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Mr. Brownstone
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 7:10 AM      
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Exploring Coprophilia


People have strong feelings about shit-- some of the most visceral, most immediate feelings people have. Yet shit is almost never talked about seriously. For most of us, the subject is as secret, as forbidden, as homosexuality was when we were growing up. This silence can become a burning issue for people who have or discover erotic feelings around shit. As they explore and speak about what shit means, the rest of us can't help but be fascinated.

IT HAS ALL the elements of sexual drama-- shattering taboos, a pungent assault on the senses, and plenty of cozy warm wetness. Plus it involves rectum and anus, not just organs of elimination, but- for gay men especially-- gateways to pleasure.

So why aren't more of us into shit play?

Nausea might have something to do with it. Even the most accomplished scat aficionados-- people who for whom smearing, wallowing in, and swallowing excrement makes them happy as the proverbial pig-- usually report that when they first tasted shit, they threw up.

"Oh, it was a challenge!" recalls David, who is 38 and lives in Boston. "The first couple of times I got into mutual shit scenes, the minute I came I went running to the bathroom and puked. During the scene it was fine, but as soon as I came, the mentality wasn't there anymore, and the whole thing just grossed me out."

Even experienced scat lovers can find nausea at the borders of enjoyment. "The goal of every true shit eater is to see how much he can eat before he barfs," contends Rob, a 38-year-old Philadelphia lawyer.

"From the standpoint of pure taste, shit is bitter," says Neal, another Boston scat fan. "And of course you always have that odor wafting up your nose. The quality of the experience is such that after ten or 20 seconds, there's an almost automatic gag response."

Hardly glowing testimonials for shiteating-- coprophagy , if you want to get technical. But there's more to it, Neal insists, for those prepared to brave this not-absolutely safe form of sexual hijinks. "Shit has another taste, which is psychological. There is an incredible connection that occurs when you are lying down on your back and there is a guy who you are very excited about standing over you, crouched down, holding his knees."

Neal continues. "He's got his anus pushed into your mouth and he starts to defecate, he starts to push shit out of his hole. There is an amazing psychological joining that occurs. This place-- the bowels, the sphincter, the asshole-- has got a primeval, primitive connection to the most fundamental things inside a man. It's so goddamn intensely personal and sexual."

As much as from stimulating genitals, erotic pleasure comes from playing games with our minds. Sex fools around with one's sense of self, identity, control, and destiny. These are all issues for which shit is a running, if submerged, theme. The polymorphously perverse infant is pleasurably attuned to the tides of its bowels, their filling and emptying, tension and release. As babies, we bawl for food and defecate with blissful irresponsibility. Then civilization imposes itself. Via the scolds and scowls of parents, the primitive joys of shit and piss are transformed into disgust. Thus, to make a long story short, are pleasure-seeking babies extruded into anxious, responsible, career-minded adults.

For most people, shit emerges from behind closed bathroom doors only in sickness or at the end of life. The shit of bedpans and Depends greases the passage from adulthood back into infantlike dependency, and finally, out of society entirely. We complete fleshly existence as the excrement of worms and microbes. As much as it is the end-product of the plants and animals we eat, shit is a symbol of demise.

With its starring role in the drama of the self's origins and ends, it's no wonder that shit is as suffused with erotic potential as it is smelly, and that scat lovers wax poetic and mystical about excremenL David recalls he first ate shit as an initiate into a secret neighborhood club of fellow 12 -year-old boys, the class of humans drunkest on ritual and magic. "Sharing shit is one of the most secret acts men have," relates Rob. "I've known guys who have actually thought of it as a sacrament."

Shit play takes on religious overtones in part because, like getting nailed to a crucifix or fasting on a pillar in the dessert, it's an extreme and testing experience. Putting shit in one's mouth is an attempt to resolve a paradox: how could something so intimately connected with the body and with food be so disgusting? It's a question as viscerally and intellectually compelling as that of God's existence in a world where millions perish agonizingly in gas chambers and AIDS wards. To believe in God or eat shit requires a courageous, and potentially unjustified, leap of faith. But only the latter can lay you low with a case of hepatitis.

As with faith, people approach shit play in steps. Cory, a 25-year-old gay man, says that starting when he was about 15, he used to fantasize about falling into the hands of a gang of straight toughs. "In my mind I would have them take control over me," he tells The Guide. "They would make me blow them, fuck me, completely dominate me, and then use me as a toilet."

When he was 17, Cory began to play with his own turds. "I would go into the bathroom, shit on top of the toilet seat or in a dish, and then while masturbating, I would lick it and smell it," he says. 'The orgasm was so intense." But afterwards came guilt. "I didn't know if it was right or if I should be doing anything like that. I still feel that way. I don't know why."

Cory said that he had never talked with anyone about his interest in shit until he responded to The Guide's query for people interested in coprophilia He has engaged in shit play with only one other man. They connected over the phone lines, ostensibly just for vanilla sex. "We were sixty-nining and I was licking his ass. He said, 'What do you want me to do?' and I said, 'I want you to shit on me.' The minute I saw it start to come out I just put my mouth on it and I let him go right in my mouth."

Cory's fantasy had come true. "It was really thrilling having this guy let me eat his shit," he recalls.

"I felt like it was a privilege to do it for him. And I actually chewed it and swallowed."

Nonetheless, Cory says he remains deep in the closet about his shit interests. His lover doesn't have a clue, Cory says, and he has no plans to tell.

For Mike, who is 23 and lives in Shreveport, Louisiana, shit happened only gradually. The main theme of the sex he and his older lover have is dominance and submission, and scat developed out of their regular SM play, with Mike taking the bottom. "I would lay in the tub and he'd piss on me", Mike says. "Then later it got to where he'd shit on me. He'd piss on me first, and then he'd turn around, and I'd be eating his ass and then he'd do it."

But it was "just the other day," Mike says, that he crossed the Rubicon and actually ate his lover's shit. "You fantasize about it, and it sounds great until you actually do it," Mike reports. The gagging was intense, he says. "To me the taste was bitter, and the overall feel of it in your mouth is real thick; it's like, yechh!" Timing was part of the problem. "When he finally did it, I was too close to coming," Mike suggests, "otherwise it wouldn't have been such an automatically gross thing." But gagging aside, Mike says he is fascinated about trying to eat shit again, next time when he isn't so close to orgasm. But Mike adds that his lover feels ambivalent about shit play, and isn't sure he wants to do it.

WITH MORE than a few bowel movements to have passed his lips, David's puking days are behind him. The 38-year-old Bostonian is a player in the small but accomplished fraternity of scat. David says shit play is his main erotic interest and activity, one that he shares with his lover, who he met on the shit circuit. With the help of Jack's Number Two , a Houston-based magazine that is the Baedecker of gay scatology, David says he has no trouble finding scat buddies. "There are about 15 people in the Boston area who are listed, and I know most of them," David says. "From the list I've gotten together shit parties, with about a dozen people. That's when my living room gets wall-to-wall plasticized, we put on a couple of scat films, and just have a good time."

David has assembled a motley crew of scat friends. One guy he knows bakes aged turds into choco late chip cookies and makes his partners eat them. Not just any old shit will do: it has to be excre ment carefully aged in a jar kept in warm place, on the radiator or a sunny windowsill. "There's one time he came over the apartment," David recalls, "and I said, 'Well, I don't have any aged shit so let me zap it.' So I put some in the microwave, and it stunk up the whole building."

Another of David's pals is into infantilism, and likes to don diapers and assume the identity of a toddler. But he has a rep for not being able to dump on demand, the scatological equivalent of chronic limp dick. "I knew he was coming over so I didn't flush the toilet that morning," David recounts. "When he arrived, I just went in and grabbed a handful and put it down his diapers and slapped him around with it. That's how he got his rocks off."

The infantilist and scat scenes are overlapping but distinct. Neal says he enjoys having a few beers at a bar ("It has to be a cool bar") and just letting go. "I find it really-exciting to be in a public place and piss or shit in my jeans," he says, "maybe because I'm breaking away from that control society places on kids when they are toilet trained." But throughout the experience, Neal says, his self -conception remains resolutely that of a grown man.

Submission and domination is also a regular theme of shit play, but "top" and "bottom" can shift places. Shitting on a partner could be a definite turn on for a top. But being made to strip, squat, and defecate could be a bottom's wet dream, also. Last spring, a scandalized media brought the scatological exploits of Philadelphia insurance executive Ed Savitz to every American living room. Did the parochial school boys who dropped their pants to squat in Savitz's pizza boxes savor their submission? Or with adolescent swagger did they relish the thought of a middle-aged fag smelling and tasting their turds? Maybe both.

"What can go on between two people gets too complex to be usefully described by 'top' and 'bot tom,'" says Neal. Some people into scat say that the sign of the true shit lover is that for them shit's erotic value gets disengaged from any sadomasochist or infantilist storyline, and just become a free -floating source of pleasure- shit for shit's sake.

"It takes someone with a really good imagination to get into scat," says Rob, who has been in the scene for ten years. No one tells you how to eroticize shit, as Soloflex ads and Ryan Idol help us to eroticize buffed muscle-boys. In this jaded, media-drenched, era where such taboo images as naked children or a man dying of AIDS are put to work selling Benetton sweaters, shit is the rare item: richly symbolic but unspoken for. Madison Avenue won't even touch shit's negative power. You'll never see Coca Cola denigrate the competition by sponsoring billboards showing Pepsi bottles with big turds floating in them, or Nike ads that show Adidas sneaks smeared in dog doo. When it comes to putting shit's latent meanings to work and forging new ones, scat lovers have the field to themselves





Two openings available at Mr. Brownstone Academy of Dance .


I see stupid people...They're everywhere...They don't know they're stupid...


This message was edited by Mr. Brownstone on 8-26-01 @ 7:21 AM
SeeYouNextTuesday
G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S.
Elite Ninja Gaiden Infiltration Unit
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 11:00 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Feb. 01
NOOOOO!!!! G-D DAMMIT! NOTHING MAKES ME HAVE DISGUSTING THOUGHTS I CANT CONTROL LIKE COPROPHILIA STORIES. Friggin OCD... sometimes I fight with myself for long lengths of time to imagine a straight line and it keeps curling up on me. Same thing happens when I try to get these images out of my head. FUCK YOU.





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"I know I'm homophobic, but not about gay guys; they don't bother me at all. It's straight guys who don't know they're gay; they fuck my shit right up." -- King Missile - Gay, not gay

DUTY FREE MEGA-MARKET, PORT BRASTA, ALPHA CENTAURI. BE LIKE THE TWENTY-SECOND ELEPHANT WITH HEATED VALUE IN SPACE -- BARK!

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Filzy
Stand up straight
Stomach in
Shoulders back
SOUND OFF!!!
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 11:11 AM      
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Registered: Sep. 00
A conclusion by Filzy...

We expect these kind of posts from Gonzo Style, because it makes us laugh.

We don't expect these kind of posts from Mr. Brownstone, hence he lives up to his status a creepy lil' bastard.



No, I don't care about your pathetic little god because there isn't one.

Now accepting two recruits for the revived Armored Division.







This message was edited by Filzy on 8-26-01 @ 11:22 AM
Fez
The sky is blue
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 11:45 AM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
up



I'm still saved....

I am starting my very own group to combat the evil of this board. IM me at fezoanda if you are interested. The only requirement is that you be me.
NJ Panther
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 12:35 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Feb. 01
(insert movie projector sound)Turn it offff......turn it offfffff......TURN IT OFF!(insert middle age man sobing)





Uhhhhh...Buttplug?
Canweseeyourstuff
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 12:52 PM      
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incest a game the whole family can play




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Shelle Bink
True star of the celebrity softball game: the redhead in section 101.
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 12:54 PM      
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Registered: Jul. 01
*curls in featl position*


Hokey Pokey In The Butt

WOWing Gets You Things...
FoundryMusicDragon
I wear a helmet and lick the windows
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 2:22 PM      
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Registered: May. 01
::looks around:: I don't know if I should laugh, or burn my computer... The horror, the horrrroooorrrr.


Thanks for the pic Jo.

Graduate of the Mr. Brownstone Academy of Dance, you've been warned.
Kim
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 3:19 PM      
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Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...



PharCyde and Droopy106 are my newbies :) Be nice to them!
GonzoStyle
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 4:23 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
I think this is a very useful post and people should pay close attention otherwise you fuck around and get drunk and bang your sister in the dark like did or get blown by a guy who you thought was a woman, it's all fun and games then someone gets a hot load in their eye.


If I could capture the rage of today's youth and bottle it
Crush the glass from my bare hands and swallow it
Then spit it back in the faces of you racists
and hypocrites who think the same shit but don't say shit
You Liberace's, Versace's, and you nazis
Watch me, cause you thinkin you got me in this hot seat
You motherfuckers wanna JUDGE me cause you're NOT me


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King f-tard
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 5:16 PM      
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So the pecking order is...

5: Horses
4: Shit
3: Rover
2: Daughter
and finally
1: Pass out and die.

I'll take 1, thanks.





Currently both of my positions are full - Dawgs47 and ashleyisthegoer are being shown the ways.
If anyone has a problem with them, let me know.
If you are interested in adoption, IM me Or E-Mail Me


I must remember to bend down at first base.
And your point is???

SeeYouNextTuesday
G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S.
Elite Ninja Gaiden Infiltration Unit
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 6:02 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Feb. 01
The dolphin one actually sounds like fun. Maybe I'll apply to the University of Central Florida after all.

Or maybe I just need a hoochie,... can someone help me out here?





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"I know I'm homophobic, but not about gay guys; they don't bother me at all. It's straight guys who don't know they're gay; they fuck my shit right up." -- King Missile - Gay, not gay

DUTY FREE MEGA-MARKET, PORT BRASTA, ALPHA CENTAURI. BE LIKE THE TWENTY-SECOND ELEPHANT WITH HEATED VALUE IN SPACE -- BARK!

Validictorian of the danked school of OA.com etiquette.

GonzoStyle
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 6:18 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

So the pecking order is...

5: Horses
4: Shit
3: Rover
2: Daughter
and finally
1: Pass out and die.

I'll take 1, thanks.



sweet then i get to rape your daughter with a shoe horn while fucking your dog in the as and jerking off your horse into my mouth all while rubbing mhy own shit on my balls in a war sign.


If I could capture the rage of today's youth and bottle it
Crush the glass from my bare hands and swallow it
Then spit it back in the faces of you racists
and hypocrites who think the same shit but don't say shit
You Liberace's, Versace's, and you nazis
Watch me, cause you thinkin you got me in this hot seat
You motherfuckers wanna JUDGE me cause you're NOT me


She-Mail Me Here

Mr. Brownstone
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 8:24 PM      
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Registered: Dec. 00
quote:

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...

Sex Guide -- Farming Tutorial


Farming is the practice of recovering shit from a public toilet that has been disabled in some way that prevents the significant turds from being flushed. As you will learn; it requires time, patients, technique, and a strong stomach.

Part 1

In order to be a successful farmer, the first problem to solve is "where". Where do people usually shit when they are away from home? Obviously, in most cases in a public restroom. There being plenty of public restrooms, the question becomes "which". Here are a few considerations: traffic, it should be fairly busy, but not so busy that there is a queue; custodian, the presence of custodians or security personnel does not facilitate this practice; "customers", are the people who use the facility an agreeable ethnic mix?; gays, is the restroom frequently filled with gays so that people who REALLY GOTTA GO have to go elsewhere?; cleanliness, people will avoid a dirty restroom if at all possible; toilet design, the facility Coprologist described so picturesquely (some while back) would be quite difficult to farm; and lastly [for now] porta-potties, don't even think about them [unless you want to get sick]. You should be able to go about your farming business in a most inconspicuous manner.

Part 2

As an addendum to "which" restroom to farm, it seems most successful when there are at least two, but preferably at least three stalls. A "stall" is the cubicle or booth [hopefully] with a door that encloses one toilet. You will probably occupy one of the stalls and since many people don't like to shit right next to someone else, there should be a vacant one in the middle. If all stalls fill up and there's someone waiting, by all means vacate the one you're in and wash your hands for an hour if necessary till someone gets off the throne and vacates the stall. It will need your IMMEDIATE attention.

Now that you have discovered the perfect place, the question becomes "when". In my many years of farming I have tried and succeeded at all hours of the day and night. Experience has shown that in the morning between nine and eleven there are quite a few contributors , but the quality of the shit is unexceptional. Perhaps these people have already dumped at home and these are the aftershocks. I have harvested the highest quality shit from the largest number of contributors in the afternoon between thirteen hundred and sixteen thirty. Usually, the best day of the week is Saturday. If you are farming at a mall [shopping center] the first Saturday after the mid-month or end of the month payday seem best. It should be unnecessary to point out that the best day of the year [in the USA] is the Friday after Thanksgiving! Wow!

Part 3

Now that we know where and when, the question becomes "how". Two factors are involved: the type of institution where the restroom is located, and the toilet design. The type of institution is an important consideration because the thing you use for short term storage and portability of your harvest must be appropriate for the place you are farming. Just as one would not usually carry a briefcase to a beach bathhouse, a shopping bag in a store where all bags must be checked or inspected would be equally inconvenient. There are actually times when nothing is appropriate! For these special cases you improvise the best you can. One way that comes to mind is loose fitting pants and a large shirt with the tails out. Yeh, just like the kids dress so they can shoplift! Be sure to ware large briefs rather than boxers.

Since you just can't stick a fresh turd in your briefs or shopping bag, without both making a mess and calling attention to yourself by the odor; I suggest wrapping and bagging. Most turds can be gently wrapped [of course after any necessary reassembly] by rolling them up in a paper towel. I highly recommend Viva brand! That done, drop it into a gallon sized zip-lock baggie and seal. Many turds will fit in the same baggie. Then put the baggie into the briefcase, beachbag, gymbag, purse, camera case, shopping bag, your briefs, toolbox, or whatever you happen to be using.

Part 4

Toilet design is an important consideration in selecting the best method for disabling. Suffice it to say there are many bad ways to disable a toilet, but only a couple good ways to do the job; and even these are not perfect. The bad ways include the risk of: overflow [too much water in, not enough out], suspicion and attention [why won't this damn thing flush, is the water turned off?], or simply being too difficult or time consuming to clean out and reset the trapping mechanism [you mean I've got to put my hand in where?]. Unless a real emergency arises [like you overhear a policeman talking about all the toilets being stopped up], do not abandon your trapping mechanism; even the maintenance men who will have to fix the problem aren't stupid and will eventually see a pattern.

What, pray tell, do we have to use? Use a plastic cup [or a pane of glass for the new low water consumption toilet, but more on this next time]. The cup must be sized properly for the toilet or you'll lose it along with your catch. Never use Styrofoam! Use [extra] shatterproof clear plastic cups of 10 to 16 oz capacity. The size needed depends on the toilet design. Use a sharp knife to cut a few small holes in the bottom of the cup; these allow water flow, but not turd flow. On the larger cups, consider slitting the side to allow for a variably sized opening of the cup and to facilitate its placement. When the toilet water is clean, jam the cup bottom first into the toilet's outlet hole, around the bend, out of sight, and wedged in place.

Part 5

The recent introduction of low water consumption toilets posed a particular problem. These use a jet of high pressure water in the bottom of the toilet bowl to rapidly start and complete the siphon and disposal cycle. The jet is so intense [around 60 p.s.i.], that many turds are liquefied in short order. Worse yet, the pressure might even dislodge the strategically placed cup. Now the object becomes protecting the turd from the high pressure jet as well as preventing it from being flushed.

Did you know that a piece of glass is virtually invisible in water? [Yes, on close inspection you can see the edges or maybe some bubbles have collected on the bottom side, but most people just don't look that closely.] A small pane of glass properly inserted in the bottom of the toilet bowl will both protect big turds from the water jet and prevent flushing of any but the smallest pieces and mushy shit. Since I like the "big ones" this is just fine. Experience has shown that the pane should be about 2 inches wide and between 6 and 8 inches long depending on the toilet design. It must be installed lengthwise in such a way that it fits all the way to the backside of the outlet hole [you cannot see this part of the toilet, but rest assured it's there] and covers the water jet.

Part 6

A day of farming includes a decision about when and where. We've already talked about that as well as how to do it. Planning is important, you will need your bag, exactly 7 [for luck] sheets of Viva towels, one or two zip lock baggies, and the appropriate trapping devices [cups or panes of glass]. You must disable all the toilets in the restroom you plan to farm or Murphy's law will prevail. Yes, the ones you don't disable are the ones where the hot dudes will go to shit. And you can set your watch on that!

OK, you're there with your junk and the traps are in place, so what's next? You wait like a hunter. Your prey will come, but you don't know when. There will be MANY false alarms. There will be many disgusting dumps. Yes, you WILL have to put your hand down into that mess to remove the trap and flush the toilet. YUK!, but it goes with the territory [I'm unharmed after doing it a million times]. Nevertheless it's essential that each toilet be promptly cleaned after being used. Sadly, about 90% of the shit trapped is not worth harvesting. Learn the kind of shit you like and be more concerned about the shit than who shat it. Frequently, it will be a hot dude, but middle aged men and youngish boys can produce a high quality product. Remember, looks are only skin deep, but we're dealing with something here from REAL DEEP inside. Think about it.

Part 7

OK, your there and someone comes in and "shits down beside you". There are a number of clues that you can use to predict the kind of deposit being made. A quick visit and little or no wiping means they just took a piss. Yes, many men do sit down to piss. You can expect the best contribution if the visit lasts from three to five minutes; they don't use a whole roll of TP to wipe their ass, and you don't hear any sounds during the dumping process with the exception of pissing. OTOH, if you hear a lot of farting and splashing, or heaven forbid, a sound like "main engine ignition of the space shuttle"; you can bank on the fact that it ain't going to be pretty. Occasionally, however, some splashing does occur with a quality product but not very often; this is indicative of a "big one" breaking up as it emerges. The "big ones" slip out quietly and are already partially in the water while still emerging from the asshole; therefore no splash will be heard.

Wow! The deposit has been made, the donor departed, and you've rushed into the stall and see the perfect turd! Yeh, that sounds neat, but more likely than not even the real keepers are buried under a mass of TP, so you will have to do some digging to make the discovery. Well, you did and you did. What next?

Part 8

There it is, the turd of your dreams, or more likely, at least acceptable according to your standards. You fetch a sheet of Viva from your bag, then begin the extraction process. Attempt to keep an intact turd intact, so proceed with the extraction very carefully. As soon as it is removed, in whole or part, give it the sniff test. As previously described, the taste of shit is closely related to it's smell [and as you will learn its appearance]. If it fails your test, you best flush it. If it passes your test, carefully reassemble [if necessary], gently wrap in the Viva towel and store in the zip lock baggie in your bag. Then, clean the toilet and reset the trap.

How long does this go on? As long as there is traffic and you want to continue. If it's in the afternoon much past sixteen thirty and there's not much traffic, you're probably wasting your time. After you call it a day, remove all your traps and walk out of the place just like you owned it. Unless you were stupid enough to get shit smeared all over yourself or your bag, nobody will have a clue about what you're carrying; so don't get paranoid.

Well, it sounds like a plan. What could possibly go wrong? ... Just about everything!

Parts 9 & 10

The "top ten" problems encountered while farming. I decided to conclude this series at part "ten" in honor of the "perfect 10" I harvested yesterday [which is now sometime last summer] that is now part of me.

10. You farmed all day and didn't get a damn thing. [Shit happens, just not today].

9. The hottest dude you've ever seen was just leaving as you arrived and before you had set any traps. [very frustrating].

8. The stud of your dreams leaves a very unremarkable deposit. [You better flush it because it may indicate an illness or GI problem and may make you sick [voice of experience here!]].

7. It's a beauty, but you didn't see who left it. [You keep it and, naturally, assume it was a hot jock; this is actually not an assumption without merit! You may find the uncertainty actually enhances the experience in a decadent sort of way! It also demonstrates your real love for shit.].

6. Daddies who bring in their little PK boys and girls to pee or poop. [They all seem to take forever and leave nothing to speak of].

5. Those idiots that repeatedly flush a disabled toilet till it overflows. [Strangely, this applies mostly to older white men, most Hispanics [who never shit anything of value anyway and take forever to do it!], and many Blacks. Why do they do it? Go figure!].

4. Your trap fails at the least opportune time and can become lodged deep in the bowels of the toilet, way out of reach. [Yes, I've even had a pane of glass break from the water jet! And of course many cups have been lost].

3. Gays watching each other jack off, taking up stalls for hours on end while people are waiting in line to take a dump.

2. After hearing maintenance or security personnel comment that the toilets are fucked up, you get scared away and leave your traps and any catch in place. [Sometimes you may get that "feeling" the "I gotta get out of here" one and just make a run for it. Probably not a bad choice, but your traps will be found and removed by maintenance. They'll catch on after about the second time you do this].

1. You get caught and run off or arrested. [Say nothing, except to suggest they are making a ridiculous allegation and you have to be somewhere in exactly ten minutes. If arrested, this will be a misdemeanor criminal mischief charge that will probably not be pressed].




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Sephiroth
posted on 08-26-2001 @ 8:43 PM      
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Registered: Dec. 00
Necrophilia for Dummies


I: Introduction

Very few text files have been written regarding the sexual tendencies and practices of necrophiliacs. While most people would prefer to believe that we do not exist we most certainly do as is obvious to anyone who visits a cemetery during our nightly rampages. Necrophiliacs prefer to go about their business alone; sharing is not a part of this alternative lifestyle as the corpse usually wears out fairly quickly. This is not to say that the occasional orgy involving four or five necrophiliacs and about a dozen or so corpses does not occur, but it is very rare. In this file I will describe common (and some uncommon) techniques which necrophiliacs use to gain satisfaction from their stiff partners. Hopefully these vivid descriptions will encourage you to go out to your local cemetery and to join our ranks!

II: Finding a partner

Finding a partner for your necrophiliac activities is definitely the hardest part. You not only have to gain access to the corpse but you also have to find one which suits your tastes. Granted, some necrophiliacs would screw roadkill if given the chance but most of us are more discriminating. Your chances depend upon where you pick up your date. If you have access to a morgue it would definitely be your best bet as the corpses there are usually the freshest and have not yet been treated for burial. They may be a bit chilly because they've been lying in the meat locker for days but that really shouldn't make a big difference to the determined necrophiliac. Cemeteries are a bit harder to deal with as finding a screwable corpse is harder to do. However, if you know how to interpret signs this shouldn't be a problem. If a grave consists of a mound of fresh dirt and is covered with flowers, chances are that the stiff hasn't been laying here for too long. Rotting flowers on the mound usually hint to the state of the corpse as well. Some people are exclusively into 'porking the bone', i.e. sex with skeletons. In this case you can dig up almost any grave and hope that the inhabitant hasn't yet disintegrated into dust. Try to scope out a fairly secluded cemetery for your passions unless you like a sense of danger to go along with the sex. Having anyone catch you in the act is NOT fun, and if you're picked up by a cop chances are that you won't be able to screw anything but Bubba behind bars for the next few decades. People are generally not understanding of the necrophiliac lifestyle, so it will probably be a long time before we can come out of the closet.

III: Preparation

Depending upon where you are at this point you'll have either a little or a lot of work to do. The person in the morgue will obviously have to do little more than to open the locker, pull the corpse out and bang away. If you're one of the cemetery people you'll have more work to do. An experienced necrophiliac is always equipped with the bare essentials: a shovel, Vaseline and a box of rubbers. Why the shovel is needed should be obvious, but if the ground is hard then you might need more equipment to dig up your date. Vaseline is used to loosen the corpse up a bit. This makes it less likely for a body part to break off while you're having fun and it also prevents your mantool from becoming too irritated while screwing the dried out pussy. The BOX of condoms is used to play it safe; no necrophiliac should be without it. You never know which STDs your partner had during his/her lifetime, and believe me, it doesn't get any better after the person dies. You can put on more than one rubber for extra protection if it is warranted, but screwing a corpse without protection is just plain stupid unless you want to be the next date for a necrophiliac. If you're in a cemetery try to drag the corpse out of the grave and behind a bush or to another secluded place. Pumping away in the grave may seem more convenient, but it's a severe disadvantage to you if you need to take off in a hurry. Sometimes the corpse is too fragile to be moved; in that case make it fast. Or just break off the head, hand or lower torso and take it with you for added convenience.

Note from the pixel fairy: This is where i must warn you! Vaseline dissolves latex, meaning it will eat through your or dead-boy's condom. Use KY Jelly or anything else that's not oil-based.

Part IV: Techniques

So now you've got a stiff lying seductively in front of you, but you have no idea how to start. How you proceed from this point onward really depends upon what kind of person you are. The corpse will last longer if you treat it gently and with care, but if you prefer to go all out you'll probably receive greater satisfaction. There are many differences between screwing a live and a dead person which one needs to be aware of. Firstly, a corpse will never tell you to get off of it if you're being a bit rough and it will never complain no matter what kinky sexual practices you use it for. Screwing a corpse is also much more predictable because you can raise an arm, leg or whatever and it will still be in that position when you reach for it again. Take the arms and gently lock them in an embrace behind your back, or spread the legs to make sex a bit easier. If you want a great blowjob then lubricate your partner's mouth, lock it to your preferred width, insert and go for it. Although there's no tongue stimulation it's still worthwhile, and it's also safer than conventional sex. Corpses can also be recycled if treated properly. If you're a proficient embalmer you can keep a corpse for over five years if it has been properly embalmed. That's free sex whenever you want it! You naturally don't want to be too rough with an embalmed corpse though as they are more fragile. One final advantage of screwing corpses is that they are always in abundance. Based upon your sexual preferences you can designate a cemetery or a morgue as your territory and always find fresh partners to screw. Plus you don't have to resort to cheesy pickup lines or spend all your money in order to get a date. necrophiliac is a passion which is cheaply satisfied.

Note from the pixel fairy: Necrophilia is not so cheaply enjoyed unless you already have such direct access.

V. Conclusion

I hope that this text file will encourage you to go out and try necrophilia. Not many people do it, but that's precisely what makes it so much fun; it makes you feel special! If no living person would touch you with a 10 foot pole then try having sex with a corpse! Some of them are real beauties and it's an experience you'll never forget. There is no greater experience for a virgin than having his/her virginity taken by a corpse. Anyways, have fun and if you have any experiences you'd like to share then by all means do! Maybe necrophilia will enter the mainstream because of your efforts.





Here is my Email Address. Here is my IM name. It's there for a reason. Please use it. Oh god, I'm so lonely...........


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posted on 08-26-2001 @ 11:30 PM      
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Registered: Sep. 00
As I was reading that I couldn't get that porno music out of my head that O&A always play.



You always wanted people to remember you.
To leave your little mark on society.
Don't you know your wish is coming true today.
Another victim dies tonight.
2 tired 2 give N F
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posted on 08-27-2001 @ 12:03 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 01
hey what' going on in here...*sees previous posts*
What the...how...huh...wait...no...eeww...
*leaves with a permenant cringe on his face*




When I have fears that I may cease to be/ Before my pen has gleaned my teaming brain,/ Before high-piled books, in charactery,/ Hold like rich garners the full ripened grain;/ When I behold, upon the night's starred face,/ Huge cloudy symbols of a high romance,/ And think that I may never live to trace/ Their shadows, with the magic hand of chance,/ And when I feel, fair creature of a hour,/ That I shall never look upon thee more,/ Never have relish in the fairy power/ Of unreflecting love--then on the shore/ Of the wide world I stand alone, and think/ Till love and fame to nothingness do sink. --Keats
GO GEORGIA TECH YELLOW JACKETS!!!!
KeeKee
posted on 08-27-2001 @ 12:40 AM      
Psychopath
Registered: Sep. 00
quote:

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...



Kim...Please don't encourage him...look he has Seph. doing it now too

LunaBabe
Ok, I know this is all a ploy, but, I'll play anyway.

Dylan? BAH! I've heard BETTER!

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'Shrooomer
posted on 08-27-2001 @ 9:17 PM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
So....Like...what? No cannabalism essays? Gee....I'm so disappointed.



~ Graduate of the Brokenjaw School for Newbies~

Why do I cringe when I click this "Reply to Topic" button?
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Where's my snare? I have no snare in my headphones.
posted on 08-27-2001 @ 9:52 PM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
Takes ice pick and jams it repeatedly into eyes

... There... much better.



Thine In Honor,
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"We each play out the part fate has written for us... Free will, is an illusion!"
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Goofbahgs, Unite!!

Mr. Brownstone
posted on 08-28-2001 @ 2:48 AM      
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Registered: Dec. 00
Your First Enema


Section 1: Introduction

It's embarrassing, isn't it? You have this interest. You may be a girl in her 20's, a man in his 60's or anyone else at all in between--the thing that makes you different from "other people" is that you have an interest in enemas. It's not just the idea that a "clean colon is the best way to a healthy body" (a good motto, by the way); it's a desire to experience the anorectal and colonic stimulation provided by a skillfully given enema. You may have lurked in this newsgroup (a. s. e.) for months, and yet you're still afraid to post or to email any of the contributors. Maybe you even went so far as to get an "anon" number. You may have even talked to your boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, or wife about enemas in a tentative way--and been rebuffed. Or maybe you don't have the ability to discuss this issue. You're just too shy.

If any of the above describes you, I have some suggestions that may help you satisfy the longings you feel.

The first thing I want to tell you is that you are not alone, whether you are male or female. Many people have a strong interest in enemas, both for cleansing and for erotic purposes. I have personally corresponded with many folks, both male and female, who share what they often call "the kink"--an interest in receiving or giving enemas. Some (me included) like both giving and receiving; others like only to receive (typically they are submissives), while some also like only to give (typically they are dominants). There are probably hundreds of thousands of people who enjoy enemas, but for whom it is a "dirty secret;" after all, it's "unnatural" (so they think). I wish to say to all of you who fear to reveal your interests, THERE ARE OTHERS LIKE YOU.

The paper that follows is an effort to help you find a way (or two) to express your desires / needs in the context of your own life, or to find a partner who has the same interests. I have been interested in enemas for almost as long as I can remember. They always have seemed to me to have an erotic component, and I remember that when I was still a teenager I fantasized about giving them to my girlfriends. I also always enjoyed receiving them. I gave them to myself from time to time when the house was empty (parents and siblings gone), and felt a combination of things from them: first, they actually felt good to me--the rectal stimulation, the filling, the pressure, even the cramps, felt good. All the preceding were components of a very erotic experience for me. Then, I felt good when I was finished. Lighter. Empty. Cleansed. Until my first *real* girlfriend, I was too shy to discuss enemas at all. I thought nobody else in the WORLD was like me--then I found that my girlfriend (we were both still in our teens) had been given enemas by her mother--and she wanted me to repeat the process for her. With her (as with so many "klismos"), the enema was a love-hate thing. She wanted enemas (and, I'm sure, fantasized about them), but she also feared them because of the pain/humiliation but wanted them because of the rectal/anal pleasure, the stimulation and domination and... If you're a klismo, you're acquainted with many of these emotions. Eventually we developed a routine--I would ask her "how she was feeling;" I could always tell if she wanted/needed an enema (or two) by her response. First, she would look down. Then she would get a bit tongue-tied; then she would tell me she "wasn't feeling good;" and, of course, that made me ask the questions leading up to the conclusion: "Well, I think I need to give you an enema." She typically concurred with my judgment, especially after we got the preceding routine set up and began to understand each other's body language and verbal responses a bit better. She wanted to receive, I wanted to give. Strangely enough, I was too shy to tell her that I also would like to receive. To this day, I don't understand my own shyness about this. Anyway, time went by and we broke up, and both of us found other partners--and I discovered the great (and disgusting) truth that there were also many women who did NOT like or wish to receive enemas. This was a real blow. Now I felt like I had before. Nobody else was like me. I actually believed that until the late 1970's, when I began to see publications appear in the adult bookstores dealing with enemas. They were usually fake (the pictorials, anyway)--but at least I now knew I was not the only one.

Finally, a few years ago, I began to seek out people who wished to give and receive enemas, either for erotic or cleansing purposes (these two things often exist together in the mind of a "klismo"), and I found that there are indeed MANY people, both men and women, who enjoy the enema. I say all this only to suggest that your erotic interest (or other interest) in enemas is probably very much like that of all the rest of us. We find them pleasurable (or wish to submit for our lover's sake, or whatever) because of the way our minds and bodies were stimulated when we were young--or perhaps there is a differing set of nerves in the anal areas of klismos. Whatever. You're here now, reading this newsgroup, and you want help. Here are some suggestions to improve your chances of finding a partner and/or enjoying this experience:

First, if you're seeking a partner, be a real person. I know this ought to go without saying, but many of the friends I've made on the 'net have commented that I'm "nicer" than a lot of the people they have met. If all you have in mind is your own pleasure, and what you want to do to someone else or receive from someone else, the people you meet will discover that soon enough--and they will lose interest in you. If, on the other hand, your own interest in enemas is tempered with an interest in the enjoyment of your partner, you will find that people whom you thought would NOT be interested will be. People love consideration. I've downloaded most of Elf's (THANKS, Elf!!) pictures in the last few weeks, and I enjoy them immensely; and one thing you definitely can see in his photos is his consideration of the girl to whom he is giving the enema. She is being treated like a real human being, not a piece of meat. That's probably why she was willing to try this with him in the first place. Enemas can take some getting used to if you've never given or received before, and many potentially wonderful experiences are ruined because the giver forgets that anal tissues are tender, and filling the colon the first time can bring a lot of apprehension and discomfort. Be considerate.

You should also have an understanding of the other person's total sexuality. Enemas are one part of a much larger picture. If your partner is a woman, what really turns her on (assuming your interest is more than cleansing)? How can you bring her pleasure? If she wants to give (and you're a guy), is she turned on by the dominance and control she feels? Are you willing to relinquish that part of yourself? What does she want to do AFTER the enema? Have sex? Be caressed? Spank you? If you're a guy, and you wish to introduce this to your girlfriend, think of *her* first. How does she react to anal stimulation? Is she opposed to any "backdoor" play? If so, an attempt to introduce her to enemas is probably bound to fail. An enema is quite embarrassing, unless you're used to it. You expose a very private part of your anatomy and passively receive what your partner wishes to give. It can also be scary. What if he won't stop when I'm full? What if I leak all over? What about the cramping? All sorts of questions crowd into the mind, and make it hard to say "Yes" to your lover when he comes and proposes an enema as part of your sex life. There are also some people who really DO NOT like anal stimulation. Those people are not good candidates for enemas. So broach the subject in the general context of anal stimulation and pleasure, if that turns her on. If the control and domination aspects of your sex life are something she wishes to explore, an enema is a tremendous way to show that you are "in control" of your lover. She has to submit--to bare her bottom and LET you do this to her, which means you have control. By the way, after you get started, and you've given her a few enemas (if control is your "bag"), it's a great idea for her to come home and find the bag lying on the bed with written instructions as to the temperature, amount and type of solution, so that she can fill the bag and get everything ready for you to give to her--and a set of orders regarding how she's to position herself for your arrival.

If you are looking for a partner: I have found a number of female friends on the 'net; most of them are scattered all over the country, so if you find somebody close to you, you're lucky. You might try looking for a "submissive" girl (if you're dominant) or a dominant (if you're submissive). Many submissives will receive enemas, and also give them, if it's approached in the context of their overall D&S and B&D lifestyle. Same thing for dominants. If you're a woman, and looking for a man, look for someone who's interested in more than your bottom end. Obviously, this particular "kink" drew you together, but you should always feel a certain level of trust and confidence in the person who gives to you. There are quite a few nice men ready to fulfill (or is that fill full?) your needs. Most of the time you will find them advertising, lurking, or posting to groups like a.s.e. Get to know the person if you can first, and make clear what your expectations are (no sex? Tell him.)


Section 2: Receiving Your First Enema

Most people I've talked to tell me that enemas take a certain amount of "getting used to" before they actually provide the turn-on that I've described. So be patient. Most folks also tell me that their first enema was not all that pleasant. Here are some pointers to help you enjoy receiving from the very first moment.

1. A comfortable, not too-threatening position. The "Ass in the air" position is probably not the best for a first enema. I suggest that you lie on your side, bottom leg slightly bent, top leg drawn to your chest. This exposes the anal area and (in women) the genitals, yet it doesn't seem quite so "out there" as with your bottom in the air and your face on the pillow. An alternative position (and one favored by a friend of mine) is over-the-lap. It's a bit more difficult to relax that way, but your partner can massage your back as the enema progresses, you can position yourself between his knees so your belly is not compressed, and it gives your partner good access to your anus without exposing you quite as thoroughly as some other positions. In addition, many klismos began their interest in enemas over Mom's (or Dad's) lap, so some of the "mystique" is re-created.

2. A well-lubricated anus. I believe that an oil-based lubricant ought to be used for enemas, unless the nozzle or tube that you use is rubber (oils destroy rubber); K-Y and other water-based lubes tend to make the anus sore after you expel. I also suggest "prelubricating" the anus and rectum with generous amounts of lubricant (vaseline, cold cream). Have your lover or partner use his finger and massage the anal area a bit with the lubricant and work some of it up inside. Then when he inserts the nozzle in you, your anus will relax and admit it much easier.

3. As your partner begins to insert the nozzle, try to relax. A couple deep breaths as the nozzle moves past the anal sphincter and into the rectum often helps. If you're using a bardex, or other larger nozzle, your partner should perform the insertion in several stages--first the "easy part," then let you rest for a few seconds, then slooowwlly inserting the "bag" part of the bardex, then let you rest again before inflating the bag inside of you.

4. When the water is turned on, mentally open yourself to receive it. Imagine your colon and rectum relaxed and accepting, ready to be filled. I don't know why, but the main problem with enemas seems to be panic. It may be the size of the bag, or the idea that "this is going to hurt real good," or some such thing; but if you will just relax and receive the water as it flows into you, the enema will not cause nearly as much cramping, and will probably feel OK from the very first moment. As the cramps come (and they will, especially if you've never had an enema), massage your abdomen and do the deep breathing I recommended for the insertion process. Don't panic. The adult colon can receive up to 4 quarts of water, and I've given full 2-quart enemas to women who were just barely 5 ft. tall and quite slim. I know that these women could have taken more than I gave them without major discomfort. So don't panic. If you feel you have to go immediately, ask your partner to stop the flow for a few moments so that your colon can relax.

5. As the enema is finished, maintain a relaxed position and attempt to hold it for a few minutes, if you can. Try to relax yourself by letting your belly bulge out and continue to take some deep breaths from time to time.


Section 3: Notes For The Giver

The giver has a great deal of responsibility. He has to see that his partner enjoys (or at least tolerates) a process that is often embarrassing and unpleasant. Your job can be much easier if you'll do the following things:

1. As you lubricate your partner's anus: lift her upper "cheek" until the anus is stretched open just a bit. You should be able to see the "entry point" for your finger. Next, put the tip of your lubricated finger against the center of your partner's "rosebud;" gently press in. Your finger should begin to slide in (especially if you are at the right spot). Continue to press, and let your finger enter your partner's anus slowly. Be gentle.

2. As you insert the nozzle: follow the same instructions I've given for your finger. A properly placed nozzle does not need to be forced in. A gentle pressure against the anal opening is all that's needed, and the nozzle should slide right in.

3. Be sure that the bag is not hung too high (3 ft. max above your girlfriend's anus), and that the water is very warm (you should be able to just barely hold your hand in it).

4. Open the clamp slowly. Don't try to give her the entire enema without stopping, and be sensitive to her needs. I always suggest that the enema be given with her lying on her side and you seated behind her so that you can manipulate the nozzle and the clamp that adjusts the flow. Sometimes massaging her belly helps as the water flows in. If she is really full of fecal matter (shit...), just give half the bag, refill after she expels, and give her the entire bag the second time. Always remember that this is supposed to be enjoyable for both of you, even if the "scene" you're playing is punishment, and talk her through the hard parts. Use the clamp or a hemostat to regulate the flow so that the enema doesn't flow in too fast. A well-given enema can take as much as 15 minutes to inject.

5. When the enema is all in, help her up (leave the nozzle in), and follow her into the bathroom. Then remove the nozzle with her seated on the toilet so she can expel.





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