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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: Underage drinking- Just Say No doesn't wonders | ||||
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| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 02-26-2002 @ 10:49 PM |    | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00  | I am ashamed to be part of this age group. Here's just a few key parts of it WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Underage drinking has reached epidemic proportions in the United States, encouraged by television ads and parents who see drinking alcohol as a rite of passage, researchers said Tuesday. The legal U.S. drinking age is 21, but Columbia University's National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse found 31 percent of high school students binge drink, defined as five drinks in a row, at least once a month. "Underage drinking has reached epidemic proportions in America ... and parents are too often unwitting co-conspirators who tend to see drinking and occasional bingeing as a rite of passage," said Joseph Califano, the group's president and a former U.S. secretary of health, education and welfare. The report, using 1998 statistics, found those under 20 drank 63,230 alcoholic beverages a month, an average of 0.9 a day, and slightly more than 25 percent of the 251,194 alcoholic drinks consumed monthly by the sample as a whole. It said "regardless of any discrepancies" in the analysis, "any alcohol use before age 21 is unacceptable." Researchers said underage drinking, nudged into second place by drug abuse, is not discussed enough and the Columbia center wants the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy to broaden its focus and include alcohol in its media campaigns.  "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." I've purchased illegal substances once- i guess i caused the death of a baby- i wish i could have killed that fucker with my own hands. "Dude, Terrorism is so not cool. "- an RF.neter | ||||
| CriticsLoveSnatch i know better than to ask for a status from you mean ol' mods I shall call him mini-FTL | posted on 02-26-2002 @ 10:58 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: What??? i never "binge drank" by their definition during High school, but just about once a weekend i'll drink and when i do i drink more than 5 drinks (spaced out though) my opinion: as long as you don't drive or do anything too stupid, not a problem. This is one of very few countries in the world where you are old enough to die for your country but too young to have a beer.  I'll give you my life, cause I don't own anything Seems like the bottle was all that I had until now I'll give you my life, if you give me yours somehow. | ||||
| fbdlingfrg wow, my name looks odd without 5 lines of type below it in bold and purple and red G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Red Wings Captain Cecil JBA~Remove the Pick & Click NOW! | posted on 02-26-2002 @ 10:59 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | i've said it before, i'll say it again...if there was no drinking age, kids would not have drinking problems.they drink only because its forbidden | ||||
| CriticsLoveSnatch i know better than to ask for a status from you mean ol' mods I shall call him mini-FTL | posted on 02-26-2002 @ 11:01 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | quote: I used to believe that too, but now that i'm in an environment where about 90% of people drink underage, i think people drink because they think its fun, not because they can't. Just because it is related, i'll share this story with you guys: A fraternity at my school this semester, on the first night of pledging, gave seven pledges 2 handles of jack daniels (that would be three and a half liters of whiskey for those of you who don't know) and said that the bottles should be empty by morning. one of the pledges drank about two thirds of one bottle, got alcohol poisoning and went into a coma. a week later they took him off life support and he died. That kind of binge drinking, just drinking stupidly without regard for your personal limits is just retarded in my opinion. I'll give you my life, cause I don't own anything Seems like the bottle was all that I had until now I'll give you my life, if you give me yours somehow. | ||||
| Tequila Fez claims this land in the name of Portugal! Why worry about the train if it never makes it around the tracks?? IrishAlkey wuz here!!! | posted on 02-26-2002 @ 11:02 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jan. 01 | You cant blame Tv for every god damn thing in the world. You blame the fucking parents. If they spent more time paying attention the their kids and less time fucking their co-workers their kids wouldn't drink. AOL/AIM - oanda1027fm | ||||
| OAAWITE | posted on 02-26-2002 @ 11:04 PM | | |||
| Hanger-On Registered: Jan. 70 | What are you so ashamed of. Practically every country in the world allows people to drink earlier than 21. You can smoke, own a gun, sign contracts, act in porn, join the army to kill people and break things, but you can't have a drink. Binge drinking is retarded. 5 drinks in a row? That's not even drunk. That's just nursing a few beers at a party.  HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW, BITCH??!! Keep hacking, I'll keep posting New Poster with a question? AIM me Confirmed Kills: Foundry Music Jeff. | ||||
| IkeaBoy P.L.F. Portugese Liberation Front- Liberating Status' everywhere from the Tyranny of Portugal I will die a traitor's death | posted on 02-26-2002 @ 11:04 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Sep. 00 | shhh fbd, don't throw your information or statistics at us like in other countries with no drinking age having less drinking problems than us. it's what the government says so it must be real EDIT: Oh and quote:When people can't get sarcasm? "It appears my wee wee has been strucken with rigor mortis." I've purchased illegal substances once- i guess i caused the death of a baby- i wish i could have killed that fucker with my own hands. "Dude, Terrorism is so not cool. "- an RF.neter This message was edited by IkeaBoy on 2-26-02 @ 11:16 PM | ||||
| Norton's Victim | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 8:58 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 02 | I love to drink and yes I am underage. It's not like I drink everyday or constantly do it, but I can put a lot away. 5 beers would get me a little tipsy but I never have any problems. I also never drive when I have been drinking anything. CriticLoveSnatch, did that fraternity get kicked off? My frat just recently got kicked off because we got caught drinking a couple of times, but it had nothing to do with pledging. I think people in this country get a little up tight about what other people do. We never did anything to deserve getting kicked off, but we did. | ||||
| skitchr4u G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Xtreme Skiing Assualt Force | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 9:34 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Dec. 00 | quote: This is incorrect. When you are in the Armed Forces, and on base, you are allowed to drink at age 18. So you can drink when you put your life on the line for your country...just my 2cents... oh, but i do believe that more parenting on the use of alcohol is necessary, not necessarily fewer tv ads or more government spending/campaigning  | ||||
| MrQuotes NO!!! You can't have any smiley faces in your status!!! G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Missile Command | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 10:03 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Nov. 00 | more parents allow underage drinking then you would think its called practicality(or just giving up if ur that anal), and they say "just dont drive when you drink" and thats seems like a compromise to me and yes ive tried it a few times and am underage
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| Norton's Victim | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 10:05 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jan. 02 | quote: This is really true. Parents (not all) expect society to raise their children. It is your fucking job to do it. If you have a kid then you have to understand that it is up to you to teach them what to do and what not to do. It is really sickening that everything is going to have to be censored or banned just because someone forgot to take their pill and they don't feel that it is their responsibility to raise their children. | ||||
| WNEWs GIRL i don't have a mule but i have a cock Intercontinental Intergender Thumb Wrestling Champion CUNT ROCKETTE The new "third". AmyMohrBuddy One line in my sig is absolutely fucking disgusting, see if you can find it. | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 10:07 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Aug. 00 | i really dont see the big deal as long as people are responsible about it, not even some times age limits are stupid we find a way around the system anyway WHATEVER FTL ------------------------------------------------------------  I LOVE THE SLASH and THE CRACK HITLER and the REE FROSTY IS MY HERO and AUSTIN DESERVES AN OSCAR | ||||
| PeterDragon | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 10:29 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: I agree that you can't blame TV, but you can't throw all the blame on the Parents. I have a different perspective, being old enough to remember the 18 yr old drinking age. My parents were home and neither one was a drinker, and yet I would occasionally get wasted at age 16 or 17. I even went so far as to wind up in the hospital for "alchol overdose" at age 17, after drinking on High school grounds on Senior day(yeah, the school was really thrilled over that one). The problem is many teenagers a) think they are old enough to handle it, and b) think they are invincible. It takes maturity to drink responsibly. Some teenagers may be mature enough, but the majority are not. Those of you older than 25 know what I mean when I say that when you are 15 you do stuff that you never would do if you knew better. Hopefully those things turn out ok, but tragically sometimes they don't. I don't have an answer. Parents need to be involved, but we all know kids whose parents try but don't have a clue as to what their kids do. Eventually the individual has to make the right decisions for him/herself.  | ||||
| JVoorhees | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 10:42 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: May. 01 | quote: God Bless You We are also forgetting about some other elicit substances other than alcohol. Just a question? How many people have tried ecstacy, cocaine, etc...was marijuana just the pioneer drug, you thought? Enough of blaming the media.....Lets blame the people.  GO HOME HILLARY! | ||||
| WNEWs GIRL i don't have a mule but i have a cock Intercontinental Intergender Thumb Wrestling Champion CUNT ROCKETTE The new "third". AmyMohrBuddy One line in my sig is absolutely fucking disgusting, see if you can find it. | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 10:52 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Aug. 00 | cant we blame canada? but seriously im 18 and if i go out to a bar if i drink anything at all besides soda i will have one beer or two and thats it i dont smoke or do any kind of drugs and i do know a lot of people my age like that, people just like to point out the bad and say the youth of america is a bunch of stoner drunks WHATEVER FTL ------------------------------------------------------------ I LOVE THE SLASH and THE CRACK HITLER and the REE FROSTY IS MY HERO and AUSTIN DESERVES AN OSCAR | ||||
| JackDan1974 | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 10:57 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jul. 01 | People are always going to drink, and tennagers are always giong to have sex. It is just one of those things that no matter how much you try to prevent it is giong to happen. Teenagers are learning about the world, and their bodies, and so they like to experiment. I think that if you talk to them at an early age about these things, and what could happen, and try to show them examples. You can hope that when it comes time for them to choose to drink, or any dession in life, that through your teachings they will make the right one. This message was edited by JackDan1974 on 2-27-02 @ 11:01 AM | ||||
| usagirl21 | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 10:59 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Nov. 01 | Parents are the key to saying no to anything. When I was in high school, my dad only preached about not having sex. I never once heard, "don't do drugs and don't drink". As a result I was a virgin who did drugs (only for a year, then I grew a brain and decided to quit doing drugs). My fiance's parents talked to him continually about the dangers of drugs and how much he can screw up his life by getting high and/or getting a girl pregnant, so he did neither. In addition to talking about saying "no", the parents need to be positively involved in their children's lives. I think more seminars need to be given on how parents can effectively communicate with their children. Having worked at a swimming pool for the past 7 years, I have seen a lot of different parenting techniques. The parent's with the brats for kids, usually dish out orders and yell at their kids when the orders aren't followed. The parent's with good kids, give the children options within certain boudaries; but they enforce the fact that the child must execute one of the options. This technique can be used with a child at any age and would be beneficial when it comes to tougher discussions as the child progresses into their adult life. *****************************  Yes, the WOW was MS-Painted on | ||||
| WNEWs GIRL i don't have a mule but i have a cock Intercontinental Intergender Thumb Wrestling Champion CUNT ROCKETTE The new "third". AmyMohrBuddy One line in my sig is absolutely fucking disgusting, see if you can find it. | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 11:07 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Aug. 00 | i think this thread has gotten waaaaay too much like middle school health class WHATEVER FTL ------------------------------------------------------------ I LOVE THE SLASH and THE CRACK HITLER and the REE FROSTY IS MY HERO and AUSTIN DESERVES AN OSCAR | ||||
| barch97 BBTB The barch gots lots a dick I kind of enjoy my anonymity on the board WOW Forum Ambassador | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 11:11 AM | | |||
| O&A Board Veteran Registered: Jul. 00 | When the "war" is won and, all the drugs are finally removed from the world. How will they stop us from spinning around on our lawns until we get dizzy and fall down? Long Live the "Syndication Underground" | ||||
| Mike Rotch | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 11:57 AM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Apr. 01 | Underage drinking is a problem because the age is too high. In the 80's, too many kids died from drunk driving, so they started to crack down hard on DUI and they raised the drinking age. I think they were right to crack down on the driving, but raising the age limit causes new problems. If an 18 year old is hanging out in a bar and gets shitfaced, they can stop serving them alcohol. If that kids friends are in the same bar, the kid will either go home or pass out in the corner somewhere. This may not be true always, but in most cases that's what happened. Now, if that same 18 year old is drinking in the park with some friends, there is nobody to cut them off. They can drink themselves into a coma before anyone notices. This is where the problem lies.  Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning. A non-functining mind is Clinically dead. Believe in nothing... | ||||
| ClusterF@#$ | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 1:12 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Fun with out of context statistics: quote: 63,320 beverages/ 30 days in a month = one drunk ass 13 year old pounding 2,010.6 drinks per day. Pfffff... lightweight.
Message to those concerned with my smoking habit.... mamma didn't raise no quitter. | ||||
| kevin from ct
| posted on 02-27-2002 @ 2:10 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Sep. 00 | one drunk ass 13 year old pounding 2,010.6 drinks per day. ...those had better be light beers or he's gonna get way bloated | ||||
Nay. We are but men. ROCK. The man with the plan. | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 3:44 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | I haven't had a single urge to get piss drunk since I turned 21. I think that once drinking becomes legal, it gets boring. I completely believe that, though CLS said it's just for having fun, half of that fun is that you're not 21 yet but you're drinking. Most of my friends off the board (they exist, really, they do) have been the same way. Drink like a fish before turning 21, but after that, it's just a social thing. It's just a responsible thing to loosen you up. Cause remember - people of legal age have a limit on the alcohol they can drink if they're driving. People who aren't, the limit is any alcohol at all, so why not go nuts? EDIT: I believe that in the early 80s, drinking & driving-related accidents decreased. Why? Because in 1974, the drinking age was lowered to 18. It was raised back to 21 in 1987.  This message was edited by FollowThisLogic on 2-27-02 @ 3:55 PM | ||||
| Cunt-Twat I'm not a Cockblocker, I'm a COCKSUCKER! | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 5:52 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | i drank in high school, but not excessively, every once in awhile. but i agree with ftl, once it's legal, it's not that fun to get shit faced, cuz usually there are responsibilites that go along with it. ============================================== :) WHO SAID I DON'T LOVE THE SLACKJAW?!? :) | ||||
| Spork | posted on 02-27-2002 @ 8:18 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Jun. 01 | It would be interesting if this group also studied Canada because the country is culturally similar to the U.S., but the drinking age is 19 in 8 of the 10 provinces and 18 in the other 2 (Quebec and Alberta for those of you looking for a road trip). The big difference is the alcohol culture within youth. It seems like in the U.S. a lot of college life is linked with drinking. That's not so much the case in Canada I would say. I would agree with others and say that a lot of it is the allure of doing something you're not supposed to be doing. But more than anything, it's always just a matter personal responsibility - something that is sadly lacking nowadays.  Thank you to all the brave volunteers who brought us all together as a country, and thank you to those of you brave soldiers who will fight and have fought for our country. We are a free people because of your efforts. | ||||
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