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bluetarp
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 10:57 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
In honor of this topic, my sig pic change!

opak
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 11:01 PM      
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Registered: May. 00
Wow tarp...you really are an ass arent ya?

Squrl
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 11:05 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Mar. 01
The way I look at it there will always be scumbags no matter how many gun laws there are. As I recall, the Oaklahoma bombing used no guns but was one of the most tragic events in U.S. history.


bluetarp
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 11:30 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Opak, thanks for noticing. But I don't really understand why my stand is that of an asshole. In an honest debate, what did I do to be an asshole?

Whackbag
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 11:41 PM      
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Registered: Sep. 00
This is a shameless attempt to up my posts, I figured not to many people are gonna notice it on page 4 of a topic.

Unicron
posted on 03-05-2001 @ 11:47 PM      
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Registered: Mar. 01
the democrats want to punish the law-obiding citizens with guns, and ignore the illegal gunrunners that are the real problem

bluetarp
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 12:03 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Yer preachin to the choir Unicron. Hail the bill of rights!

GrkqtOandAfan
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posted on 03-06-2001 @ 12:14 AM      
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Just figured I would test my sig in here

What are we gonna do about this?
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FollowThisLogic
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posted on 03-06-2001 @ 12:15 AM      
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Whackbag - I noticed. FUCK YOU.

QT - you're getting annoyed at tarp when there's no need to. He hasn't presented a single relevant argument yet.

Like quoting Jefferson:

quote:

"No free man shall ever be debarred of the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."


It fucking explains itself right there. THE STRONGEST REASON IS TO PROTECT AGAINST TYRANNY IN GOVERNMENT. Are you starting a militia? What tyranny exists in America? This quote was made at a time when British soldiers had free reign to bust down people's doors, take what they wanted, and leave. It has no bearing on today's world. You're not protecting against a government.

Second Amendment states:

quote:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


In other words, since we need our militia, the people need guns. HATE TO BREAK IT TO YOU, ASSHOLE, BUT OTHER THAN RADICAL RIGHT-WINGERS, MILITIAS BROKE UP TWO CENTURIES AGO. We have Armed Forces for that now. Therefore, the fucking people don't need guns. That means FUCK YOU AND YOUR "hail the Bill Of Rights."

You had to play hardball, didn't you? But you didn't think to analyze your own quotes.... fucking TOOL.

And by the way, bombs go off in the UK because of a little group, you might have heard of them, called the IRISH REPUBLICAN ARMY. You know, those guys who don't want to be a part of the UK anymore, and want to be part of Ireland. You cocksmoking fucking dickwad.

Bombs aside, guns have a much greater chance of causing DEATH than any other personally-possessed weapon.Shot to the head, instant death. A knife can be blocked. It can do less damage. Not necessarily death. Honestly, ANYTHING can be a murder weapon if it's used hard enough and enough times. Like my fucking fists on your skull if you don't realize you've lost this debate.

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This message was edited by FollowThisLogic on 3-6-01 @ 12:17 AM
bluetarp
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 12:25 AM      
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FollowThisLogic

Well, you see, Militias, were not the military. They serve several purposes. Militias, were by definition, civillian organizations. I notice you omitted the part about Hitler taking away guns from civillians. The government can become tyranous, when the public isn't armed. Oh, Cool sig pic GrkQT. Take that stand. I applaud your effort.

DX-Bitch
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 12:32 AM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jan. 01
Y'all can analyze eachothers posts all you want but it comes right back to the parents having no control and or not wanting to control their kids...placing the blame on the school systems when they are only there for the sole purpose of teach ABC's & 123's...they are not there to each other peoples kids bout "gun safety" and or morals and values...kids get picked on left and right all over gods creation whether it be in California....or fucking Estonia...point is, is that some kids even though their parents might have tried to teach them right from wrong it doesn't always sink in and probably never will in most of them...kids now a days don't understand that actions speak volumes over any words they could ever say...their actions right now are saying that they are sick fucks.

I was picked on to no end all through school to the point where I wanted to hurt them for hurting me but its that lil thing inside that lil voice always stopped me...

kids now don't seem to have that lil voice anymore...either that or they have learned to stop listening to it...

why guns? what ever happen to a good ole' fist fight...but even now a days a fist fight could turn deadly...


"when I die bury me up-side-down so the world can kiss my ass!"
Faceman
...And now the battle between us and them has begun.

JYD-4-LIFE.

posted on 03-06-2001 @ 12:33 AM      
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Registered: May. 00
sorry to interrupt this, oh so hotly contested debate but i have a few things to say. first of all, i dont remember telling anyone to not have an opinion. have all the opinions you want. :)

2nd, whether or not you decide to ban guns or not, they are going to be out there. there's no 2 ways about it. the black market will be huge and 1 draw back to that, anyone with enough money will be able to purchase one. you think someone on the side of the road or in a back alley would have any qualms about selling an 8 year old a gun if he had enough money? bzzzzzz wrong, way fucking wrong. now thats not saying having them legal is any better, kids can use their parents gun to do enoug damage too, so basically you are damned if you do, damned if you dont. there has to be a happy medium somewhere, dont know where but there has got to be.

3rd, whackbag, thats fucking just for being a fucking asshole. dont let it be a third.

thank you and you can all go back to debating now. all i really came for is the 3rd one. :)



You can't feel the flow because you died
Face down on a "suicide"
The muthafucker's on self-destruct
Nobody guardin' your back, it's all a front
SAVE THIS! MY RAGE IS BLISS!
I'M TAKIN' NAMES AND GETTIN' PISSED!


This message was edited by Faceman on 3-6-01 @ 12:56 AM
adolescentmasturbator
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 12:39 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Honestly I could see why people would be on either side. Even im obviously not on the right wing I say we need guns just in case we get a dictatorship here. But you republicans are coming from the wrong place. You call for no gun control and talk about Hitler quotes and similarize him with liberals even though your ideals are closer to Hitler than democrats. Im not calling you fascists but dont familiarize people with Nazis just because they believe in gun control.



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GrkqtOandAfan
Claim staked by FTL.
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 12:42 AM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
FTL that was excellent, well put. I commend you

Blue glad you like the new sig! :-)

What are we gonna do about this?
"OA.com Where the men become boys and the women are play toys"
Student of Faceman's Teen Foreign Exchange Program
FollowThisLogic
Nay. We are but men. ROCK.
The man with the plan.
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 12:45 AM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
quote:

The government can become tyranous, when the public isn't armed.


Okay, I'd love to see you convince yourself that the government is a tyranny, and start shooting up the White House. Wanna know how far you'll get? Not very. You'll be a dead man before you can squeeze the trigger. Wanna get 20 of your buddies together and form your little militia before you do it?

If the government's being tyrannous, don't you think they'll protect themselves? Hate to break it to you, but your fucking little handgun or shotgun is nothing when they whip out the M16's and cut you down like wheat.

My point is that it's an outdated way of thinking. If you want to live in the 1700's, fine. Best advice I can give is that you take your gun that you hold so much pride in, put it it your mouth (make sure it's pointing up, towards the brain) and pull the trigger. Then you'll be right where all the people who believed your principles are now.

I need to test a new pic too.... hope ya like it, tarp! Maybe you can use it!



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FollowThisLogic
Nay. We are but men. ROCK.
The man with the plan.
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 12:50 AM      
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Face - I'm not fighting for a damn thing. I've never even given thought to the gun control stuff - I'm simply doing what I do best... pointing out that this guy has no logic to follow. His arguments are 200+ years old and have no bearing on today's world. It's not a belief. Solid fact, my friend. Militias don't exist, and won't exist any time in the future. Therefore the 2nd Amendment is moot.

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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 12:51 AM      
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FTL have you ever heard of guerrilla war its what got a lot of countires liberated from oppresive rule. Sure you aint gonna do it by yourself but you gotta start somewhere.



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FollowThisLogic
Nay. We are but men. ROCK.
The man with the plan.
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 12:56 AM      
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quote:

FTL have you ever heard of guerrilla war its what got a lot of countires liberated from oppresive rule. Sure you aint gonna do it by yourself but you gotta start somewhere.


Thanks, I needed a good laugh to break up this thread.

Because you can't possibly be serious.

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bluetarp
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 12:57 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Followthistrailofshit!
You see, you are taking it personal, just like most liberal democrats. You are not capable of coherent debate. If everybody dosen't accept your every thought, you attack off topic to the discussion. At least grkqt had some class about disagreeing with me. Follow, you are a yeast infected blood queef. I will no longer debate with you, because you do not have the intelligence to do so. You are closed minded about it all. I never said we are currently under tyranny. GET IT THROUGH YOUR FUCKING THICK SKULL! The only reason I say it like this is cause it's the only way it may penetrate all the drugs you are on. Oh, and just for the record, I was in the Navy for 9 years too. I love this country, and was and am willing to die defending it. The oath we took in the Navy was to DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC! I take that very seriously. So if you ever come off the crack, I'll talk to you. G'night all.

DX-Bitch
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 12:58 AM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jan. 01
since when does our country need to be liberated?!?

would someone like to fill me in on this one cause im am so lost


"when I die bury me up-side-down so the world can kiss my ass!"
Faceman
...And now the battle between us and them has begun.

JYD-4-LIFE.

posted on 03-06-2001 @ 1:02 AM      
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Registered: May. 00
dx, im as stupified as you are to that one. someone better inform me pretty quick what opression im under before i log off my $1499 computer, turn my $150 stereo off and climb into my deluxe bed and call it a night. :)



You can't feel the flow because you died
Face down on a "suicide"
The muthafucker's on self-destruct
Nobody guardin' your back, it's all a front
SAVE THIS! MY RAGE IS BLISS!
I'M TAKIN' NAMES AND GETTIN' PISSED!
adolescentmasturbator
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 1:13 AM      
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Hey faceman you may be doing good as am I. I am typing on a custom built $3000 comp. As Lewis Black once put it we have more money than God here and we can't share it. Im not calling for a communism here but something where few people are poor. DX I'm not saying that we need military action now to liberate the USA but you never know. But one thing I don't understand is republicans are adamant about protected the constitution but they dont protect all the amedments. They protect the second amendment like there's no tomorrow but you don't see them doing anything about the first. It will spread accross the country like a disease if action isn't taken. I say the perfect country would be the USSA. Think about liberties of America(well I guess well work on that one) and the economic equality of a socialist country.



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FollowThisLogic
Nay. We are but men. ROCK.
The man with the plan.
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 1:14 AM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
quote:

Followthistrailofshit!
You see, you are taking it personal, just like most liberal democrats. You are not capable of coherent debate. If everybody dosen't accept your every thought, you attack off topic to the discussion. At least grkqt had some class about disagreeing with me. Follow, you are a yeast infected blood queef. I will no longer debate with you, because you do not have the intelligence to do so. You are closed minded about it all. I never said we are currently under tyranny. GET IT THROUGH YOUR FUCKING THICK SKULL! The only reason I say it like this is cause it's the only way it may penetrate all the drugs you are on. Oh, and just for the record, I was in the Navy for 9 years too. I love this country, and was and am willing to die defending it. The oath we took in the Navy was to DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC! I take that very seriously. So if you ever come off the crack, I'll talk to you. G'night all.


At least I can go to bed happy.
This last post of yours had no argument in it. Just the old third grade "well.... YOU'RE STUPID!" Oh, and you claimed I'm on drugs. Classy move. That means I got under your skin. I'll pat myself on the back later for it. In the meantime...
I'm not taking anything personal. I'm saying that you're quoting 200-year-old ideas as if they apply to today. There's a system in our government, perhaps you've heard of it, though I doubt it, it's called Checks and Balances. And no, it has nothing to do with money. It protects against the exact tyranny which you feel so threatened by. The President can't do anything alone. That's what Congress is for. Congress can't do anything alone. That's why the President has to sign or veto bills. There's also a judicial branch which checks to see that all that's going on is constitutional.
And by the way, I vote Republican all the way. I'm just telling you that you personally have no place in this debate unless you came from 1781 and are somehow confused at where you are and what the bright box with words is in front of you.
And would I die for this country? Hate to break it to you, but we're not the only free country in the world. If there were ever a draft, you'd find me in Canada. At least they have free healthcare for every citizen.

Been fun, all. I'm off to bed. Isn't it fun to win? That's why I'm....

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This message was edited by FollowThisLogic on 3-6-01 @ 1:17 AM
DX-Bitch
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 1:18 AM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Face it doesn't take a lot to confuse the hell outta me and i know im not the sharpest crayon in the box but opression what is adolescentmasturbator smoking...whatever it is must be pretty good cause um....damn


"when I die bury me up-side-down so the world can kiss my ass!"
adolescentmasturbator
posted on 03-06-2001 @ 1:21 AM      
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Thats what im talking about when I talk about a socialism. Guaraneteed there will be food on the table, and you can have guaranteed healthcare. Sure the taxes might be higher but its worth it.



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