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| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 8:55 AM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00  | WASHINGTON (AP) . President Bush will not seek a declaration of war Thursday in a high-stakes address to Congress, instead imploring Americans to have patience for a long, painful hunt for terrorists. The words are meant to build resolve as soldiers, ships and aircraft head across the sea for conflict. Bush is also expected to warn that some of those heading out may not return. In the speech, set for 9 p.m. EDT, Bush will make the case against No. 1 suspect Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaida network, officials said Wednesday. ``I look forward to the opportunity to explain to the American people who would do this to our great country,'' Bush said. ``And why.'' In Afghanistan, hundreds of Islamic clerics called on bin Laden to leave the country voluntarily but gave no indication they would support handing him over to the United States. The clerics had been convened by the military rulers of Afghanistan to weigh U.S. demands that bin Laden be turned over. They said they were prepared to call for a holy war against the United States if U.S. troops attack Afghanistan in an attempt to capture bin Laden, a Saudi exile. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld declined to rule out Iraq as a target of the anti-terrorism campaign. ``There are a number of nations that are on the official, public list of terrorist nations . nations that have either sponsored terrorism or been involved in it . and we know that a number of those countries are in the Middle East,'' he said Thursday on NBC's ``Today.'' But it is up to Bush to decide what targets will be attacked, Rumsfeld said. Bush planned to meet Prince Saud al-Faisal, the foreign minister of Saudi Arabia, on Thursday. Al-Faisal has expressed support for the war on terrorism. The president also was mindful of the impact on the economy of last week's attacks, promising that the government would respond, pledging to help the hard-hit airline industry in particular. But Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan was expected to tell Congress on Thursday to take a go-slow approach before enacting any massive stimulus package. The Pentagon has given the coming struggle a name . ``Operation Infinite Justice.'' The military action began in earnest Wednesday as the Air Force dispatched dozens of warplanes to the Persian Gulf area. The aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt also was sent toward the Mediterranean to join two aircraft carriers already in the region near Afghanistan. Bin Laden is believed to be hiding there. The pursuit of bin Laden and his elusive, loose-knit group of terrorists continued on several fronts. The FBI enlisted banks to follow the money trail in last week's terrorist attacks, where two planes were crashed into the World Trade Center, another into the Pentagon and a fourth into the southwestern Pennsylvania countryside. More than 5,400 people were believed killed. Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller planned to visit the Pennsylvania crash site of United Flight 93 on Thursday. Just before the crash, several of the passengers on the flight made cell phone calls saying they planned to attack their captors. With the number of people detained on immigration charges for questioning rising to 115, the FBI sent a list of the alleged hijackers to banks asking them to search for any transactions involving 21 people wanted in connection with the attacks. Agents also were investigating the possibility that some of the suspected suicide hijackers used fake identities of people who may still be alive. Ashcroft said Wednesday that evidence shows that the terrorists suspected ``are harbored, supported, sustained and protected by a variety of foreign governments.'' The economic fallout from the terrorist attacks sent stocks plummeting again Wednesday. Only a late burst of buying saved the Dow from its worst three-day point loss ever. The Dow Jones average was down as much as 423 points at midafternoon but rallied to finish with a loss of 144 points following news reports that the military was beginning a buildup in the Persian Gulf area. The attacks and a two-day, federally ordered shutdown of the air travel system also have set in motion a crisis for airline companies . American and United airlines announced 40,000 layoffs Wednesday. The parent company of American, the world's largest airline, said it will lay off at least 20,000 of its 138,350 workers. The cuts by AMR Corp. will affect American, TWA and American Eagle. United matched the bad news, saying it would lay off 20,000 of its 100,000 workers. Just a day earlier, Boeing said it planned to cut as many as 30,000 jobs by the end of next year. ``This is not a ripple effect,'' said Rep. Jennifer Dunn, whose suburban Seattle district includes thousands of Boeing workers. ``This is a tsunami.'' Bush plans to ask Congress to prop up the airline industry, which already was suffering from this year's economic downturn. He will ask for $5 billion in immediate cash aid plus significant help with their insurance liability. The president will also spend $3 billion of the emergency funds that Congress gave him over the weekend to pay for airline and airport security improvements. But Bush is putting off for now airline industry calls for loans to avert bankruptcies, an administration official said Wednesday. The official said such action might be taken later. Just before Bush addresses Congress Thursday night, he planned to have dinner with British Prime Minister Tony Blair. Hundreds of Britons were believed to have died in the attacks on the World Trade Center in New York City.  | ||||
| MaynardGKrebs | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 8:59 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jan. 01 | I saw this in the paper this morning. Hopefully he will actually say something of value, other then just repeating what we already know like he did in his other speaches. | ||||
| FoundryMusicScott | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 9:23 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 00 | If Bush wants a war, from what demands he is making from the Taliban right now, he's got one. No question. "That's what we're paid for, boys. We're gonna take care of this. We're going to find out who did this. They're not going to like me as President." -President George W. Bush, 9/11/01 | ||||
| Sluggo667 SLASH's New Buddy, but shhh... I am not allowed to tell anyone. | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 9:31 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Apr. 01 | Hold on kids... Gonna be a bumpy ride...  Sluggo667 | ||||
| Nana's Precious | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 9:33 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | Dubya's got my ass jacked!!! I never thought I would say it but this man can give a motivating speech....it's gonna be a rough ride for sure but this has to be done....no if's ands or buts...."you're either with us or you're with terrorism"....if your not with us, I'd hate to be you right about now..... "what, I thought we were all just having fun..." | ||||
King Shit *board owner* | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 9:37 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01 | It's a better speech than his last few, but I'm very tired of the symbolic bullshit and the trite metaphors. I'm tired of the politically eloquent speech writing and the feigned emotions. I want a leader who will say things as he feels them without trying to look at how history will remember his words. Is my train in vain, has my soul gone to waste Am I just a victim of, a victim of my lost faith | ||||
| Nana's Precious | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 9:40 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | Froy while I agree with you about the posturing put forth during these speeches, just look in this guys eyes. You can see his humanity bro, through all the rhetoric...... "what, I thought we were all just having fun..." | ||||
| Mr. Brownstone | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 9:44 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | quote:Nope, try again next time.  Two openings available at Mr. Brownstone Academy of Dance . | ||||
| FoundryMusicScott | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 9:47 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 00 | As much as all of you want a leader to say what he feels, or what he really wants, you will never have such a person. If you don't think this speech was as firessome as any, move somewhere else. The purpose of a leader such as this is to remain stolid, calm, calculated and direct. For all intents and purposes, that is what Bush did this evening. A president is not supposed to be loose lipped, for that might create an unintended feeling among the people. He did a fine job, and I comend him for it. By saying that those nations that don't turn over the terrorists "will face the same fate as them" is one of the most direct and militaristic sentences I've heard throughout history- out of Washington, Monroe, Polk, Lincoln, McKinley, Wilson, Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Nixon, and Bush senior. "That's what we're paid for, boys. We're gonna take care of this. We're going to find out who did this. They're not going to like me as President." -President George W. Bush, 9/11/01 | ||||
| mikeWOW | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 9:50 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | wow- he did a pretty good job!! i m ready 4 war! "i hate people that dont get it!" | ||||
| NY_Cracker
| posted on 09-20-2001 @ 9:51 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jul. 01 | quote:What? thump...thump...thump... Hello? Is this thing on? He's getting raves already... from people who have ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED A WAR! "What we got here is... failure to communicate... " | ||||
| CriticsLoveSnatch i know better than to ask for a status from you mean ol' mods I shall call him mini-FTL | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 9:52 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Bush said what he needed to say, i especially liked the "with us or against us" line. however his delivery still SUCKED - the word is terror you asshole! it isn't "tera" - if you're gonna use a word 20 times in your speech at least pronounce it right.  and thinking's just too much to ask and you're measuring your minutes by a clock thats blinking eights | ||||
| Nana's Precious | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 9:55 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | while most of what politicians say is diatribe, as was the case tonight, they have to be extremely careful right now about how they phrase their points. we do need the coalition to get the job done and that includes some arabs and muslims. but as for the speech as a whole, and I'm not a fan of W by any stretch, you gotta give the President an A. and just like I said to Matt, just look in the guys eyes..................... | ||||
| NY_Cracker
| posted on 09-20-2001 @ 10:04 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jul. 01 | quote:Yes, you've got a point. By the way, those are both run-on sentences, and the "h" in "however" should be capitalized. Other than that... "What we got here is... failure to communicate... " | ||||
| The Zoloft | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 10:04 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Dec. 00 | Not to take away from the serious issue at hand, but I'd like to share what I just received. ================ If I were President George W. Bush's Speech Writer. Good evening my fellow Americans. First, I want to pass on my condolences to the people of New York and all Americans that are hurting in this tragic time. You can rest assured that anything and everything that can be done to assure the safety of our country will be done. This is the greatest country in the world and we will get through this trying time. Now is the time for all people to set aside our petty differences and show the world that no one or nothing can destroy the fortitude of the American people. To the people responsible for today's tragedy, I say this: Are you fucking kidding me? Are the turbans on your heads wrapped too tight? Have you gone too long without a bath? Do you not know who you are fucking with? Americans are so hungry to kill, that we shoot at each other every day. We will relish that opportunity for new targets for our aggression. Have you forgotten history? What happened to the last people that started fucking around with us? Remember the little yellow bastards over in Japan? We slapped them all over the Pacific and roasted about 2 million of them in their own back yard. That's what we in America call a big ass barbecue. Ever seen Texas on a map? Ever wonder why it's so big? Because we wanted it that way, Mexico started jacking around with the Alamo and now they cut our lawns. England? We sent them packing. Ask your buddy Saddam about fucking with the good 'ole USA. The only reason he got away the first time is because it's too hard to shoot someone when you're doubled over laughing at them. Our soldiers aren't trained to laugh and shoot at the same time. Now he couldn't stop a pack of cub scouts from taking over his shitty little country. Trust us, Afghanistan will end up a giant kitty litter box. Go ahead and try to hide, Bin Laden. There's not a hole deep enough or a mountain high enough that's going to keep your camel riding asses safe. We will bomb every inch of the country that harbors him, his camps and any place that looks and even smells like he was there. Hell, we might even drop a few bombs on people that have pissed us off in the past. This is America. We kick ass. This is what we do. Go ahead and laugh now, but the Tomahawks are coming and we will smoke your sorry asses! God bless America!  "Don't ever underestimate the psycho factor in my head" -- Opie | ||||
| VooDude | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 10:05 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | I think his speech started out a little dry. I thought it was going to be another one of his script readings, but then he go it going. Overall, I think he did a good job....he got me to say "hell yes" outloud a few times. But did you see Hillary? She was just giving little golf claps, rolling her eyes, looking around like she was bored......and that cunt is the NY Senator !!!! I think she's mad that GWB didn't even mention her name. Oh, and congrats to PA Gov. Tom Ridge.
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| Tequila Fez claims this land in the name of Portugal! Why worry about the train if it never makes it around the tracks?? IrishAlkey wuz here!!! | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 10:12 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jan. 01 | That was one of the best speeches I have heard from any politcian in a long time Zoloft - I got the same letter in my e-mail today.  A NEW DAY OF INFAMY MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH THE FAMILY & FRIENDS OF LOST ONES | ||||
| DR. Buster Hymen | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 10:18 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Oct. 00 | The speech did it's job. Speeches ARE made for history & for show; it's action that counts! This is why the President & the Congress came to the site; it's THAT powerful in person!! In fact, I was told that Bush & some of the Senators/Congressmen had tears in their eyes when they came. It becomes OUR job to not let them forget this over the next months/years!! And the first order of business (besides Bin Laden) should be to get that Calif. Bitch Barbara ??Lee?? OUT OF OFFICE(faster than Condit)!!! TO THE GUYS IN "THE HOLE": I'M WITH YOU DR. Buster Hymen Buster_Hymen@opieanthony.com | ||||
| Nana's Precious | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 10:20 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | quote: hey Critic it's patriotism not criticism right now....re-fucking-lax and try some support right now instead of critizing a guys accent...ponderous, fucking ponderous.... | ||||
| The Zoloft | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 10:23 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Dec. 00 | I got it in an email also....sorry for the repeat read. "Don't ever underestimate the psycho factor in my head" -- Opie | ||||
| The Painter 1/2 a bottle of Jack Daniels... it's a cure-all | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 10:25 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | I think it was a great speech. I don't think there was anything trite about it. He has thrown down the gauntlet. It is now time for action. | ||||
| CriticsLoveSnatch i know better than to ask for a status from you mean ol' mods I shall call him mini-FTL | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 10:30 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | nana, i am 100% behind my president, and like i said, the speech was very good. i am as patriotic as anyone...i just think that bush as a public speaker is lacking, and just because theres a crisis that doesn't change. I'm not what anyone would call a W suporter, but i'm behind him, and i'm behind my country. thats the bottom line. and thinking's just too much to ask and you're measuring your minutes by a clock thats blinking eights | ||||
| GonzoStyle | posted on 09-20-2001 @ 10:56 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | Froy i could not disagree with you any more than i am right at this moment. Our president tonite gave a speech without being overwhelmingly self-conscious or self-important (that's a relief) about it; a president of the USA that I am very proud of...for all the right reasons. This was not a speech by a man who is a politician or trying to gain any approval rating points. This was a man who like few before him gave a speech as our leader and as an american. To say that he was cliche or using words and phrases to be remembered in history than every man before him is also a cliche. When FDR said that there will be no negotiations with japan, there will be no exception but unconditional surrender was that a cliche? When President Lincoln in his gettysburg was he also cliched? No these were men who stood up to a historic event, not to be historic which undoubtebly Bush will now be. Teddy Roosevelt charging up san juan hill though not a changing point in any historical relavence, but it stood out cause he was a president who let it be known; i am the man for the job to lead you. The presidents speech is a call to arms, as much as it is a call to justice, as much as it is a call to all good principles Americans value; a speech given by a president that is unassuming, grateful, steady, embracing, focused, inclusive, hopeful, and inspiring. Today i am honored to say thank you Mr. President, for being the man for the job  "For all we have and are, for all our children's fate, stand up and take the war, the Hun is at the gate!" --- Rudyard Kipling She-Mail Me Here | ||||
| Nana's Precious | posted on 09-21-2001 @ 9:44 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | Bravo Gonzo, Bravo........ 09-11-01 Never Forget, Never Forget | ||||
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