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TeenWeek
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posted on 10-23-2001 @ 7:09 AM      
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Last night Vince said Survivor Series, this year will mean what it is supposed to mean. He said there will be one match. Either the Alliance or WWF is done.

You have to figure it will be in the Survivor Series format, where it is an elimination match.


WWF vs the Alliance in an elimination match. I also would like it to be the old WCW wargames with 2 rings surrounded by a steel cage. Last man standing, their federation wins and the other is gone.

Also anyone think HHH will come back that night or about the NWO reformation with Flair, Steiner, Hall and Nash?

Wanted to get people's opinion's on this?







This message was edited by TeenWeek on 10-23-01 @ 8:06 AM
Sir Okonkwo
posted on 10-23-2001 @ 7:29 AM      
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I don't remember Vince saying there would only be one match at SS. Booking a 3 hour PPV with only one match would be retarded. There has to be an undercard. Even the Royal Rumble has an undercard...

With that said, a Wargames main event would be sweet. Either that or a Hell in a Cell which I touched on in a previous thread. But I would prefer Wargames...

Flair would be nice, Steiner would be acceptable I guess, but please NO Hall and Nash! Let their overrated corpses rot...




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TeenWeek
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posted on 10-23-2001 @ 7:42 AM      
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From a raw review:

Vince has had it with this Alliance crap and this Invasion crap. So what he's proposing is that this thing comes to a head, once and for all. What he's proposing is that at Survivor Series, for once, that name is truly what it is.

Surviving. What he's suggesting is that there's one match. In that one match, that match will determine which entity will finally survive. What he's proposing is, maybe it's the survival of the fittest. Winner take all at Survivor Series.

Sir Okonkwo
posted on 10-23-2001 @ 7:56 AM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
Still sounds retarded to me. One PPV, one match? It just seems like a clusterfuck waiting to happen. Even WWF writers can't be THAT moronic.




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posted on 10-23-2001 @ 9:16 AM      
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it sounds to me like vince is gonna get his top 4 or 5 guys, and shane and slut will pick their top 4 or 5 guys...put them in a survivor series match the way it is supposed to be, and winner take all. of course, down the road you can see it being for one show or the other, or maybe the saturday night show which is bombing big time. i can't see this ending yet, there will be like 20 guys out of work if this storyline ends. but there has to be more to the card than this one match, and making it like war games, the way war games was meant to be, when it was the horsemen vs. well, everyone else...

hhh will be around, but probably not ready to wrestle, which is bad cause he is what is needed right now...

EDIT*** oh yeah, as for flair and steiner, i think both of them have contracts until first quarter of next year...they would both give up pretty decent money to come work now...i would love to hear the music, watch the sparklies, and then see THE MAN walk down the aisle. He makes it halfway down the ramp, raises both arms and begins to speak. He talks of tradition, WCW tradition, and what it means. Then he introduces the men who will keep that tradition alive. Ric Flair becomes the much needed voice of the alliance and introduces Booker T, RVD, Rhyno, suprise member and WCW Champ Chris Jericho and a special returning superstar, the man who can do it all, he re-introduces to WWF TV, Scott Steiner. They walk to the ring, and enter the ring as the cage lowers onto them, and the battle for wrestling supremecy begins.




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This message was edited by skitchr4u on 10-23-01 @ 9:31 AM
Ferret
posted on 10-23-2001 @ 11:00 AM      
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quote:

it sounds to me like vince is gonna get his top 4 or 5 guys, and shane and slut will pick their top 4 or 5 guys...put them in a survivor series match the way it is supposed to be, and winner take all.



Oh, so you mean EXACTLY like the match they had at Invasion 4 MONTHS AGO that was supposed to settle this whole thing.



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posted on 10-23-2001 @ 11:38 AM      
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sort of yeah ferret...except now we will have the real TOP 4 or 5 guys, and not just 2 of each companies best and 3 other pieces of crap. sure the dudleys and kane and taker are ok, but lets be real, would you put the world title on them?? didn't think so.




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TeenWeek
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posted on 10-23-2001 @ 11:54 AM      
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Let's just say it is 5 on 5 elimination. whom would you choose for each side. And no one turns sides between than and now.

Mine would be:
WWF- Rock, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Undertaker, mystery partner with Vince McMahon in their corner
vs

Alliance- Steve Austin, RVD, Booker T, DDP, and a mystery partner with Shane in their corner.

It has to be Wargames.

The mystery partner for the WWF turns out to be HHH and the mystery partner for the Alliance is Scott Steiner.

King f-tard
posted on 10-23-2001 @ 12:27 PM      
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I would love to see that happen. My five would as follows.

WWF-Angle, Taker, Rock, Jericho and Big Show
WCW-Austin, Booker T, RVD, DDP and Rhyno

Halfway during the match, the nwo music plays, and out come the outsiders, and who they help will determine whose side they are on, tell me that wouldnt be great to see, at least a major mark out moment.






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JackDan1974
posted on 10-23-2001 @ 1:42 PM      
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quote:

WWF-Angle, Taker, Rock, Jericho and Big Show



The Big Job? no way all he is a 500lb jobber.

I agree with your Alliance picks King, but WWF I would have

HHH, Y2J, Kurt Angle, Rock, and Finally I hate to put him in this event, but I see little choice the UneverJobber.





TeenWeek
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posted on 10-23-2001 @ 1:44 PM      
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Whatever this event is, the internet is talking about it? The next question is what are the stakes. We know the WWF won't fold. We know WCW will not get Raw or Smackdown. If WWF wins, what happens to all the guys who defected to the Alliance. Can anyone actually see Stone Cold or Rob Van Dam not being on Raw and Smackdown and limited to the WCW's B show. I don't think so.

I think they should bit the bullet and just merge. Even though there is a lot of talent get rid of all the talent that is not used at all or very little used. This alliance crap sucks and Vince knows that.

He came back in a huge way yesterday. What about the WWF winning all the titles last night except Van Dam. Stephanie and Shane just watched and sulked in their chairs and could not believe everybody lost their titles. They have to come back in a big way against their father because the WWF kicked the crap out of the Alliance last night.

I definitely say the wwf took a step forward yesterday and has some very compelling storylines coming.

Sgt. Squeegie
posted on 10-23-2001 @ 2:01 PM      
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I hate to bring this forward but someone has got to say it:

What if the WWF was going to fold anyway? The court order concerning the World Wild Life fund says they have to change their initials anyway unless they win their appeal. Maybe Vince sees this as a way to retire as well. They have a big name to fall back on....WCW. I think that this is a cheap way of not having to change all the initials. Just get rid of them.




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posted on 10-23-2001 @ 2:10 PM      
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i never thought of it that way, but its a possibility


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posted on 10-23-2001 @ 2:40 PM      
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I see this being a rematch of Invasion.

WWF-Angle, Undertaker, The Rock, Y2J and Big Show or Kane
WCW/ECW-Austin, Booker T, RVD, DDP and Rhyno

Vince and Shane will try to help.
Only difference this time RVD will help the WWF win.

Before this I can see a couple of title matches to get all the title belts in the WWF camp. Meaning the WCW title will stay between The Rock and Y2J. Once that happens, the Brawl will end it all.

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JackDan1974
posted on 10-23-2001 @ 4:29 PM      
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quote:

What if the WWF was going to fold anyway? The court order concerning the World Wild Life fund says they have to change their initials anyway unless they win their appeal. Maybe Vince sees this as a way to retire as well. They have a big name to fall back on....WCW. I think that this is a cheap way of not having to change all the initials. Just get rid of them.



That actualy makes sense





Vapour
posted on 10-23-2001 @ 5:53 PM      
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How better to settle this than to have one match settle it all. One all important match in which the winner takes all.



If WCW wins the Shane wins.

If The WWF wins Vince Wins





So vince gets the most important WWF player and Shane does the same for WCW (Still following me?)

OK

The deciding match will be between>>>>












Yes VINCE vs SHANE!

Who else?
The two owners.
or to make it more fun,
Vince and Linda Vs Shane and Boobsy(stephanie)





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Precious Fatman
posted on 10-23-2001 @ 7:01 PM      
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Vince vs. Shane???

I never thought about that what-so-ever. I mean a fight between owners would be extremely interesting. Remember Vince did say that he was in the best shape of his life. But do you honestly think that the superstars won't interfer, especially on Shane's side. A la Booker T. Who knows what the WWF writers have up their selves??

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posted on 10-23-2001 @ 8:24 PM      
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my teams would be:

WWF: Angle, Kane, Jericho, Undertaker, & The Rock
ECWC: SCSA, RVD (This is where he defects to the WWF and joins the full-time roster), Booker T, DDP, Test

This one will probably be exactly like Invasion except this time RVD or Austin would be defecting to the WWF and Austin would turn face again this way. HHH could get involved, thank god this "Invasion Crap" as vince would say is coming to an end




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TheGameHHH
posted on 10-24-2001 @ 2:09 AM      
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I would have to go with:

WWF: Angle, Jericho, Rock, Undertaker, & Vince
WCW/ECW: Austin, Booker T, DDP, RVD, & Shane

What you see at the end is WWF winning. How do you ask, well thats simple. Jericho defects first to WCW, and just when things look too good for WCW, RVD defects, and helps the WWF to victory.

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Sir Okonkwo
posted on 10-24-2001 @ 2:37 AM      
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Eh, I'll play...


Team WWF: Angle, Rocky, Jericho, Foley, Tajiri

Team Alliance: Austin, Regal, RVD, Booker T, Rhyno

Just keep McMahons out of the ring, and everything should be ok.




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TeenWeek
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posted on 10-24-2001 @ 8:28 AM      
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• Ever since Paul Heyman, Stephanie McMahon, and Shane McMahon stunned Vince McMahon by forming an Alliance against the World Wrestling Federation, there have been many rumors and reports indicating that a title unification match will occur in the near future.

Recent reports indicate that the main event match for Survivor Series '2001 will indeed be the WWF taking on the Alliance in which the losing side will have the disappear from professional wrestling.

Various insiders have stated that following this Pay-Per-View, both parties will slowly begin to part away from each other and eventually run their own organization. Easier put, both parties (WWF/WCW) will be running their independent house shows, events, Pay-Per-Views, etc.

The WWF originally hoped to start on this angle at WWF: Unforgiven where Steve Austin would lose the title resulting in the Alliance turning on him. This didn’t happen due to time restrictions and feeling that it was best if they held off on this angle for the future.

As for Survivor Series, the WWF's originally plan was to have "Stone Cold" Steve Austin defend his title against Alliance's Rob Van Dam where the winner would walk away to their organization with the world title. In this match, the WWF hoped to include Triple H's ring-return where he'd interfere and allow Rob Van Dam to walk away with the title. Also, another match planned was for Chris Jericho to face The Rock for the World Championship Title. However, as recent reports stated, this won't be happening. The match will be the Alliance vs. WWF in which the best side at the Pay-Per-View will walk away with the title(s).

If you didn't get to check out this year’s poster, the WWF has released the official Survivor Series poster which has Lita and Tori featured standing back to back. To view this poster, head on over to WWF.com.

Look for the WWF to build up this Pay-Per-View tremendously in upcoming weeks where everything becomes more clear and understandable on which wrestler will turn/stay with either companies for the long-run.

Without a doubt, this Pay-Per-View will mark the turning point of the WWF/Alliance angle and put an end to the Invasion angle.




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posted on 10-24-2001 @ 5:40 PM      
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First off, to go way back in the thread, yes, Vince did say "one" match, but, hello, I think there will be more than that match at Survivor Series. How the hell could you think he meant it would be the only match at SS when he said it?

Now, this does lead to a problem. The undercard will REALLY not mean shit if this happens. I mean, who cares about a WWF v. Alliance match in the undercard if one of the organizations is gone in three hours anyway, leading to one of the participants, in theory, being unemployed and so there wouldn't be any follow up. Intra-promotion matches, like, say a rematch between Rock-Jericho would make even less sense because what if the WWF loses the match? Then that match means nothing and WCW would likely "strip" the winner anyway (keep in mind, I'm saying this from a strictly storyline standpoint and what would make sense). So, no matter what, all other matches would be meaningless.

That's why I say they should go back in time to, I believe, 1990 or 1991 and do the Ultimate Survivor's Match as the main event to decide which organization stays.

For those who don't know, the rules of this are that there will be all Survivor Series elimination matches throughout the card and the members whose teams survive the matches and aren't eliminated (even if their team wins, if they are eliminated during the match, they are out) face each other in a final Survivor Series match at the end of the night to determine the Ultimate Survivors. So, all the Alliance members that survived face all the WWF guys who survived in the "Winner Take All Match". You can even end up with like a 10 v. 7 guys match or something!

This way, the entire undercard IS important and you get that feeling of importance on every match, since it has bearing on the main event. It didn't work the first time only because it made no sense to do it, but this would be a perfect opportunity. And hell, with 345,234 guys on the roster, I think the roster is just DYING to have nothing but 4 on 4 matches on PPV so everyone can get in anyway!

I think it's a good idea, which is exactly why it won't happen.

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posted on 10-24-2001 @ 6:05 PM      
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quote:

That's why I say they should go back in time to, I believe, 1990 or 1991 and do the Ultimate Survivor's Match as the main event to decide which organization stays.



Now that is the best idea i have read in this thread so far. That would make the whole event seem very special, not just the last match.

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posted on 10-24-2001 @ 6:22 PM      
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quote:

I think it's a good idea, which is exactly why it won't happen



Especailly with who they have booking right now... There is just so much talent, and so many posbilities but due to this stuipid alliance story line they have been having problems deveolping anything.





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posted on 10-24-2001 @ 8:24 PM      
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i just want so see everything back to normal, running two different shows would be good, i would follow both, and then they should just keep all the ECW stars in the WWF, it would be way better, i think austin and RVD will turn on EWCW in the match at survivor series and help WWF win, Austin and RVD return and WCW gets a seperate show




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