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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 05-07-2001 @ 7:35 PM      
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As some of you know my comp has been fucked up lately. I have just have a simple question.

I wasnt able to boot into windows so I created a rescue disk from my friend's Win 98 machine. I'm running Win ME. When I insert the disk it says that if I boot it it may cause irreparable damage. Can I use this disk or will it force me to format my windows partition? This is one of my last options if it doesn't work I might have to format my disk. So if there is a 50-50 chance I might just take it. Can anyone help me?



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posted on 05-07-2001 @ 7:52 PM      
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I'm not really sure, as I've personally never had to use a boot disk, but I would think there might be problems since you're using a Win98 boot disk, as oppossed to an ME disk - I'm thinking there might be a few things different that ME might need to use on the disk that 98 doesn't put on their boot disk. Reformatting is a bitch, I agree, but sometimes, its the best thing you can do. Sorry to hear about your recent troubles, I had a bout with my machine last month, but I (think) I got all the kinks worked out.

Hopefully someone else will be of more help.


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posted on 05-07-2001 @ 7:53 PM      
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AM, glad ya asked...

Why are ya using a rescue disk from a Windows 98 machine for Win Me?

[Joke]If ya can, boot into DOS...

Once there you have several options

1. Deltree (Deltree *.*), it ia a wonderful DOS command - Brings a tear to my eye every time.

2. FDISK, the mother of all DOS commands - this one here actually had me cream my pants.

Try these out, I have more if ya need them. [/Joke]



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Sonof Spaz
posted on 05-07-2001 @ 8:25 PM      
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Scan the disk for errors.
Defragment it.
Then see what happens.
In DOS: c:\windows\scandskw.exe
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posted on 05-07-2001 @ 9:45 PM      
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Registered: Sep. 00
Is there anything really important and irreplacleble on your machine right now?
I mean, if it's stuff for your job or if you work in graphics and have everything saved on it that is one thing.
But if all you have is some porn and a cracked version of EverQuest, then it might be a good idea to just reformat the whole thing. When you reinstall Windows, everything will run so much faster. The OS gets more and more bloated all the time, so as time goes on, your machine will slow down just from normal operation. But remember, if there is anything on that computer that can not be replaced, then don't format unless you have to.
Ah...the beauty and splendor of fdisk


Kwyjibo
posted on 05-07-2001 @ 10:08 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Why are you using the boot disk, if it is not from the same version as your software, don't use it. One thing that you can do is boot from the Winblows ME cdrom. All you have to do is put it in the boot order ahead of the diskette and the hdisk. If you don't know how to do this (I have a feeling you do) watch the screen when you first turn on the system. Watch for what key you need to press to enter setup mode and press it. Once in the BIOS setting, arrow over to boot and follow the instructions to move the ATAPI Cdrom up in the order. Just make it first.

You can also load Windows over itself. This just reinstalls drivers and corrects reg errors. A better questions is what f'd it up? It sounds like you have dual boot machine, did the boot manager get out of whack and that is what you need to correct?

Good luck.

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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 05-07-2001 @ 10:14 PM      
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I actually did change the boot order but not for that reason. I am going to try that. I created an NTFS partition for use with Win2k and apparently ME got all screwed up. I don't what happened because I went away during the process. I got to try reloading Windows now to see if that works. This a lot more help than that dumbass tech support guy.



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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 05-07-2001 @ 10:38 PM      
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Alright now i have another problem. When I boot from the WinShit cd it asks me me if i want to boot to my hard drive which was where i was before, to boot with cd support, or to boot without cd support. I would assume I would go with cd support and I get thru this copyright crap and it says.

quote:


Drive D: Driver OEMCD001 Unit 0
Drive E: Driver OEMCD001 Unit 1

A:\>
quote:



What do I input or should I have gone somewhere else in the menu.



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FoundryMusicMatt
posted on 05-07-2001 @ 10:48 PM      
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Perhaps your cookie has been compromised?? It could be an error in your alt-routing BIOS DNAS from the central CPU to your 512k gigaflop processor. The overloading of megs might produce an excess of DNAS info, resulting in the slow system speed and possiblt damage done to your LAN Routing STBS 1125 Generator.

Alternately, perhaps the gigawatt was charged, couple with the temporal displacement field, generated by the time vehicle, caused a disruption of your own brainwaves, resulting in a condition of momentary amnesia. Do you remember seeing moments after the time vehicle disappeared into the future, a vision of Marty saying I've come back from the future?

In either case, i reccommend h4x0ring teh gibson.


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posted on 05-07-2001 @ 10:52 PM      
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I think it is a joint problem... you put everything together and throw it in the garbage can. hehe.. ok ok that sucked, I 'm outta here.



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Kwyjibo
posted on 05-07-2001 @ 11:08 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Too funny Matt. Well, Adolescent, I am going to point you to the place that I go when I need to solve a serious problem www.deja.com. They have message boards there. Damn floating
ad I can't see
what I am typing.

There is usually some good answers. They may suck now that they have been taken over by google.

Oh, and yes you want cdrom support.

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posted on 05-07-2001 @ 11:31 PM      
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AM - A few things...

1) An NTFS partition can ONLY be used with Windows NT or Windows 2000. It cannot be seen (or booted) by 95/98/ME. Personally, I'd suggest that you cut your losses and just continue, using 2K Pro as your primary OS.

2) The 98 boot disk is giving you the "No partition found" screen of text because you have an NTFS partition on there, which a 98 boot disk will see, but can't read. 98 (and its boot disk, and 95 and ME for that matter) can ONLY read FAT16 or FAT32 partitons. If you don't have one of those, you'll get the screen you got.

3) The OEMCD things just loaded your CD-ROM(s) for use in DOS. It did what it was supposed to do. However, it also probably says "The dignostic tools were successfully loaded to drive C." - No, it didn't screw your hard drive up, it just doesn't know that it exists (see #2). Then the CD drives take D and E after that.

Basically everything's working like it was designed - you're just getting weird shit happening because your partition is now NTFS.

Might as well go to 2000. If you know NT at all, you'll probably like it. Hell, even if you don't, I do know that you're into computers, so it should be fun to learn.

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zootybang
posted on 05-07-2001 @ 11:37 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
Is this even english you guys are speaking?I just click on "you've got mail".seems to work for me.


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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 05-07-2001 @ 11:42 PM      
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FTL..

1) I know that I was planning to put 2000.

2) No no i resized my original fat partition and created an NTFS partition for Win2K. Maybe I screwed up somehow.

3)I did not get a diagnostic tools message.



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zootybang
posted on 05-07-2001 @ 11:53 PM      
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I put this neat little partition between my living room and kitchen.Really seemed to brighten up the room.
(sorry.i couldnt help myself.please carry on with actual helpful hints.)


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This message was edited by zootybang on 5-7-01 @ 11:55 PM
adolescentmasturbator
posted on 05-07-2001 @ 11:56 PM      
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BTW Deja is harder to navigate than foundry music....that old gag. But since my problem is so specific I have trouble with putting in the right search. If it is any help this was because I couldn't boot because it said certain system files were missing or damaged but I do see them from the Linux root directory so they are there. It asks me to type in the boot loader and it repeats the process. This is when I try to boot from hard disk. BTW zootybang carry on with your comments, I'm not stopping you.



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posted on 05-08-2001 @ 12:07 AM      
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Resizing partitions... talk about your big huge crazy mistakes.... the notion that something like Partition Magic WON'T fuck up your system is nice to think, but it works two ways.... either it works and it's fine or it doesn't and you're royally fucked.

You're looking closer to the latter, at this point.

If it didn't give the diagnostic tools message, you probably just missed it. It's there. The way a Win98 boot disk works (CD support or not) is that after booting its DOS mode, it creates a 2 megabyte RAMDrive (virtual drive created in an area of your RAM) then loads all the files from EBD.CAB (a file on the disk - CAB is Microsoft's answer to ZIP) onto that RAMDrive. Then it says what drive those files are on.... you probably just didn't see it.

The reason Linux can see the files but you get the error is probably that the boot sector is looking in the wrong place for them (probably looking at the wrong partition or wrong logical drive).

You're in a mess now, man.... save what you can save, throw Partition Magic (or whatever you use) in the trash and never touch it again, then start fresh with 2000. If you want extra room for Linux or Win9x... CREATE THE EXTRA PARTITIONS BEFORE STARTING!!!! This saves you many headaches.

Oh, and if you REALLY REALLY want to tri-boot, though I don't know why you would, install in this order:

1) Windows 95/98/ME
2) Windows NT/2000
3) Linux

Or if you're cutting out 9x, then skip step 1.

Reason: NT/2000 will set up a dual boot with 9x, then Linux will dual boot with NT/2000.

But I can't stress it enough..... if you want 3 partitions, set up 3. If you want 2, set up 2. But don't fuck with them once they're set - you only run the risk of screwing shit up, no matter how good you may be.

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posted on 05-08-2001 @ 12:32 AM      
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sorry for the interruption, skank if you have nothing intelligent to contribute just move along. or face the consequences. thanx. now back to your regularly scheduled computer confusion



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This message was edited by Faceman on 5-8-01 @ 12:35 AM
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posted on 05-08-2001 @ 12:35 AM      
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quote:

sorry for the interruption, skank if you have nothing intelligent to contribute just move along. or face the consequences. thanx. no back to your regularly scheduled computer confusion


Face, if you had to say that for every pointless post of his, you'd crash the board.

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posted on 05-08-2001 @ 12:39 AM      
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you know ftl i was thinking the same thing after i posted that:):)



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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 05-08-2001 @ 3:55 PM      
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OK I guess I should just format. But I see my files and can transfer them I want to trasfer it thru the network. How do I configure Linux Samba to network with a Windows machine? I'll put my data drive there and use it only for data. Then I will use my original drive just for Linux, and Windows System Files.



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