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Grumpy
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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 9:46 AM      
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Tuesday morning my wife calls me to tell me my son (4 years old) is crying hysterically because "Daddy works in Manhattan by the big buildings and thats where the bad things happened". I spoke to him to reassure him that I was okay and not near where the "bad thing" happened. On the 4 hour drive home, I tried to figure out how to explain what happened to him. The best I came up with is explain that "bad people" did a very "bad" thing and people got hurt. He let it go at that and gave me a hug telling me he loves me and glad I was okay. I'm sure he still has questions which I'll gladly try to answer without scarying him.

I know a few board members have kids. I'm curious what age they are and how you talk to them about this.



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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 9:59 AM      
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Grumpy had this conversation with a friend of my last night who tried to explain this to his 11 & 9 year old girl and found the same difficulty. He explained it as there are some bad people in this world and they did this.

Also we both agreed you make sure you tell them you love then and they are safe.


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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 10:10 AM      
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Grump - I kept my daughter away from the TV all day on Tuesday. When she asked why, all we could tell her is that "bad things happened today, but we are all together and we are ok." I finally let her see some of the footage yesterday and began explaining some of it to her, much like you explained to your son.

What do you say to a 4-year old when they ask you with a tear in your eye that you don't go to work because the bad stuff might not be over yet? I'm not convinced its over myself, how the F can I convince her???

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kevin from ct
posted on 09-13-2001 @ 10:15 AM      
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Grump,

Great post. I have an 8 year old and a 5 year old.

Probably the one best piece of advice I can give you is to
CAREFULLY MONITOR what they are allowed to see and
hear and read.

Christopher (8) was left in the family room on Tues night and
saw someone falling out of a window. My wife and I are
having a really hard time helping him understand what he
saw. It's really tragic. Children's minds just can't filter stuff
the way we can.

Please watch what your kids come into contact with, people.



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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 11:23 AM      
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I agree with you guys. I have an 8 year old son who wanted to know "WHY" these people would do this.

The only way I could explain it to him was that they were bad people who did a terrible thing.

kindredbabe
posted on 09-13-2001 @ 11:30 AM      
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Some things to keep in mind when speaking to any child:


  1. It's important to communicate to children that they're safe. Given what they may have seen on television, they need to know that the violence is isolated to certain areas and they will not be harmed. Parents should try to assure children that they've done everything they can to keep their children safe.
  2. Overexposure to the media can be traumatizing. It's unwise to let children or adolescents view footage of traumatic events over and over. Limit their time allowed to watch the news coverage. Children and adolescents should not watch these events alone, but with a trusted family member.
  3. Adolescents in particular can be hard hit by these kinds of events and parents might want to watch for signs such as: sleep disturbances, fatigue, lack of pleasure in activities enjoyed previously, and initiation of illicit substance abuse.
  4. Adults need to help children understand the significance of these events. Discussion is critical. It should be stressed that the terrorist acts are ones of desperation and horror - and that they're not about politics or religion. Children should know that lashing out at members of a particular religious or ethnic group will only cause more harm.
  5. At ages 2 to 5 years, children view death as reversible and temporary. They believe in magical thinking, that wishes come true. If they are mad at a friend who later dies, they may believe they caused the death. Guilt is pervasive at this age and must be addressed. By ages 5 to 10 years, children are becoming much more aware of the irreversibility and inevitability of death. They tend to interpret death as a person coming to take them away, such as the Grim Reaper or an angel. After age 10 years, children develop abstract reasoning and really begin to understand death as an adult does. They know that all people die and that they will die someday, too, but they think of it as something in the distant future.


Listen to your children. Watch them and how they react to you and their friends. If you notice any kind of post-traumatic stress, talk to them and reassure them. If needed, child psychiatrists are an excellent resource.



MaynardGKrebs
posted on 09-13-2001 @ 12:01 PM      
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I don't know, but this may help. Just found it on the CNN site.

Teaching Your Kids About Terrorism

Sephiroth
posted on 09-13-2001 @ 3:30 PM      
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Here Grumpy, this link should help a bit.

http://www.womencentral.msn.com/parenting/articles/tragedy.asp



This message was edited by Sephiroth on 9-13-01 @ 3:31 PM
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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 3:36 PM      
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I'm having a hard time trying to explain this to myself, and couldn't fathom trying to explain this to a child. Amen to you guys that have this responsibility and good luck.


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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 5:58 PM      
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Kindredbabe,

perfect.

My eldest was fine. I was actually concerned because my 8yr old didn't have the slightest idea of the importance. He wanted to know why baseball wasn't on TV. I was torn between wanting him to understand, and not wanting him to be too scared.

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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 6:01 PM      
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I am 16 and i fully understand the ramifications of this situation but i find that my sister who is 12 is haveing trouble grasping the reality of this situation and she is a nervous reck over this......No matter how i try to explain it she still has probs understanding....she came to me scared last night over bomb threats...just because of what a nervous wreck this people have made my sister we should go in and wipe these scum off the face of this earth


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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 6:15 PM      
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quote:

I'm having a hard time trying to explain this to myself, and couldn't fathom trying to explain this to a child.


Exactly, Irish. How do you explain something like this to a child when it's so incomprehensable to ourselves?
quote:

my sister who is 12 is haveing trouble grasping the reality of this situation and she is a nervous reck over this



Unfortunatley Bartman there are people a lot older that still don't understand.
For all of you that have small children you need to explain this to just remember that they understand things a lot better than we give them credit for. Just tell them the truth and keep reassuring them that they are safe and they are loved.
Good luck to everyone who has to deal with explaining these events to a child when many of us can't even explain it to ourselves.


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Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.



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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 8:52 PM      
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I do not have children of my own, but I am a teacher. One of the children ran up to me while we were outside yesterday morning, very upset because he saw a plane. He asked me, "What are we going to do if that plane tries to crash into us?" How do you answer that!?! I told him that the planes up there are our military planes and they are protecting us so he shouldn't be afraid of planes because they're up ther keeping us safe. He seemed satisfied with that and then I went in to the building and just cried. How am I supposed to convince children that they are safe when I'm not sure I feel safe myself?


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posted on 09-13-2001 @ 9:15 PM      
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Grumpy...you know I teach high school kids. I tried to be as informative as possible with them and try to treat them like intelligent, thoughtful adults on the subject. I still had to censor myself at times because of my own feelings on issues...but communication is key. It always has been and always will be. But with the little kids.....sometimes a good old fashioned govt. cover up is a good plan. Let 'em know just enough to get 'em interested, slightly frightened, but mostly curious and then turn 'em loose on the world to make it a better place as they satisfy their curiosities.

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posted on 09-14-2001 @ 12:00 PM      
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At first this post may not seem relevant but ber with it. Please do not just explain this to the kids that express their fear. When i was a child I saw a Movie mind you that had me terrified for years, Red Dawn. It was only a movie but every time i heard a plane over head it terrified me that men would parachute down. I was only 9 and an older cousin showed me the movie. I had really not grasped the whole reality / fiction concept so it was very real to me. I did not talk to anyone about those fears because i felt like my parents did not like answering questions like that. Be sure to ask children if they have any concerns even if they do not bring it up because most kids feel they cannot go to a parent for what ever reason and it is better you bring it up than their freinds who terrify those kids even more.

Let me make this clear, I am not saying it is the same but it was the only way to decribe the feelings of a child the best i can through my own experience. I have a niece that is 2 and thank god she is not old enough to see this but almost cry because she will never have gotten to see these wonderful structures in all their glory.


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posted on 09-14-2001 @ 2:53 PM      
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quote:

Please do not just explain this to the kids that express their fear

You're so right about that. When I was little I remember overhearing a discussion about war. I was really young and of course I didn't understand any of it but it scared me to death. For the longest time after that I would worry constantly that my bothers and dad were going to leave me and never come back. I also thought that at any given time bombs would just drop out of the sky and onto my house. I was so scared and sad about this but I didn't tell my parents because I thought that it would make them sad to talk about it. Whatever you do, just make sure your kids know that they're safe. Tell them that you aren't going anywhere and that you'll be with them throughout all of this. Try to help them understand what's going on because children will hear things from their classmates that will most likely scare and confuse them. Trust me, I'm still a kid so I know what I'm talking about. Sometimes we all just need someone to tell us it's going to be okay.


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posted on 09-14-2001 @ 5:09 PM      
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Grumpy I know what turmoil you are going through on how to explain this to your child. I just told my children,9 and 5,that very bad people did a very bad thing. But we cannot hide this from them because this is not going away and unfortunately it's gonna get alot worse. And kindred very solid advice dear........



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posted on 09-14-2001 @ 8:36 PM      
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I told my daughter the truth on what happened and told my 4 year old son that the people who did this are bad people and that whn we find them The Rock and Stone Cold were going to beat them up(he is a wrestling fan). I felt that way he would understand


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posted on 09-14-2001 @ 10:52 PM      
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I can't even fathom this still, let alone explain to my bud's kid or my neice.

You're all doing a good job for the situation at hand.


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posted on 09-15-2001 @ 7:16 AM      
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My son is 16 and my daughter is 14.I told them that shit like this was bound to happen at some point in their lifetime,And not to dwell on it,because things will allways be taken from away from you.But,as long as you have a memory of what it once was you will allways have it.Unless ofcourse you get alzheimers,then you might as well kill yourself anyways lol
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posted on 09-15-2001 @ 7:53 PM      
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I heard somewhere that Nickelodeon is having a special edition of Nick News where kids that are related to what happened in some way talk about it. Here's where to go for info:

http://www.nick.com/your_world/nick_talk/nick_news_special.jhtml



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