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hornygoatweed23 I've Got A Vagina With Teeth. G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Dragoon Battalion My friends call me Weed	posted on 04-01-2001 @ 7:37 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01	is anyone experienced at upgrading CPU's here? So far, I've upped the vid card, sound card, added a cd-rw, etc, basically did all I can to keep my PC up to date and versatile (dell dimension). However, I'm running a PII 400mhz, and It's basically a "dinosaur" as far as CPU's go, and with PIII's dropping in price faster than a porn star's panties, was wondering if anyone here has done it, and if so, was it a real pain in the ass, or a walk in the park? "Official sponsor of the Best Ass Contest" Graduate of the Rookie School for Newbies
adolescentmasturbator	posted on 04-01-2001 @ 7:54 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01	It shouldn't be too hard if you know to get your way around a case. Just be careful to not get shocked. I don't take precautions because my area has no static electricity but you may be in an area like that. E-Mail Me LIKE SCHOOL IN SUMMERTIME
RandomNY	posted on 04-01-2001 @ 10:35 PM
Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00	you can try buying a slocket adapter but I doubt the motherboard in the dell will support a PIII /you better off buying a new motherboard and CPu and take all the other sutff and build a new system. You can get a good ABit or ASUS motherboard for P3 from 85 bucks up to 150 depending on features. If you dont want to get the new mobo now you can propbably throw a PII 550 in that dell with no worries. The main problem will be if DELL alowed the BIOS on yrou mobo to accept a p3 and change of voltage that goes with it. P3 use less voltage than P2's. You might want tocheck DELL"s site and find out for sure maybe there is a BIOS update you can download. This message was edited by RandomNY on 4-1-01 @ 10:40 PM
hornygoatweed23 I've Got A Vagina With Teeth. G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Dragoon Battalion My friends call me Weed	posted on 04-02-2001 @ 1:15 AM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01	I was thinking the same thing RNY, I've heard about possibly having to use a Slocket adapter, not too crazy about that, sounds too much like a jimmy-rig fix, so I was thinking of getting the fastest PII I could instead. I have an older machine running on a Cyrix133 that I've been meaning to overhaul, just might get the mobo/PIII for that, and build it up. AM - I know my way around a case well enough, just never did a CPU upgrade - if you screw it up, youre either in for a world of trouble recovery wise, or there is no recovery. I called Dell on this, and of course, they weren't too helpful, and I scoped their site, found a few interesting links, thought i'd throw it out here just the same. Thanks (both of you) for the input - appreciate it :) "Official sponsor of the Best Ass Contest" Graduate of the Rookie School for Newbies
FoundryMusicJeff	posted on 04-02-2001 @ 10:25 AM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01	Hornygoatweed, this is my job, so give me an e-mail at sabanj666@aol.com. Do this sort of thing all the time. Some general guidelines and tips to follow when upgrading CPU's: 1) Go AMD. Their line of CPU's have improved dramatically in performance with the advent of the Athlon. Benchmark testing have placed the AMD at higher performance marks than their INTEL counterparts (except, of course, for the P4). 2) Always upgrade motherboard with processor. This is a rule I follow 75% of the time. Motherboard technologies are constantly improving, and since I only upgrade once a year, I make it a rule to keep with the trends. Newer motherboards support newer technology. For example, ATA/100 is relatively new and not found on most motherboards. USB, Firewire, RAID, and faster bus speeds (266 for AMD 1.2 GHZ), are also available on certain boards. 3) Never buy integrated motherboards. Motherboards with on-board video or sound are complete garbage and should be avoided at all costs. Yes, it saves room for more PCI cards, but it's generally not a good idea if you're intending to upgrade your video and sound cards in the future. 4) Stick with ASUS brand motherboards. They are the best. 5) Make sure you keep on top of any BIOS flash upgrades. These are released every so often to either correct a bug or improve performance. 6) Make sure your case power supply can support the motherboard and peripherals. If you have any doubt, buy a new case. They range from $40-$300. 7) Upgrade your RAM with your motherboard. You should do this with every upgrade. SRAM, DRAM, RDRAM, who can keep track. Make sure your motherboard supports the latest and greatest, and get the fastest possible. Memory is more important than CPU..to me anyway. Have at least 256. 8) Make sure your CPU purchase comes with a Heat Sink Fan. They usually do. Be careful as you install them. AMD's are especially fragile, as the chip directly touches the heat sink and thus vulnerable to damage if you install incorrectly. It is a good idea to ask the company to install and test the board before they ship it out. 9) Make sure the company you purchase your new board from has an EXCELLENT return policy. Beginners tend to screw up thier installations, frying boards or chips. 10) Good places to purchase from: - computerstop.com - tccomputers.com I develop hard to navigate websites.
hornygoatweed23 I've Got A Vagina With Teeth. G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Dragoon Battalion My friends call me Weed	posted on 04-02-2001 @ 12:52 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01	Jeff, I appreciate it - I'll drop you a line tonight when I get home. "Official sponsor of the Best Ass Contest" Graduate of the Rookie School for Newbies
RandomNY	posted on 04-02-2001 @ 1:49 PM
Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00	Horny the Slocket isn't bad a bad thing I had my P3 600 running at 900mhz stable on the ABIT one. You can control voltages on it and everything. It really isn't a jury-rig type of thing.
FoundryMusicJeff	posted on 04-02-2001 @ 2:11 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01	Let me add to that by saying: 1) Avoid Socket 1. 2) Avoid overclocking your CPU. It may be faster, but it's not worth it. I develop hard to navigate websites.
adolescentmasturbator	posted on 04-02-2001 @ 3:32 PM
O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01	Actually the Thunderbird at 1.2 GHZ or higher works with the DDR memory works better than a P4 and RDRAM. However that could change with a P4 with DDR and applications being written specifally to it. But AMD is coming soon with the an ever better version of their Athlon line. Personally I would go AMD all the way. They are cheaper and just as good as Pentiums. I just can't wait for the new line of AMD processors in dual-processor mobos. And yes I know the games don't take real advantage of it now but I am a multi-tasker so it would be real useful. E-Mail Me LIKE SCHOOL IN SUMMERTIME
Bartman	posted on 04-02-2001 @ 5:46 PM
Psychopath Registered: Dec. 00	I just upgraded in January stick with amd and avoid a-open like the black plague i got one of there boards not to smart of me...You will have to upgrade your motherboard amd is priced better than intel so it is a better deal Visit my webpage you can also email me E-Mail Me
RandomNY	posted on 04-02-2001 @ 8:47 PM
Psychopath Registered: Sep. 00	There is nothing wrong with overclocking. Does it lower the life expectency of your CPU sure. From what 20 years to 10? If you buy a 800 P3 it might be 8x100 fsb. Or it may be 800 but stabel at the 133 fsb or 6X133 so even Intel does it. You can get at least 25% faster performance with no problems on just about any chip you buy. I have been overclocking for years now with no problems. I offered the SLOCKET option to Horny if he didn't want to change his MOBO, although that would be the best thing for him to do in his case. I currently have my 800 T-bird running at 1000 8X125 with problems and I know I'll never have any problems with it. My CPU is running at 90 Degrees F under full load which is way below what AMD says it should run, because I have great cooling in my system. I do agree with you only about extreme overclocking like some guys do on the net using liguid Nitrogen and stuff like that.

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