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GonzoStyle
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 2:10 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
Ok the FCC has finally turned into what it has always been pegged as and that is the Gestapo. This is the latest story, the FCCis fining a radio station over a hundred grand,for playing Eminems "the real slim shady" They say even with the bleeps the material is still offensive cause of what is suggested. Now this is idea based censorship at it's finest and this is the first step to total mind control. The radio station said it has been playing the song since last year or whenever the track came out. Now the newly appointed Bush FCC says what was able to pass under the old FCC standards during Clintons terms is not gonna pass anymore.

Now no matter if you hate eminem or like him this is not the case here peopple. He doesn't bash gays if you listen to the fuckin record and not what people tell you. He bashes ICP for being faggots. The term fag or gay i mean come on who here has never said "dude come on that is so gay" or "man come on don't be such a fag" This is the context in which he uses it. And as far as killing his wife in one track who here didnt have one woman in their life they didnt wish they could kill?

But i am not defending eminem here i am saying the people who say it is offensive mostly older people and politicians do not listen to the music they made a generalization. And people who didnt listen or chose to listen with the preconcieved notion he bashed gays is stupid for it.

But for the FCC to fine a station for playing a song that is edited by the FCC standards that were set at the time is an atroscity. The suggestive stipulation is not set in stone it is whatever the new FCC feels is immoral so who is to know what they deem wrong? and who are they to decide for us? The album is labeled as offensive so don't buy it. This may seem like nothing big but when Hitler came to power and set the nuremberg laws removing jews from high level jobs it didn't seem like a big deal, but the stones need to be set in place for them to fall on your head.

I mean come on eminem is a criminal yet Jerry Lee Lewis who is revered as a rock legend. Married his 12 year old cousin and broke into elvis's house with a gun intending to kill him. The open drug use of rock stars and the offensive lyrics in so many classic rock songs who is to say they won't start editing those old favorites? If they can edit looney tune cartoons with elmer fudd and bugs what is next?


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adolescentmasturbator
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 2:21 PM      
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Does this mean that they will be fining thousands of radio stations across america since that was a hit song.



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This message was edited by adolescentmasturbator on 6-9-01 @ 2:26 PM
mikeWOW
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posted on 06-09-2001 @ 2:26 PM      
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that is f'in horse shit!

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GonzoStyle
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 2:35 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

Does this mean that they will be fining thousands of radio stations across america since that was a hit song.



I missed the begining of the story last night. So i don't know if they were fining them for playing it recently, but they can't fine them for playing it in the past because back then they were abiding by the current FCC guidlines. Unless they were not enforced. I tried looking for the story but i heard it on MTV last night at like 3 am. There was a similar story in january of a station getting fined 7 grand for playing an UNedited version of the song but that is understandable.

But hey they censor eminem then they will censor howard and O&A cause they make pedophelia and rape jokes. BUT HEY it's a joke, well yeah it is but to them it is all the same. Hell to eminem it is a joke but for whatever reason he is different. The world is a fuckin joke come on guys if we can't laugh in the face of tragedy we will succumb to it.


People say that I'm a bad influence
I say the world's already fucked, I'm just addin to it
You probably think that I'm a negative person
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Fuck it, you only live once you might as well die now

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GAGOOTZ
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 3:14 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
Yeah, just ike how the Dire Straits song "Money for Nothing." The guy has a whole verse talking about how stupid the "little faggots" are. Are they gonna start censuring the classics.



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GonzoStyle
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 3:24 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

Yeah, just ike how the Dire Straits song "Money for Nothing." The guy has a whole verse talking about how stupid the "little faggots" are. Are they gonna start censuring the classics



lmao, not quite what i meant by "classics"


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Fez
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posted on 06-09-2001 @ 3:30 PM      
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The FCC are faggots!


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GonzoStyle
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 3:33 PM      
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quote:

The FCC are faggots!



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People say that I'm a bad influence
I say the world's already fucked, I'm just addin to it
You probably think that I'm a negative person
I don't promote violence, I just encourage it
Fuck it, you only live once you might as well die now

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Fez
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posted on 06-09-2001 @ 3:39 PM      
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Fuck you queer


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This message was edited by Fez on 6-9-01 @ 3:41 PM
GonzoStyle
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 3:43 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
Fez that is no way to speak to Gagootz come on man he is ok.


People say that I'm a bad influence
I say the world's already fucked, I'm just addin to it
You probably think that I'm a negative person
I don't promote violence, I just encourage it
Fuck it, you only live once you might as well die now

She-Mail Me Here



This message was edited by GonzoStyle on 6-10-01 @ 3:30 AM
IkeaBoy
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posted on 06-09-2001 @ 4:12 PM      
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This story happened awhile ago, I'm pissed I forgot to post it but I agree, this can't be good. They are attacking thoughts now.

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The Great Pumpkin
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 5:51 PM      
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This is what happens when the majority of Americans keep quiet and the minority interests speak loudly. (Note, by minority interests I refer to those whose general opinion is in the minority, not racial minorities) The average American could really care less if Eminem or any other singer bashed homosexuals for hours on end. Most homosexuals could care less, they understand the context in which it was meant. However, those people who do care scream at the top of their lungs....and are heard. The politicians run scared, afraid to lose their jobs, so laws get passed that are not actually the will of the people. Many of us will bitch and complain when it is too late, but perhaps if we cared enough to stop it by speaking our minds, these things would not take place.

Now, I will use this as an example, but understand that this is not necessarily my opinion: The gun lobby uses the same argument that we are discussing here, if we cave in on this point, what will stop them from taking the next step. And in that sense, they are right. We must fight such transgressions at the onset, or we risk losing freedoms in the end.

It is time for the FCC to be disbanded. It's very existence borders on being unconstitutional. It only truly exists because regulation is needed to protect business interests such as copyright infringement and area broadcast priveledges. Originally the only true purpose of the FCC was to regulate communication commerce, protect small broadcasters by issuing frequency licenses, ensure that broadcasters were not causing interference with other electronic equipment, etc. Somewhere along the way, we allowed them to start regulating content, and slowly but surely, they are trying to expand their domain. The biggest problem is that nobody has really been able to take a strong case to the Supreme Court and no politician is willing to risk making a case themselves. Until WE stand up and make our feelings known, these infringements will continue until we eventually have no freedom to choose what we want to hear, view, do.



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posted on 06-09-2001 @ 6:36 PM      
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That's just wrong.
BTW Gonzo... I note you have a quote from "Bad Influence".. are you an Eminem fan??
lol me too.


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posted on 06-09-2001 @ 6:51 PM      
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What's next Gonzo is that we take the FCC and them whiter than white people, load them all onto a truck and bring them out into the field.
Then, we get a cable station to show it live as we execute them one by one.
The day I get my thoughts censored is when I'm dead in my coffin, but I requested to be used as chum when I die.
So therefore, It's time for a revolution.



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Mr. Brownstone
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 7:12 PM      
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quote:

BTW Gonzo... I note you have a quote from "Bad Influence".. are you an Eminem fan??
lol me too

Heh heh, same here.
Follow me and do exactly what the song says:
smoke weed, take pills, drop outta school, kill people and drink
And jump behind the wheel like it was still legal...

Now follow me and do exactly what you see
Don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!
I slap women and eat shrooms then O.D.
Now don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!...

I came to the club drunk with a fake ID
Don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!
I've been with 10 women who got HIV
Now don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!
I got genital warts and it burns when I pee
Don't you wanna grow up to be just like me!
I tie a rope around my penis and jump from a tree
You probably wanna grow up to be just like me!!!





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posted on 06-09-2001 @ 7:25 PM      
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quote:

However, those people who do care scream at the top of their lungs....and are heard.

Correction:
Those people do not scream the loudest, they throw the most money at the burecrats.
It costs a LOT of money to be a high-level politician. In order to campaign the at the next election, a candidate must raise HUGE amounts of cash. Where do they get the cash from: Lobbyist.
Rich, old, white people who don't like the way we express ourselves and want to throw our culture back to the 1950's.
It's the new way of thinking. We will consider parents to be too irresponsible to raise their own children, because...hell, look at the shitty job they do. So, what do we do, we take anything that might possibly do some damage to their poor little emotions and get rid of it, instead of allowing the parents to do that.
But hey, I still love America, it's better than any other country out there...some things just need to be changed

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posted on 06-09-2001 @ 7:29 PM      
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I find that song offensive Brownstone and will do all I can to fine you for posting it.

Also, the song being fined is "The Real Slim Shady?" How long has that been out, over a year at least and it takes until now for someone to contact the FCC and the FCC to fine them? A song that's been played on every radio station, network TV thanks ot the Grammys and MTV hundreds of times. Fine us all if you want to fine one. Don't single out scapegoats when we're all to blame.

EDIT: I know exactly what you are saying Doc Smith. These people want us to go back to the 1950s, these people want us back in the Donna Reed lifestyle. They want us to enter a period of the dark ages. We can't progress technologically and remain behind culturally. There's a reason why people change, why we've changed and that's because some people are willing to accept other lifestyles, conflicting opinions, etc.. If you want to go gay, go gay. You're not anally raping me, have anal sex with whomsever you want. Once people stop being so closed minded, then this country will be a better place, then the FCC will be told to fuck off but we really have to wait for everyone in Congress to die before that happens.

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This message was edited by IkeaBoy on 6-9-01 @ 8:36 PM
FaithLess Listener
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 7:37 PM      
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Registered: Jun. 01


FCC guidebook

This message was edited by FaithLess Listener on 6-9-01 @ 7:39 PM
GonzoStyle
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 9:49 PM      
Hanger-On
Registered: Jan. 70
Faithless FINNALLY!!!!!! something i can applaud you on my friend, bravo.


People say that I'm a bad influence
I say the world's already fucked, I'm just addin to it
You probably think that I'm a negative person
I don't promote violence, I just encourage it
Fuck it, you only live once you might as well die now

She-Mail Me Here

Claire
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 11:18 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Feb. 01
Yep, a big right on to Faithless.
"INGSOC". "Newspeak". "The Ministry of Peace". "The Thought Police". "Doublethink".
Scary shit. It was when Orwell wrote it, it still was in 1984, and it still is now...
I used to subscribe to an Anti-Censorship group/magazine, but fell out of touch with it. Anyone have good info on groups fighting this bullshit? If I find anything of use online I'll advise. There should be, as the WWW is one of the most concerned parties about fighting Censorship.
The FCC and various uptight, Morally "Correct" groups have always tried to legislate morality, but now they seem to be attempting to legislate opinions/commentary on morality?
That's IT. I'm going to Mars with ZootyBang. Let's go Honey.




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GonzoStyle
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 11:22 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 70
quote:

That's IT. I'm going to Mars with ZootyBang



Goin home finally claire?


People say that I'm a bad influence
I say the world's already fucked, I'm just addin to it
You probably think that I'm a negative person
I don't promote violence, I just encourage it
Fuck it, you only live once you might as well die now

She-Mail Me Here

Claire
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 11:48 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Feb. 01
Damn right :)
"Beam me up, Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here"
That old gag.


Graduate from the 'tallica school of newbies
Did you ever look at your watch? & then look up-& you have NO IDEA what time it is?
"I seem to be experiencing tremendous difficulty with my lifestyle"-Arthur Dent.
"Scrape 'em off, Claire"-Bill Murray, "Scrooged"
FaithLess Listener
posted on 06-09-2001 @ 11:53 PM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
Aw man G S...now I feel all weird and icky...I was hoping for somthing like...."So who read it to you?" :)



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