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BIGBUTTMENDI
posted on 12-11-2001 @ 2:51 PM      
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Registered: Apr. 01
Don't know if anyone noticed, but the new station in New Orleans can be listened to online. If this is the case. Does syndication underground become a memory?? Just curious.

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posted on 12-11-2001 @ 2:55 PM      
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Registered: Sep. 00
whats syndication underground?


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posted on 12-11-2001 @ 3:08 PM      
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Registered: Feb. 01
If all the affiliates could provide a reliable and fast stream, it could spell the death of SU, but one feed is not going to do it.


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Dan-O
posted on 12-11-2001 @ 3:16 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Nov. 00
It's wsjz.com, and it worked for me just now. Why not take some load off the SU feeders? Not all at once though, lest Infinity find out...

oh yeah, what's up Mendi, how ya been?


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This message was edited by Dan-O on 12-11-01 @ 3:19 PM
slap nut
posted on 12-11-2001 @ 4:06 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 01
I am out at Stony Brook now (college), I don't get good reception for NEW so I usually listen online. Last week when live 365 was down I went to wsjz.com and got the show through the site, but its not as reliable unless if I was having problems with the network at school, the feed seemed to be drop out more on the sjz feed than the su feed does.

Roger
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posted on 12-11-2001 @ 5:26 PM      
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quote:

Not all at once though, lest Infinity find out...


Infinty can know about it. There's nothing they can do. This one's totally kosher and not illegal.


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posted on 12-11-2001 @ 5:35 PM      
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I thought a 48 second delay was bad but this is more then a 3 minutes. For the people in New Orleans to participate O&A have to stay on a subject for more then 10 minutes.

And we know that goes past their attention span;)


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Enigma
Sig Pics of HOT CHICKS and an SU Feed... will wonders never cease?
posted on 12-11-2001 @ 5:46 PM      
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Registered: Nov. 00
I don't see why all the O&A affiliates (or all radio stations for that matter) don't broadcast their station off their sites. If people are gonna listen to radio on the web, it might as well be a station that people like to listen to.

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Roger
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posted on 12-11-2001 @ 5:56 PM      
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Cuz there isn't any monetary upside to it for the companies/stations, Enigma.


"One girl, I drove through three states wearing her head as a hat." ~ Garland 'The Marietta Mangler' Greene
"Hand me the keys, you cocksucker!" "In English, please?" "Excuse me?" "In English." "Hand me the fucking keys, you cocksucker, what the fuck?"
dncnbear420
posted on 12-11-2001 @ 6:03 PM      
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Registered: Nov. 00
As Roger said. There is no money in webcasting the shows. It is corporate policy not to webcast, but if they ever find a way to make it worth their while... Feel free send suggestions to Viacom to let them know how to make money off of simulcasting.


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Enigma
Sig Pics of HOT CHICKS and an SU Feed... will wonders never cease?
posted on 12-11-2001 @ 6:17 PM      
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Registered: Nov. 00
It just doesn't seem like they would lose all that much money from doing it either. And maybe in the long-run they would gain more faithful listeners for their station.

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DannyNoonan
posted on 12-11-2001 @ 6:20 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Apr. 01
quote:

Cuz there isn't any monetary upside to it for the companies/stations...


I'm sorry if I'm quoting you again, Rog...can I call you "Rog"?(no, I'm not stalking you, I just like this part of the site because I love the show:))...but, thank god for this board and the individual(s) who allows me to listen to it out here in the sticks...especially on days like today. And he (they)provide w/o compensation...

The answer to the original question of this thread is NO.:)


Roger
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posted on 12-11-2001 @ 6:33 PM      
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OK TERRIFIC!


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JackDan1974
posted on 12-11-2001 @ 6:49 PM      
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Registered: Jul. 01
Thanks for the address Dan-O





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posted on 12-12-2001 @ 6:24 AM      
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Registered: Aug. 01
I don't understand why broadcasting online should be any different than on the radio. If they play the same commercials, and run the same spots, wouldn't it be more beneficial to the sponsers because more people could hear them? And then the station could charge more for the airtime cause it would be going out to more people.



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posted on 12-12-2001 @ 6:55 AM      
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Not sure I completely understand the money thing. Yes, they would not get paid from another city buying their show, but wouldn't it incress their listening base and make their advertising rate/minute go up. Maybe there is no way to measure how many people listen on a computer. What do I know, I'm an idiot.
BIGBUTTMENDI
posted on 12-12-2001 @ 8:27 AM      
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Registered: Apr. 01
There is one good thing about them being online through the website, This station plays awesome music all day long!!!!

snortin norton
posted on 12-12-2001 @ 10:03 AM      
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Registered: Oct. 01
i'm sure as we speak, Infinity has a crack team of experts studying ways to make money off of online radio. :(

I've decided to increase my post count, because I'm going to quit this job anyways. Why not get some status??
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posted on 12-12-2001 @ 12:27 PM      
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quote:

Maybe there is no way to measure how many people listen on a computer.
Actually, I believe it it much easier... every person that tuned in via computer should have their IP registered with whoever is broadcasting the signal... to the best of my knowlege, any of the guys who broadcast an SU feed can tell you exactly how many listeners thay have at any given time... but I could just be a Moron...



How about a positive LSD story, that would be newsworthy. Don't you think? Anybody think that? Just once, to hear a positive LSD story. "Today, a young man on acid, realised that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves... here's Tom with the weather." -- Bill Hicks




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posted on 12-12-2001 @ 12:51 PM      
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quote:

the guys who broadcast an SU feed can tell you exactly how many listeners thay have at any given time... but I could just be a Moron



That is correct Mr. Moron.

Current Stream Information
Server Status: Server is currently up and public.
Stream Status: Stream is up at 24 kbps with 16 of 64 listeners (16 unique)
Listener Peak: 18
Average Listen Time: 1h 47m 36s
Stream Title: Av8er Radio
Stream Genre: S.U.





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posted on 12-12-2001 @ 2:09 PM      
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quote:

Current Stream Information
Server Status: Server is currently up and public.
Stream Status: Stream is up at 24 kbps with 16 of 64 listeners (16 unique)
Listener Peak: 18
Average Listen Time: 1h 47m 36s
Stream Title: Av8er Radio
Stream Genre: S.U




How about a positive LSD story, that would be newsworthy. Don't you think? Anybody think that? Just once, to hear a positive LSD story. "Today, a young man on acid, realised that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves... here's Tom with the weather." -- Bill Hicks




Enigma
Sig Pics of HOT CHICKS and an SU Feed... will wonders never cease?
posted on 12-12-2001 @ 2:21 PM      
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Registered: Nov. 00
quote:

I don't understand why broadcasting online should be any different than on the radio. If they play the same commercials, and run the same spots, wouldn't it be more beneficial to the sponsers because more people could hear them?

I agree...It is pretty obvious that people are listening to music/O&A/other shit on the internet anyways, so why not just run a stream for your station on the web to try and hit a bigger market. It couldn't cost that much to do it.

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ElRayoX
posted on 12-13-2001 @ 10:39 AM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Aug. 01
quote:

I agree...It is pretty obvious that people are listening to music/O&A/other shit on the internet anyways, so why not just run a stream for your station on the web to try and hit a bigger market. It couldn't cost that much to do it.


I've been "net streaming" for a couple of years now. The answer to this question is more complex than you might think, even setting aside factors such as bandwidth and streaming technology.

In the beginning, I could find a lot of stations that were streaming nationally syndicated content over the net, but it's just about totally gone these days, that is except for the stuff that has been explicitly approved for webcast (Limbo, Hendrie, Dr. Laura and the like.)

A lot of stations don't even have a web address, much less the ability to stream their content-- they're not technically able to stream. Many other stations have suspended their webcasts as a result of the Actors/Advertisers litigation (the actors in the commercials want to be paid twice when their commercials are played on the radio and the net; the advertisers want to pay only once; the stations are caught in the middle.) A typical blurb from one of these stations:

"Due to continuing uncertainty over rights issues related to the streaming of radio broadcast programming over the Internet, including issues regarding demands for additional fees for the streaming of recorded music and radio commercials, we and our advertisers are forced to temporarily disable our streaming. We apologize for the inconvenience of this interruption. We are
working with both our advertisers and the Recording Industry Association of America to find a solution to those problems as quickly as possible so that we can resume our streaming."

A fewer number of stations are still streaming their local content, music, college and high school sports, but "blacking out" the commercial spots. These stations are also required to black out any syndicated content, unless they own a right to rebroadcast, which isn't very often. Rather than stream their content, another group of stations have contracted with a webcaster(WarpRadio for example) to do the streaming. I believe this is the way WSJZ was operating, but I might be wrong.

From time to time, these stations and/or the webcasters "forget" to black out the syndicated content, (especially true after a format change) which results in an unauthorized internet feed. Typically once the rights-holders find out about this, the "feed" gets pulled down. I once had a reliable feed of a syndicated stream that lasted about 18 months. CBS/Infinity/WWI, et al have been very diligent in detecting and shutting down any unauthorized webcasting of their syndicated content by their stations. (You may have noticed that WSJZ is no longer working --at least not for me.)

BTW, this is not the same thing as Syndication Underground, imo.

El Rayo X

MendiTeats
posted on 12-15-2001 @ 12:57 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Hey everyone. Just a note ... BIGBUTTMENDI is an imposter and is definitely not me. DanO, I know you and even Big Brother Joe thought it was me but it is not. I have a good idea who it is though and we shall get to the bottom of this shortly!
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