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posted on 04-28-2001 @ 11:12 PM      
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i didnt get to see all of it because of the devils game, but what i did see i really enjoyed, i think the movie was done extremely well, great job by pepper and jane(?).[joke] oh yea he breaks the record (i r00ned it)[/joke]

the last part of the movie with mcgwire is pretty emotional too


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posted on 04-28-2001 @ 11:16 PM      
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i enjoyed the movie a lot. i thought it was well-made and well-acted by pepper and jane. as a baseball and a yankee fan, it really made me appreciate the history of the game.

as much as i can't stand billy crystal, i though he did a really good job with this.



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posted on 04-28-2001 @ 11:29 PM      
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I thought this was one of the most well-done baseball movies I have ever seen. I'm no Billy Crystal fan either, but he did exactly what I was hoping he would - he made the players seem HUMAN. I'm a huge Yankee fan, bleed Yankee blue, etc., but even I can respect the fact that all the legends are just men - and men with feelings, and faults.

Throughout most of the movie, I kept wishing I had been alive during those times - it seemed people cared a lot more about the sport then. Considering I was in tonight, this was a great way to spend the night.


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posted on 04-29-2001 @ 12:43 AM      
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I agree i have always been a huge baseball historian from the days of napleon lajoie and ty cobb to mcgwire and sosa. I have always loved the rich history of the yankees.

Gehrig was always my idol and ideal baseball player. From ruth, gehrig, dimagio, mantle, maris, berra all the greats of baseball history we're yankees.

yeah there were greats like cobb, hornsby, wagner, foxx, and mays. But the yankee history is the most epic dynasty in any sport.

They made a god seem human in mantle, crystal is a die hard yankee fan and he did it with love. He personified how fans were fans back then fanatics and the game was something holy. Maris won the MVP that year and had 1 more good year and faded after that. He got a bad rap and is not considered a great but for 2 seasons he was a great and for one season he was a god. how many people can say that?


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posted on 04-29-2001 @ 1:12 AM      
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i thought this movie was incredible.

i watched it with my girlfriend, she doesnt even like baseball and she even enjoyed it.

i really fucking couldnt believe that prick commisioner and the babes fat ass wife, they were both assholes


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posted on 04-29-2001 @ 1:17 AM      
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i thought the movie was great....way better than *64 lol

the guys playing mantle and maris really were great, and they really slammed the media which i though was interesting. billy crystal had an interview with costas on HBO and you can tell that he really loved making this movie, i really thought it was a great baseball movie


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posted on 04-29-2001 @ 1:43 AM      
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quote:

i really fucking couldnt believe that prick commisioner and the babes fat ass wife, they were both assholes


I read somewhere that Crystal tried to stay as close to the facts as he could - so I'm not sure if the babe's wife was really like that (anyone here know for sure?) But the Commissioner I don't doubt.

What I also remember was the scene where Maris blows off the reporter, and the reporter is fuming. At one point, he said something to the effect of "He thinks because he makes $38,000.00 a year he thinks who he is" - I was like, damn! 38K! Some players today make that in one at-bat! Just another reason I wished I lived in that era, the slaries meant so much more to the players than they do to the owners concerned about filling the stands (like today). I know salaries are going through the roof in all sports these days, but I'm a baseball fan at heart, and the sport is really nothing like it used to be - kinda sad, if you think about it.


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posted on 04-29-2001 @ 1:55 AM      
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38k, that was not a bad salary by any means back then,, hotdogs costed a nickel or so my father says, so if u think about it really, its not a bad salary


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posted on 04-29-2001 @ 4:41 PM      
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They make the commish to be more of a villan than he really was. First of all many baseball players and experts agreed that Maris should have had to beat Ruth in the same amount of games Ruth did it in, so its not like the Commish was one stubborn asshole.

This excerpt from ESPN.com dismisses the myth about Frick (the entire article can be found HERE.....

"Stan Musial: "It's a good rule. Baseball records were based on 154-game schedules. ... Eight additional games can make a big difference in the records."

Norm Cash: "If a player is to break Ruth's record, he should do it in the same number of games that Ruth did."

Warren Spahn: "It should be the way the Commissioner ruled ... in order for it to count, they should do it in 154 games."

Whitey Ford: "I'm all for the Commissioner's decision. ... it's got to be done within 154 games or it won't mean anything."

Mickey Mantle: "I think it's right. Ruth set it in 154 games, and you should beat it in the same number of games. If I should break it in the 155th game, I wouldn't want the record."

Roger Maris: "I think the Commissioner shouldn't have made any 154-game ruling when he did. But if Mick breaks it, I hope he does it in 154. The same goes for me."

Thirty years after the fact, commissioner Fay Vincent rescinded Frick's ruling and removed the mythical asterisk from Maris' record. I think Vincent was correct in doing so, and, in the interest of full disclosure, I'm proud and happy to have played a small part in his decision. But the point is that whatever your feelings on Frick's decision, it was truly a difficult one at the time that he made it.

Finally, I never met Ford Frick and don't know anyone in his family. But this much is clear: however important and controversial his decision on the home run record, it was not the most important one of his baseball career. Because it was Frick, when he was National League president in 1947, who stood tall in opposing the plans hatched by various National League players to refuse to play against the Brooklyn Dodgers if Jackie Robinson were in the Dodgers' lineup.

It was Frick who was the second-most important baseball executive -- second only to Branch Rickey -- in that saga. It was Frick who proclaimed that he would go "down the line" with Robinson, and that he didn't care if there were forfeited games "or it if wrecks the league for five years" - that Robinson had as much right to play in the league as any other American citizen. The resistance to Robinson crumbled.

It would be a shame if his legacy is reduced to that of a "villain." "


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This message was edited by Cranky Ass on 4-29-01 @ 4:47 PM
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posted on 04-30-2001 @ 8:19 AM      
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WBK, I'm right wiht you, my girlfriend and I watched it, and she kinda likes baseball, but she was really interested, and I loved it, the people I thought were god like (cause I am only 28 and didn't see them play) were human, flawed and still likeable. The actors were great, they did a fabulous job. Anthony Michael Hall as Whitey Ford was good, it is nice to see he still is working. The part with McGuire in the end was great, still brings a tear to my eye. Hats off to Billy Crystal for doing the best baseball movie since field of dreams. (And better too)





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posted on 04-30-2001 @ 8:37 AM      
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61* was a very good HBO movie, but certainly wouldn't hold up if you had to pay $9 to see it.

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