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PeterDragon
posted on 12-04-2001 @ 10:17 PM      
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is the Australian Broadcasting Company the most reliable source? Does any country that produced Rupert Murdoch inspire accuracy?

I'd feel more comfortable with a more reliable source, or confirmation.

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posted on 12-04-2001 @ 11:15 PM      
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But they have been reported to beat infants to death and still get zero punishment.


where do you get your information from???

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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 12-05-2001 @ 12:32 AM      
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It's basically the Australian Broadcasting Company. I'll try to find more resources on the death toll later when I'm not so tired.

Oh and ct . He basically beat a kid to death and got 6 months community service.


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Cunt-Twat
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posted on 12-05-2001 @ 12:27 PM      
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Korman, the chief of security at the Hadar Beitar settlement, descended on the Shushas' West Bank village in October 1996 to hunt down a group of children who had been pelting Jewish cars with stones.

am, the actions of individuals, doesn't compare to the actions of terrorists - ever . I personally apologize for the killing of a child by a jew, but what about the 4 infants that have been killed by palestinian gunmen? four children under the age of 1, were brutally murdered by palestinains, in the last year, who are haven't even been questioned by the palestinian authority.
btw, perhaps the children shouldn't have been throwing stones????

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This message was edited by Cunt-Twat on 12-5-01 @ 12:33 PM
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posted on 12-05-2001 @ 12:49 PM      
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Cunt-Twat,
Didn't you promise to go to Israel and give your life in their armed forces???

I don't condone terrorism, but I do understand it. I am a fat, lazy, middle class white male in the land of milk and honey and I am not going to commit any act of violence. But if someone took my house and my property and told me to move to Canada and find a new place to live. And I found my means greatly changed I just might do WHATEVER I could do to make the lives of my enemies unpleasant.
If you can't see that something other than violence and the erradication of the Palestinians is required to solve this problem you are no better than the terrorists yourself.

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posted on 12-05-2001 @ 1:25 PM      
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I don't condone terrorism, but I do understand it. I am a fat, lazy, middle class white male in the land of milk and honey and I am not going to commit any act of violence. But if someone took my house and my property and told me to move to Canada and find a new place to live. And I found my means greatly changed I just might do WHATEVER I could do to make the lives of my enemies unpleasant.
If you can't see that something other than violence and the erradication of the Palestinians is required to solve this problem you are no better than the terrorists yourself.


ken, by your logic, every native american has the right to fight for their land back, right?? and the mexicans should be allowed to kill americans for california, new mexico, texas and arizona, right?? in war, nations lose land, and others gain land. no other people in history ever claimed their land after it was lost in war, except the plo, which was founded in egypt, not israel or palestine.
i strongly urge you to look into mid-east history. jordan "owned" the west bank and jerusalem until june 1967, they were the first to surrender in the six day war. NO JORDANIANS REMAINED IN THE WEST BANK. the plo charter was written in may 1964 , 3 full years before the west bank was taken by the israelis. look up history before you post please.
and for the record, my 2 brothers faught in the idf, i myself lived there for 2 years. women usually do a community service typew of thing instead of the army.

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This message was edited by Cunt-Twat on 12-5-01 @ 2:08 PM
adolescentmasturbator
posted on 12-05-2001 @ 2:28 PM      
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I've never excused the acts of Palestinians either. My point is that both sides have a severe amount of blood on their hands and that one side isn't as innocent and full of virtue as the media would portray it.

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in war, nations lose land, and others gain land. no other people in history ever claimed their land after it was lost in war


This has been said before and I'll say it again. Israel lost land and regained it later. And does it make it ok to just take land? Oh I guess the Soviet Union was very well justified for putting up the Iron Curtain by that argument. And China doesn't have to give up Tibet. While we are at it Saddam should have kept Kuwait. You do realize there are international laws pertaining to these things.


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posted on 12-05-2001 @ 2:34 PM      
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the mexicans should be allowed to kill americans for california, new mexico, texas and arizona, right



Great give tequila another bright idea, let the bitches try I say.





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Cunt-Twat
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posted on 12-05-2001 @ 2:39 PM      
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Israel lost land and regained it later. And does it make it ok to just take land?
the settlements in dispute weren't occupied by anyone when the israelis settled them. the whole issue of land wasn't an issue until after arafat was in tunis. if you don't think this true, please bring proof otherwise.

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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 12-05-2001 @ 2:50 PM      
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If none of the settlements were with people in them beforehand how come Palestinians had to be cleared beforehand?


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posted on 12-05-2001 @ 3:01 PM      
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the palestinian people in question are not the palestinian people that are claiming the land today. the jordanians fled from the west bank after they surrendered to israel, the egyptians fled from gaza, and the syrians fled from the golan hights and gallilee regions after the 6 day war. the palestinians that haven't cried torture are living freely with israelis, and are unfortunately being persecuted because of the palestinian authority.

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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 12-05-2001 @ 3:17 PM      
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So you are trying to tell me that Israel isn't settling on land that belongs to Palestine according to international law?


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posted on 12-05-2001 @ 3:27 PM      
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YES. many of the settlements that were offered to arafat are were bought by israelis in the mid-70's and they have the deeds. unfortunately, many of the arabs who sold the land to israelis were killed for treason.
this isn't a dispute about innocent people, am, i have a huge problem with the palestinain authority, and their following.

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This message was edited by Cunt-Twat on 12-5-01 @ 3:32 PM
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posted on 12-05-2001 @ 3:45 PM      
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ken, by your logic, every native american has the right to fight for their land back, right??


It's like talking to a fucking wall with you!!!

Excellent example. Do you have any empathy for the plight of the Native American or do you simply view them as savages in the way of our manifest destiny.
If the spoils of war are fair game and not subject to fairness and international law.... then WHY THE FUCK ARE THE HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS trying to get money and property that were taken from them.

My point is people were displaced. There is thousands of years of religious driven tension there. And to simply say "it's ours now get over it" is never going to work.

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posted on 12-05-2001 @ 3:51 PM      
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My point is people were displaced. There is thousands of years of religious driven tension there. And to simply say "it's ours now get over it" is never going to work

well, my point is that the jews were displaced, by the romans, the babalonians, and what, they have no right to their land either?? the fact is, ken and am, jews have been in jerusalem, hebron, and safed since the time of jacob. with every exile, there have always been jews in israel. i can not say the same for palestinians.

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posted on 12-05-2001 @ 3:57 PM      
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well, my point is that the jews were displaced, by the romans, the babalonians, and what, they have no right to their land either??


You are a fucking trip. To validate your current claims, you reference deeds that date all the way back to the 1970s. You say after 30 years there should be no review no question. But then you talk about owning the land thousands of years ago and claim that is relevant.


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posted on 12-05-2001 @ 4:03 PM      
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ken the issue with israel goes way beyond 1948, and the establishment of the state of israel. the un offered the jews a home land in uganda, and they refused because of the significance of the land to the jewish people. it does go all the way back to the time of the bible.

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posted on 12-05-2001 @ 4:15 PM      
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RRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHHHHHT!!!
And many different peoples have religious claims to those lands.....Hence "the holy lands" and the Jews didn't want land in Uganda....just like the people who got tossed out of their homes might not like the lands they have been displaced to.

MomYou'dLikeToF'
posted on 12-05-2001 @ 4:27 PM      
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I am a fat, lazy, middle class white male
You are? Damn, my image of you has been shattered.
Sorry, didn't want to de-file this thread, but I just did because other than saying I agree with you I have nothing to add. My apologies (where's that stupid muzzle when you need it?!)

adolescentmasturbator
posted on 12-05-2001 @ 6:58 PM      
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Israel has an argument for the land obviously but that goes back thousands of years Palestinians have 50 years at most.


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Cunt-Twat
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posted on 12-05-2001 @ 7:43 PM      
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Israel has an argument for the land obviously but that goes back thousands of years Palestinians have 50 years at most.


exactly

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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 12-05-2001 @ 7:50 PM      
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Let's see what if Native Americans came up and overthrew the government, evacuated the population, and confisicated all property and gave it to themselves I wonder what you would say.


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posted on 12-05-2001 @ 7:56 PM      
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i would say they have every right. as a jew, i know that the only place that we can live "freely" is in israel. i'm not that comfortable living in america, cuz i know that this isn't my homeland. too many times in the past the jews got a little too comfortable in other lands, only to be thrown out for whatever reason.
we, in america forget the way we treated the japanesse durring world war 2, and the way the native americans live still today. if you have never been to palestine to see how the palestinian people live, i think that it's unjust for you to blame the israelis. i have seen the way that they live, and yes, not all of them are in the greatest conditions, however, yasser arafat, their leader has alot of money that can go to better their lives. what has he done with this money???

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PeterDragon
posted on 12-05-2001 @ 8:58 PM      
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Ken,
I understand (but don't necessarily agree ) with some of AM's points, but you simply seem to have taken the Palestinians at their word and assume that they have been forceably removed from this land. The situation is WAY more complicated. CT has explained (sometimes well, sometimes not so well) that Israel has some claims. Instead, you equate the situation with the Holocaust, which there was (by all accounts) only one side being the agressor with this situation where the Palestinians are by no means completely innocent (even AM has agreed with this point).

Were you so happy with September 11th?

Keep to the point. If you have evidence on behalf of the Palestinians, present it. I may disagree with him, but at least AM backs up his points.

adolescentmasturbator
posted on 12-05-2001 @ 10:35 PM      
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as a jew, i know that the only place that we can live "freely" is in israel.


So are you saying the USA, Britain, France, etc. all make Jews second class citizens?

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if you have never been to palestine to see how the palestinian people live, i think that it's unjust for you to blame the israelis.


I've also never been to China that doesn't allow me to not make opinions on how the government is repressive.

And a military occupation certainly isn't great for the economy.


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