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| Spork | posted on 11-27-2001 @ 7:05 PM |    | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01  | This big FUCK YOU goes out to the kids at Microsoft's certification branch. For the past six months I have been studying my ASS off, taking electives to recertifiy for my Microsoft Certified System Engineer status. They said from the get-go that they weren't going to push any deadlines back, that you had to have your MCSE upgraded to Windows 2000 or else you would lose your status. So these fuckers capitulate at the end after something like only 10% of NT 4 MCSEs bother to recertify (their own little "FU" to Microsoft I guess) and they decide they're keeping the old title around after all. I've been studying for SIX MONTHS! GRRR! Well, I took your free "accelerated" test today, the test that they give you for free the only catch is that it's FOUR tests worth of material in one test. This was fine and dandy when I was just doing this stuff in school, but when you've got a full time job this just licks scrot. BUT I PASSED YOUR FUCKING HARD-ASS TEST TODAY, SAVING MYSELF THE $400 YOU WOULD HAVE MADE ME PAY IF I TOOK THE TESTS INDIVUDALLY LIKE YOU SCARED EVERYONE INTO DOING. I PASSED YOUR MOTHERFUCKING TEST, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT BILLY BOY? (...Just a note in general for the true anti-Microsoft crowd out there, I do in general like Microsoft and admire their tough as nails approach to business. I don't like the communists like Janet Reno who decided to go after them and help fuck up the economy. I think their products are swell and they've done a lot of good in standardizing things. Because they are a market leader people will pay for my skills and for that I am thankful, but you're a tough bitch to love sometimes Mr. Gates) BUT, THEY STILL GET A BIG SLOPPY "FUCK YOU" FROM ME TODAY! Ahhhhhhh, that feels better.  Thank you to all the brave volunteers who brought us all together as a country, and thank you to those of you brave soldiers who will fight and have fought for our country. We are a free people because of your efforts. | ||||
| adolescentmasturbator | posted on 11-27-2001 @ 7:30 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Ah sometimes I feel lucky when I don't have to pay for any certification tests(my school pays for them if I take the course). What's really sad is that some of these tests aren't geared at people that have actually used the platform. You can literally read the material and just pass easily. There are so many people with NT/2000 certs that haven't even touched the os. quote: Glad to know that you are keeping up with Redmond propaganda.  Resident Board Socialist IM me at stickysituation2 | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 11-27-2001 @ 8:31 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Trust me, MCSE on 2000 is a much nicer cert to have. Most major companies either have moved, are in the process of moving, or are thinking about moving to 2000 because of increased usability and stability. Not to mention that if your resume says that you have the cert in 2000 PLUS you can do the job on NT4 as well, you just became a hot commodity. And AM - you're right. People can just pick up the books and pass the tests without ever touching the OS. The good thing is.... when those people are asked to do something they SHOULD know how to do.... they sit down at the server, and stare blankly into the monitor. Trust me, they're exposed for the dickheads they are quickly enough.... I've seen it happen. I've seen an "MCSE" who came with me on an NT Workstation problem.... he sat down.... I told him to open Task Manager... and got the classic blank stare. Oh, I also have greatly reduced respect for someone who doesn't know or use keyboard shortcuts. :)  "Miracles and lucky charms made the girl of my dreams the girl in my arms." - Dr. Frank This message was edited by FollowThisLogic on 11-27-01 @ 8:38 PM | ||||
| Spork | posted on 11-27-2001 @ 8:57 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | quote: Yeah, I've interviewed a shitload of people and the results are almost always disturbing and disappointing, especially those who are certified and can't tell me how to troubleshoot TCP/IP connectivity. I got my original MCSE back in the first quarter of 1998, so I wasn't too keen to have to do that whole studying thing again, and it was just brutal. BUT as you say I am once again more "marketable." It's funny though how quickly "marketable" became "lay-off proof" though isn't it? I only wish that my company was implementing Windows 2000 at a more aggressive pace, but when you're dealing with large enterprises that have upwards of 60,000 user accounts you tend to want to pursue the old "measure twice, cut once" approach. As a "techie" though it sucks when you're stuck with old stuff, especially when you're trying to learn the new stuff and certify in it. I think if you're in IT right now, unless you've been laid off, it's good to stick where you are right now. The ball is definitely in the employer's court and you won't get what you can get in 6 months to 12 months. There are very few people who have the certification that I have now and I am pretty proud of that. I want to cash in while that stays the same, but I really think that there's no cash to grab right now. Thank you to all the brave volunteers who brought us all together as a country, and thank you to those of you brave soldiers who will fight and have fought for our country. We are a free people because of your efforts. | ||||
| Spork | posted on 11-27-2001 @ 9:42 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | quote: Damn man, no wonder you dig on the socialism, everyone else is picking up the tab for you all the time :) My company slashed training budgets this year, so I received no Win2K formal training this year. It would have been nice, but I had to make do with what I had. So I just came home from long days at work and studied. Bastards won't even reimburse the costs of my tests, but what are you going to do? They'll pay for them one way or another. It is SO hard to do this stuff when you've got a job and the responsibilities that go along with that. quote: It's still hard to find a cost-effective way to bring about a test where that's the case. I mean you can't be SO mean as to make a test that is impossible to study for, but then you don't want to make a question pool so thin that everyone ends up knowing all the questions before they go into the exam. It's really hard to say - the test that I took today was extremely difficult. I guess you might have been able to cheat your way through it, but you would still have to have an EXTREMELY good memory to do so! Then you have to figure out what they're testing. With Microsoft tests, the good thing about them is that they do teach you the Microsoft way. People have criticized them for that in the past, saying that there's the "Real world way" and the "Microsoft way" but the thing people have to remember is that it's still a good idea to have some sort of "best practices" philosphy. For instance, you could set permissions to files in Windows 2000 all on a share level, or you could figure out how to properly configure NTFS permissions... there are a lot of different ways to do the same thing. They all work, but some are better than others. But the "paper MCSEs" roon it for all of thus who are actually decent at our job and just want a piece of paper to "prove" it. Thank you to all the brave volunteers who brought us all together as a country, and thank you to those of you brave soldiers who will fight and have fought for our country. We are a free people because of your efforts. | ||||
| The Sleeper Being a Minor is a Threat to my Social Life PoseUr i ahve 2 threads at teh top, i feel like maynard | posted on 11-27-2001 @ 11:09 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Funny how when I read the title of this thread, I knew exactly who was gonna respond. Hey AM, why would you even consider taking a M$ certification test ya fuckin traitor?  | ||||
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| O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00 | quote: Sleeper, you are killing me. FTL, I have that classic stare as well. But, it is only 'cause I can't handle the pressure. Keyboard shortcuts? It's just a matter of repetition. Old habits are hard to break. I hope you respect me, after I play with your mouse :)  Funny how ev'rything was roses When we held on to the guns Write To Me Here AIM: SmarterChild
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| adolescentmasturbator | posted on 11-28-2001 @ 8:39 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: You are right I'll be getting my l33t L1nUx certs soon. Resident Board Socialist IM me at stickysituation2 | ||||
| GonzoStyle | posted on 11-28-2001 @ 10:49 AM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | quote: Please, please don't burden that little mind of yours with MS certification. Baby steps you haven't even started High School yet, concentrate on the HS diploma then worry about advancing your education.  I'm Deep Inside Your Children. They Will Betray You In MY Name. She-Mail Me Here | ||||
| adolescentmasturbator | posted on 11-28-2001 @ 5:53 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | But I'm really 27. Yeah and Spork they sure can't make it perfect but they sure as hell can make it better. Resident Board Socialist IM me at stickysituation2 | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 11-28-2001 @ 9:29 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Granted, this thread was for certs, but I'm pissed and want to declare it a blanket FU to Microsoft. Have you seen commercials for the Fisher-Price Intelli-Table with Microsft Smart Technology? Fucking BASTARDS. "Miracles and lucky charms made the girl of my dreams the girl in my arms." - Dr. Frank | ||||
| Spork | posted on 11-28-2001 @ 9:51 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | quote: If they wanted to make it better, they could always do a lab-format type exam like Cisco does for the CCIE program, but Microsoft is a big market product and then you would see exams becoming prohibitively expensive. A big part of the problem is the way in which all those folks were advertising the exciting life of the MCSE and that it's your road to glory blah blah blah. I got mine before all the hype and before all the advertising was being geared towards how much the average MCSE made, etc. etc. It basically brought a bunch of career changers into the field who just wanted money but didn't get a hard-on for technology in general and as a result made for some bad techs. But there are bad CCIE's too. There are "paper CCIEs". They're just more intelligent because you have to invest more in that lab cert. Thank you to all the brave volunteers who brought us all together as a country, and thank you to those of you brave soldiers who will fight and have fought for our country. We are a free people because of your efforts. | ||||
| adolescentmasturbator | posted on 11-28-2001 @ 11:28 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: You know with the billions they make having the exams being a little less of a profit for MS isn't that bad. But alas that'll never happen. quote: Oh man that reminds me of the people in my Computer Science class who think they can make it big with just limited computer skills. The point is when people see the overhyped lies about something being a goldmine they will go there and unfortuneately it just doesn't happen. I'm just pissed at the certs for allowing people to get them without even touching the platform I'm trying to get an Oracle cert and half the fucking course is just that. It's just complete BS how some of these certs require no use of the platform and just require reading. Resident Board Socialist IM me at stickysituation2 | ||||
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