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IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death	posted on 01-26-2002 @ 11:16 PM
O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00	I have to take a class on Einstein's Theories in school and since it's the start of the semester we're doing a sort of pre-Einstein universal theory history thing and tonight I read some of what I have to read about the class and all I could thing of people like Kepler and Copernicus and Newton are considereded some of the great minds of all time but what does their discoveries prove to us? Orbits are ellipses, the earth rotates on its axis. These are some of the most important people in history and just trying to picture the theories and the changes in the orbits just makes me realize how useless we really are. it's quite depressing. I always think that humans are expendable but it really takes thinking about the universe and an inability to grasp the entire universe that puts our uselessness into complete perspective. Does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about? does anyone else live with this constantly? "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." Friday 1/26- CBS: touched by Angel, Life, Distruct...NBC: L&O (repeat), LOCI (R), LOSVU(R), SNL: Paltrow/Ryan Adams...FOX: Cops, Cops (R), AMW...HBO: Saving Silverman...ABC: Dr. No...UPN: Clara's Heart...WB: Red October...PBS: 9- Treasure of Sierra Madre...TNT: Analyze This...TBS: 7- Goonies...

Froy King Shit board owner	posted on 01-26-2002 @ 11:35 PM
O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01	Sure, it's the root of existentialism. I'm nothing, the world is nothing, there is no meaning, so why give a fuck. Go read some Camus, you'll love it. I believe in the Faith... that can save me. I believe in the hope and I pray... That someday it may raise me... above these badlands Over The Limit

SeeYouNextTuesday G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Elite Ninja Gaiden Infiltration Unit	posted on 01-26-2002 @ 11:39 PM
Psychopath Registered: Feb. 01	I know exactly how you feel. I've felt the same way on many occasions, and yes, its usually when I'm thinking about the large scale of things... life on Earth, evolution, etc. ---------------------------- "sync"in' cuz I kick the Unix OLD SCHOOL! Validictorian of the danked school of OA.com etiquette.

SLASH Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans)	posted on 01-26-2002 @ 11:39 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00	quote: Sure, it's the root of existentialism. I'm nothing, the world is nothing, there is no meaning, so why give a fuck. Go read some Camus, you'll love it. What you thought that was an original thought by Froy? HA! At least he threw in the "Camus' footnote this time. Froy, I think that Ikea was looking to see if he was alone around here with his constant thoughts on the subject. I think he wanted to know about real people NOT some philosopher he can check out in the library. AIM: SmarterChild Write To Me Here I think it all started with the Declaration of Independence -- the idea that we had the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit is what took America from the revolution to the computer age in 200 years. But the progress has come at a price. The obvious being the people that were exploited to make it possible; the not so obvious being us, the first group of people that were given no obvious frontiers to conquer. We hear stories that about the good old days that don't seem to apply anymore. It's a generation gap that leaves us without role models. But the bright side is that without role models, there are no roles. Maybe that's what the 60s were all about -- getting rid of the roles. But what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, the choices become overwhelming. Sometimes it just makes everything feel hopeless. So we destroy our bodies in the search of an ideal. Try to salvage relationships that don't work. We feel we must do something, instead of doing something that we feel. It is the prison of self-imposed momentum, and the sad part is that we get used to it. It reminds me of a song I heard the other day. It's called "The Going Nowhere Fast." But the people I have met here have shown me another side of Nowhere. They've pointed out the beautiful irony that stagnation makes it easy to stop and smell the roses, if we just let it. What would we be if we had nothing to rebel against? Well we could finally be ourselves, the first group of people who stopped looking for the answers long enough to appreciate the questions. And all we have to do is to make our own Declaration of Independence. We can embrace the right to life and liberty by simply realizing that happiness exists -- not to pursue, but to accept. After that the only challenge would be to make sure with the rest of our lives that we weren't just another fad. I don't know, it's an idea. What do you think?

OAAWITE	posted on 01-26-2002 @ 11:46 PM
Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70	Man, I just don't get the negativity of so many people, especially that it's being taught so much in schools. quote: Sure, it's the root of existentialism. I'm nothing, the world is nothing, there is no meaning, so why give a fuck. I swear, that is the root of all evil. It breeds nothing but lethargy. When the mind is dead, the body follows. Fuck that line of thinking. Whenever anyone feels like being philosophical they get into the "people are insignificant, no one can really change anything, life is meaningless, blah blah blah." And the more negative they are, the smarter and deeper everyone claims they are. When I look at the stars, I don't think how small we are, I think of fucking badass humans are that we can creat rocketships to overcome those distances and walk places that humans were never supposed to be. When I stare out at the ocean, and see nothing but water as far as the horizon, I realize that shitheads once thought the world was flat, but human ingenuity was able to come up with boats and planes that can traverse those distances in times that were once thought impossible less than a hundred years ago (a pubic in the relative time that humans have been on earth). One person CAN make a difference. And I'm not talking about do-gooders like Mother Theresa. Gates, Ellison, Jobs, McNeely. These single people have changed the world. They've made information flow to places and people that would have never gotten it were it not for people like that. Fuck insignificance. The people who THINK that they are insignificant, are. The negative people can never create shit, becuase their attitude doesn't energize people to believe in them or follow them. You want to get energized about the possibilities of what a single person can do? Go read some Ayn Rand. Her world is obviously not reality, but some optimism does worlds for your opinion of yourself, the possibilities of your future, and your general attitude at everything you approach. This message was edited by OAAWITE on 1-26-02 @ 11:57 PM

IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death	posted on 01-26-2002 @ 11:48 PM
O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00	actually I don't mind knowing some philosophers, in fact the main characters in The Stranger is one of my favorite literary characters of all time. I thought he was really cool. "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." Friday 1/26- CBS: touched by Angel, Life, Distruct...NBC: L&O (repeat), LOCI (R), LOSVU(R), SNL: Paltrow/Ryan Adams...FOX: Cops, Cops (R), AMW...HBO: Saving Silverman...ABC: Dr. No...UPN: Clara's Heart...WB: Red October...PBS: 9- Treasure of Sierra Madre...TNT: Analyze This...TBS: 7- Goonies...

The Sleeper Being a Minor is a Threat to my Social Life PoseUr i ahve 2 threads at teh top, i feel like maynard	posted on 01-26-2002 @ 11:50 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00	I think the fact that we kill each other over what we do not know kind of shows how useless we are as a race. You tell me that nothing matters, You're just fucking scared You tell me that I'm better, You just hate yourself You tell me that you like her, You just wish you did You tell me that I make no difference, Well at least I'm fucking trying What the fuck have you done?

Enigma Sig Pics of HOT CHICKS and an SU Feed... will wonders never cease?	posted on 01-26-2002 @ 11:52 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 00	Due to the content of the last couple of posts tonight, the boards IQ has just jumped up 30 points. Please stop here or I'm going to have to start posting another board.

Froy King Shit board owner	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 11:21 AM
O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01	The Stranger was an amazing book. It was one of the only books I've ever read more than once. quote: One person CAN make a difference. And I'm not talking about do-gooders like Mother Theresa. Gates, Ellison, Jobs, McNeely. These single people have changed the world. They've made information flow to places and people that would have never gotten it were it not for people like that. You're not seeing the larger picture of it. The earth is nothing, people are nothing, what you do in this life either as a ruler of peoples or a slave in the fields doesn't matter at all. It's effects are beyond fleeting. Humanity is but a flash in the pan at best, there is an infinitely large universe out there, what we do on our tiny little self-important and self-indulgent rock doesn't change a thing. I believe in the Faith... that can save me. I believe in the hope and I pray... That someday it may raise me... above these badlands Over The Limit

CJMello	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 11:41 AM
Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 02	quote: You're not seeing the larger picture of it. The earth is nothing, people are nothing, what you do in this life either as a ruler of peoples or a slave in the fields doesn't matter at all. It's effects are beyond fleeting. Humanity is but a flash in the pan at best, there is an infinitely large universe out there, what we do on our tiny little self-important and self-indulgent rock doesn't change a thing. Which pretty much explains why man invented God. Not only to deal with his own mortality; a linear 3 dimensional life in a boundless existence but also to try to explain what can't be explained. We fail to see beyond length, width and height. The universe has no such restrictions. Of course I could be wrong and still be just as fucked! "Spitters are Quitters."

OAAWITE	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 12:29 PM
Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70	quote: You're not seeing the larger picture of it. The earth is nothing, people are nothing, what you do in this life either as a ruler of peoples or a slave in the fields doesn't matter at all. It's effects are beyond fleeting. Humanity is but a flash in the pan at best, there is an infinitely large universe out there, what we do on our tiny little self-important and self-indulgent rock doesn't change a thing. That's bullshit. We're nothing compared to what? We're unimportant according to who? The grand scheme of things? We are our own grand scheme of things. The difference is, I don't measuere my life by how much I help other people. I have one goal in my ilfe: to be happy. And becuase of that, if the whole world stays the same, or revolutionizes becuase of something I do, doesn't really factor into my decision making. If I start a company and make a billion dollars, I will do so for the sole reason of making myself happy. It won't be becuase of all the good I give to society with technological innovations, jobs created, goodwill, etc.

taintnodoubt	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 12:45 PM
Hanger-On Registered: Jun. 01	I'm a big fat something. Man, is that empowering!

Ants in My Pants Billy Well, since this thread is going to be deleted anyway... I'm a flaming homosexual and I love having big hard hot man meat rammed into my mouth and ass. Umm, this IS going to be deleted, right??? Prettiest Butterfly in the garden All Blow job poems ©Fez 2002-2003. I'm obsessed with Alkey's penis.	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 1:04 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Apr. 01	quote: Due to the content of the last couple of posts tonight, the boards IQ has just jumped up 30 points. That's because all of us retards were out drinking last night in Queens. *"Ants in my pants, it was bigger than an elephant... I swear it was this big!" - Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen* You know what I think about Alkey, he's all spooooo.

Froy King Shit board owner	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 1:14 PM
O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01	quote: We are our own grand scheme of things We are our own scheme, but we are not grand. We are not very different from any anthill in the middle of a jungle. The reasons why you do things don't really matter. In the end, every decision you make is geared towards your own happiness, however altruistic the act may seem. It doesn't change the fact that you're living on borrowed time from the moment you are born. In the end, that's all you have, your own happiness and existence. You could die today, tomorrow, or fifty years from now. Does it matter? Not in the least, you will be forgotten quickly. Millions have come before you and millions will come after you. I believe in the Faith... that can save me. I believe in the hope and I pray... That someday it may raise me... above these badlands Over The Limit

donotkidme	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 1:16 PM
Psychopath Registered: Dec. 01	isn't it great. a new semester starts and you take bullshit classes you don't need but they fulfill cores. so you're full of useless info. <---- queen of useless info. Complaints? Too bad!

slackjaw The Cunt-Twat is my WORLD! The Great Pumpkin	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 1:36 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00	Ok..... WE are not important, that is the gist? Well, you are partially right.... WE mean nothing, but I mean everything. The world only exists in my eyes. I only see it and know it through my own perception. What color is blue? What does chicken taste like? What I see as blue may not actually be the same for you. Sure, we will both recognize it as blue because we have always known it as such, but we can never know that we both see the same thing. Now, your world exists for you, mine for me, but if I die, the world I live in ends, everything ceases to exist because it only truly existed in my mind. Eat shit and die :) AIM

SLASH Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans)	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 2:21 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00	quote: Froy, practically plaguerizing, wrote: In the end, every decision you make is geared towards your own happiness, however altruistic the act may seem. Hoo Hoo Froy, where the hell was that back-up from you in MYLTF's 'Kidness of Strangers' thread? Yes 'Kidness...' AIM: SmarterChild Write To Me Here I think it all started with the Declaration of Independence -- the idea that we had the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit is what took America from the revolution to the computer age in 200 years. But the progress has come at a price. The obvious being the people that were exploited to make it possible; the not so obvious being us, the first group of people that were given no obvious frontiers to conquer. We hear stories that about the good old days that don't seem to apply anymore. It's a generation gap that leaves us without role models. But the bright side is that without role models, there are no roles. Maybe that's what the 60s were all about -- getting rid of the roles. But what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, the choices become overwhelming. Sometimes it just makes everything feel hopeless. So we destroy our bodies in the search of an ideal. Try to salvage relationships that don't work. We feel we must do something, instead of doing something that we feel. It is the prison of self-imposed momentum, and the sad part is that we get used to it. It reminds me of a song I heard the other day. It's called "The Going Nowhere Fast." But the people I have met here have shown me another side of Nowhere. They've pointed out the beautiful irony that stagnation makes it easy to stop and smell the roses, if we just let it. What would we be if we had nothing to rebel against? Well we could finally be ourselves, the first group of people who stopped looking for the answers long enough to appreciate the questions. And all we have to do is to make our own Declaration of Independence. We can embrace the right to life and liberty by simply realizing that happiness exists -- not to pursue, but to accept. After that the only challenge would be to make sure with the rest of our lives that we weren't just another fad. I don't know, it's an idea. What do you think? This message was edited by SLASH on 1-27-02 @ 2:33 PM

Sir Okonkwo	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 4:17 PM
Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01	OAAWITE, I was waiting for the Ayn Rand reference while reading your initial reply. Good job sneaking it in in the end there... With that said, I agree with OAARand. It's easy to think of the billions of stars in the universe, the billions of planets that may revolve around those stars, the billions of creatures that may live on those planets, the billions of creatures that live on this planet, and realize that you're an insignificant being. But you'd be dead wrong. What if Thomas Edison had held that point of view? Or Ben Franklin, George Washington, all the scientists who have found cures for diseases once considered incurable, all the businessmen that bring you your television, motion picture, and musical entertainment, nicely packaged and marketed to be easily devoured by the masses? The truth is, if everyone bought into the "poor insignificant little me" philosophy, we'd still marvel at the wonders that are the wheel and fire, while waiting to die at the ripe old age of 25. So stop worrying about the "grand scheme of things." It's meaningless, because 99.99999999999% of what happens has no bearing on your life. Focus on what does matter, and what changes can be made to better your own life, and you'll be much better off. Or something like that.

OAAWITE	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 4:56 PM
Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70	quote: We are not very different from any anthill in the middle of a jungle. Fucking ponderous man. How can you say that? Of Course we are. Now, I guess you might be talking about "universally". OK, granted. Something I do isn't going to create a new planet or make the sun rise from the west. That makes us insignificant? Millions have come before and millions after, yes. But that doesn't mean that I'll be forgotten. Christ, Aristotle, Hitler, the aforementioned Einstein and thousands of other people have had such a profound effect on everyday life that they will never be forgotten no matter how long live exists. You think you are meaningless? Set your sights higher. This message was edited by OAAWITE on 1-27-02 @ 5:09 PM

CJMello	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 5:03 PM
Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 02	OAAWITE, the Pats win today just may have been enough to bring order to the universe. A new perspective if you will. "Spitters are Quitters."

Froy King Shit board owner	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 5:27 PM
O&A Board Veteran Registered: Feb. 01	quote: Froy, where the hell was that back-up from you in MYLTF's 'Kidness of Strangers' thread? Yes 'Kidness...' Sorry to disappoint you Slash, but not everything I write is somebody else's quote. You remember Hitler, Einstein, and whoever else because they are still contemporary figures. Humanity has been recording its own history in written form for roughly 7,000-8,000 years. That is barely a second on the Earth's clock. Yes, there are some people who become footnotes to history, but they are so few that they don't even register as a fraction. And even their memories are washed away by time, and a relatively short amount of time when you look at things relatively. I believe in the Faith... that can save me. I believe in the hope and I pray... That someday it may raise me... above these badlands Over The Limit

SLASH Pompous, Arrogant, Enigmatic, Bitter, Quirky, Misanthrope with a Weird Sense of Humor and an Iron Clad Memory while flooding the board with my Stream of Consciousness UFC STRIKE 3 (I'm a dick and I like to ruin people's plans)	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 7:07 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Aug. 00	quote: Sorry to disappoint you Slash, but not everything I write is somebody else's quote. How 'bout we settle on 'highly influenced' and call it a day? AIM: SmarterChild Write To Me Here I think it all started with the Declaration of Independence -- the idea that we had the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That pursuit is what took America from the revolution to the computer age in 200 years. But the progress has come at a price. The obvious being the people that were exploited to make it possible; the not so obvious being us, the first group of people that were given no obvious frontiers to conquer. We hear stories that about the good old days that don't seem to apply anymore. It's a generation gap that leaves us without role models. But the bright side is that without role models, there are no roles. Maybe that's what the 60s were all about -- getting rid of the roles. But what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, what do we replace them with? Without any guidance, the choices become overwhelming. Sometimes it just makes everything feel hopeless. So we destroy our bodies in the search of an ideal. Try to salvage relationships that don't work. We feel we must do something, instead of doing something that we feel. It is the prison of self-imposed momentum, and the sad part is that we get used to it. It reminds me of a song I heard the other day. It's called "The Going Nowhere Fast." But the people I have met here have shown me another side of Nowhere. They've pointed out the beautiful irony that stagnation makes it easy to stop and smell the roses, if we just let it. What would we be if we had nothing to rebel against? Well we could finally be ourselves, the first group of people who stopped looking for the answers long enough to appreciate the questions. And all we have to do is to make our own Declaration of Independence. We can embrace the right to life and liberty by simply realizing that happiness exists -- not to pursue, but to accept. After that the only challenge would be to make sure with the rest of our lives that we weren't just another fad. I don't know, it's an idea. What do you think?

IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death	posted on 01-27-2002 @ 9:06 PM
O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00	for some reaosn when i tried to reply to this thread the past couple of times my internet cut out. Anyway, OAA the point I'm trying ot make is no matter how "important" these people are, it's nothing. The earth will die out and all the accomplishments will be wiped out and so what, how will the universe be impacted. People like Gates, what has he done? He's made a lot of money with an operating system. in the grand scheme of things, it's nothing. "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." Sunday 1/27- CBS: Bickford, Sister's Keeper (retarded restard sister movie)...NBC: Link, CI, Third Watch (R)...FOX: Simpsons, Malcolm, X...ABC: Mouse Hunt, Stephen King's Rose Red (no Alias, suck ass)...UPN: Buffy, Practice...WB: Jamie Kenendy Experience, Nikki, Off Centre, For Your love...TNT: Ronin, USA: Virus,

HsaWaknow G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Stealth Assault Force Codename: Thief Ex	posted on 01-28-2002 @ 1:58 AM
Psychopath Registered: Oct. 01	My pops just got a telescope. A clear night makes u feel real fucking small. Anyway, i know our existence is meaningless to the grand scheme but why not just enjoy what we're doin now, just be happy, and like OAAWITE i would be pissed at people who didnt live like i did, but u gotta just worry about yourself and if other people don't get it, sucks for them. Its too much of a bitch to try and get people to understand u. Lead by example. I did a gweat whaaaat?

OAAWITE	posted on 01-28-2002 @ 2:06 AM
Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70	quote: People like Gates, what has he done? He's made a lot of money with an operating system. in the grand scheme of things, it's nothing Dude, he changed the world. Not to debate the merits of Gates specifically becuase I know the success of Microsoft largely rests on him lifting technology from other people right under their noses. But he saw it and they didn't. Good for him. TS for them. The point is. Becuase of that software that any PC-clone maker could use, every day life for every producing person in the industrialized world is better. That software has allowed entire industries to be created. It's saved people time from doing a task. What would take someone 4 hours now takes them 4 minutes. People have that time back. His software created time for people. The importance of that is infinate He turns to dust just like me. The last minute before the sun burns out, maybe no one will remember him. Certainly doesn't mean that he, or you, or me are insignificant? It doesn't get me angry that so many people are so negative and defeatist, I just can't fathom the mentality.

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