give it up.:):):)

WoundedAngel: I probably should have used [sarcasm] tags with my last post. I was pretty sure you were referring to me, but that's neither here nor there. Bottom line, you rock.

StraightEdge kids: GROW UP!! Or, "Get in the coffin!!" Either one works for me. But, considering the fact that our individual existance is, for the most part, meaningless, I try to get the greatest amount of enjoyment out of life with the least consequences. For this end, marijuana is perfect. And I should be shot for that?? Heh, I scoff at such nonsense...

WoRMFACE
posted on 07-25-2001 @ 6:05 AM      
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yay. straight edge bashing! fuck all that sXe garbage.. One of the only sXe people I truly respect is ray-beez (r.i.p) of warzone..

sXe has become another stupid fucking trend nowadays.. people arent doing it out of 'respect' for themselves anymore, its because its the thing to do.. fuck them and theyr 'X' swatch watches.



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posted on 07-25-2001 @ 7:38 AM      
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Spit, cool new sig. And you really like the Pokomon movie? Ponderous. :)

Anyone know the best place to go to get a new bubbler?? I could use one.




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