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| Posted By | Discussion Topic: Intersting article on is Rock the next Hulk Hogan | ||||
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| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 08-28-2001 @ 12:02 PM |    | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00  | Killer Chronicles: The Rock, A Real American Hero? by Matt Tougas The Rock... Bad Craziness... But first, this short message. Some of you, though I'm sure not as many as I'd like, have probably noticed my absence of a couple weeks, and that some of my columns, including this one, lack a lot of serious story analysis. Which is odd because the whole purpose of "Killer Chronicles" is to chronicle and analyze wrestling angles. The reason? Simple, there really hasn't been any interesting angle's to analyze. WWF's in a bit of a holding pattern, which is all right. Just sit back and enjoy the RVD matches and Vince cares enough to insert bathroom breaks, also known as Undertaker matches. If you want the know the basic story for the next couple months, to me it looks like this. Rock vs. Booker T for a while. Rock will win, Booker will look stupid. Either Booker will dump Shane McMahon or vice versa. In ring 2, Austin vs. Angle. Despite many good college tries from Angle, he'll never get over on Austin, eventually SCSA will try to cripple Angle and Rock will make the save. Rock vs. Austin for the following 9 months. There, that saves me about 50 columns. And now, let's all smell what the Rock is cooking, and what he's cooking up is a new era of Hulkamania. A while ago one of my friends mentioned that the Rock is trying to be the Hulk. I didn't really see it until tonight, but it's true. Did you watch that Rhyno match? All the basic pacing and range of moves, so this brings up a couple of questions. 1) Is the Rock trying to be the Hulkster? Let's be honest, when was the last time you saw a three minute bearhug in the same city, much less in the ring of a WWF show? How about the two and a half arm drop consciousness check? Sure, it's been a mainstay of wrestling for years, but have you seen one recently on WWF? He's stuck in a bearhug for three minutes, but he gets a strange second wind, then BANG! He's all better again. Notice the range of moves? The Rock does 36 punches and six basic wrestling maneuvers (Let's all thank my friend, Shawn, for being angry enough to count them each week :) Hulkster: 36 punches, a Hulk-up, a Big Yellow Boot, then a Leg Drop. Rocky Miavia: 36 punches, an inexplicable second wind, a Rock Bottom, then the People's Elbow. Are there differences between the Hulk and the Rock? Sure. For instance, Hulk Hogan has always historically been the Great American Hero, always doing the right thing, always getting chummy with the interviewers. The Rock has a reputation for smacking anybody who gets in his way and is famous, even loved for his constant abuse of announcers and interviewers. Still, despite this I think the similarities are too great to ignore. Maybe I'm looking too hard, but seriously, I think it's true. The Rock is becoming the Hulk. This leads to the second question. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I'll be honest, no matter how much I love the skill of wrestling, and the intricacy of cleverly written, twisting and turning plots featuring characters of depth and texture, sometimes I just want to see a hero stomp the crap out of the bad guys. Sometimes I just want to see Superman or Captain America come down and pound on Evil. Sometimes I want to see a hero with no weaknesses save for his strong sense of right who you can depend on to always do the right thing. I miss that... The problem is, the Rock ain't that guy. The character of the Rock is that of a self-obsessed loudmouth with fashion sense and a god complex who's power comes from his boundless disdain for everything and everyone beneath him, and to the Rock that's everything and everyone. I'm not saying that it's a bad character, but it's not the same, thus when I see Rocky Miavia walk down the ring and face a skilled artisan like Rhyno, I weep. I really do, because I know what I'll see. I'll see a six minute hit-fest ending in two moves. Will I see any of the offensive maneuvers that make people like Jeff Hardy, Rhyno, Mike Awesome or Shane Helms famous? No. Why? Not because the Rock is "holding them down" or demanded a stomp match from Vince. It's because the Rock can't take those moves. He doesn't have the skill. At least not in my opinion. He's athletic, sure. He can take bumps, I've seen it. But I've never seen him take a hurricanrana. I've never seen him take any move when the victim does the hard work. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the Rock does know these moves, but I'm making a judgment call from what I see each and every week, and what I see is a Hulk Hogan match, from top to bottom. That's not a bad thing, but it doesn't do anything for me. I will give the Rock this. From all accounts and reports, the Rock is supposed to be a really nice, cool guy and I applaud him for that, because you can become a serious jerk really quick in this business. A jerk which, by all accounts and reports, Hogan is. Once again, I've never met Rock or Hogan, but I've read a lot about them from people who can be trusted. Hogan's done things and I don't care if he did them with a toothy smile on his face or not, I judge him a jerk. I get to. So, no. It's not a good thing. The world doesn't need another Hulk Hogan. The world doesn't need another Undertaker. The world doesn't need another Kevin Nash, or Ric Flair, or Mick Foley, or anybody who's already came before. The world needs creativity and that's something I used to think the Rock had. Now...I don't think so anymore. | ||||
| hornygoatweed I've Got A Vagina With Teeth. G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Dragoon Battalion My friends call me Weed | posted on 08-28-2001 @ 2:16 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | Another similarity between the two is that the Rock is also dipping his toe into the motion picture industry - much like Hogan did. So far, despite the fact that his only on-screen prescence was a bit-role (Mummy 2), it was a major release - not some direct-to video or kiddy movie. And as I reported in another thread, he is being considered for starring roles in other scripts (the Scorpion King, etc.). Its too early to tell, but I suspect he will have more success then Hogan on the silver screen.  MDLax84 has decided to earn his degree in Goatweed University. If anyone sees him cheating on exams, let me know ASAP! Email me here or AIM me at Organic999 to apply for a seat - I have one left, and they usually fill fast. | ||||
| TeenWeek what's a status? | posted on 08-28-2001 @ 3:05 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Oct. 00 | Wasn't Hogan's first part in Rocky 3. | ||||
| hornygoatweed I've Got A Vagina With Teeth. G.O.O.F.B.A.H.G.S. Dragoon Battalion My friends call me Weed | posted on 08-28-2001 @ 4:54 PM | | |||
| O&A Board Regular Registered: Jan. 01 | quote: Your'e right, I forgot about that. But I don't think he was approached to do anything else "big" after that, but I might be wrong. Either way, I think its safe to say his big-screen career wasn't exactly a success. MDLax84 has decided to earn his degree in Goatweed University. If anyone sees him cheating on exams, let me know ASAP! Email me here or AIM me at Organic999 to apply for a seat - I have one left, and they usually fill fast. | ||||
| Numb Nutts | posted on 08-28-2001 @ 7:15 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Aug. 01 | Here is a first hand story for you about the great american, Hulk Hogan. It had to be around 1986 or 1987. Me and my father were driving down the road and saw a car broken down. My father rolled down the window and asked if the guy needed help. "Fuck Off" the guy yelled out of fustration. That man was Hulk Hogan. A year or so later, my father recognized the man as The Hulkster. I know its unbelievable but its true, its true. I grew up down the road from Paul Roma (if anyone remembers him) He was nothing more than a jobber for WWF during the 80's and very early 90's. He got a small push against the Heart FOundation at one time (forget who hs partner was) He used to tell us how Hogan was the biggest prick in the WWF. I also remember him saying Hogan used to whine and cry everytime someone messed up and gave him the slightest bump. This message was edited by Numb Nutts on 8-28-01 @ 7:24 PM | ||||
| WookiePoolParty | posted on 08-28-2001 @ 7:40 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | The guy makes a lot of good points. I did think that the Rock did a good job selling the Gore last night, though. However, I have to disagree about the second wind, 2 and a half arm thing; which was only even mildly entertaining when Hogan did it. The WWF still does it all the time. Angle, Austin, XPac, Jericho, Big Show and Benoit at least have all used it relatively recently. Help those that need it. Join IBC.  WPP's Swiller Beer Pick of the Week: Magic Hat Number Nine | ||||
| HeyBEERMAN56 | posted on 08-29-2001 @ 12:21 PM | | |||
| Psychopath Registered: Mar. 01 | hey numb nuts man thats a cool ass story about the hulkster.i kinda figured he was a prick,considering what he did at bash at the beach 2000.anyway,i wouldnt want the rock becoming the next hogan.i wouldnt want him to have a bald spot,or wrestle at the age of 45 either.and i think his movies will be better than hogans(remember that horr movie mr.nanny).and yeah numb nutts,paul roma's partner was jim powers. YOUR DRUNK BROTHER,HeyBEERMAN 56. adopted by AUSTIN 8/26 | ||||
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