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Sir Okonkwo
posted on 12-13-2001 @ 4:32 AM      
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Looks to me like someone couldn't handle being the new guy. Poor Billy Silverman, maybe there's a knitting class you can take...
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posted on 12-13-2001 @ 8:23 AM      
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What a big pussy. Wow. he actually had to carry people's bags on the plane. You have a bunch of guys going from city to city constantly on the road, plane and hotels, of course you are going to have hazing and other stuff to the new guys. Charles Robinson took it like a man and earned respect from the other guys.

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Chris Jericho was involved a little bit. The best thing that Chris Jericho could do for himself is get Ralphus back. If they're talking about being a star and sitting in first class, I don't believe Jericho belongs in that league...



Hey Billy. I guess he does belong in that league because he is the first undisputed champion in the history of the business, even though it is fake, that's a pretty big honor. Something Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, Savage, Rock, Stone Cold, Bret Hart never did.

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posted on 12-13-2001 @ 10:21 AM      
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:( :( :(

"I had to carry bags wagh wagh wagh"





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posted on 12-13-2001 @ 10:24 AM      
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He sounds like the whiniest pussy around! Your'e the new guy in camp, not to mention your'e from the WCW, and you don't think that hazing should be put up with? I'm sure he made his feelings more apparent to people than he would like us to believe in this interview - he probably mouthed off to a few of the wrong people, and the guys heard about it and decided to make it a little tougher for him. I always find it funny when someone leaves the WWF, they never have anything good to say and it always a story to the tune of "I was persecuted" or "I was singled out", etc. Like Breuer says..."Walk it off Dick!", we don't need your pussy ass here.


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posted on 12-13-2001 @ 5:42 PM      
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holy crap, what a tool this guy is. how much of a pussy can you be to complain about carrying bags.


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posted on 12-13-2001 @ 5:50 PM      
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Carry bags and being forced to serve liqour is one thing, but if you complain of being bound and gaged. That's another thing. Try to read the whole article before making any judgedment.

I know if I were in that situation I wouldn't take that being bound and gaged at any cost.



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posted on 12-13-2001 @ 5:58 PM      
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i just scanned the article, i kinda just went by other people comments.
::EDIT:: i just re-read the article. this guy really is a pussy. it wasnt him who got bound and gagged, it was charles robinson. this guy basically just had to carry liquor.


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JackDan1974
posted on 12-13-2001 @ 6:22 PM      
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On another occasion I saw Charles Robinson, who was with WCW, stripped half naked and taped and bound up and brought out in a production cart and into the middle of everything that goes on in the hub of TV and everyone laughing about it and thinking it was real funny



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Try to read the whole article before making any judgedment.



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posted on 12-13-2001 @ 9:31 PM      
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Who cares? I only know the names of two refs anyway (Earl Hevner or Hebner or whatever & Teddy Long) There will always be replacements for this tool.



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posted on 12-13-2001 @ 9:36 PM      
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Who cares? I only know the names of two refs anyway (Earl Hevner or Hebner or whatever & Teddy Long)

Theres also Mike Chiota (I think thats how you spell it).


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posted on 12-13-2001 @ 9:44 PM      
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Maybe you should take your own advise



Well I did come to my own conclusion after reading this. Hazing violates personal rights. It isn't a "rite of passage", it is a plain violation of another person be it physically, mentally or both. I should note that numerous High School all over the country have been sued for letting this go on in all types of sports. Just reccently a member of a football team has been sodomized as a part of a team ritual.

If you take that abuse, I don't think you'd call someone a "pussyboy" especially if the kid has to friggin move away from the school district.

Now I know WWF refrees are grown people, but at their level and especailly for the pay lower (i can bet)than the wrestlers they "officiate" they shouldn't have to take that shit. Holding bags and having a pie in your face maybe be OK, but harrassment of any type is unacceptable in any profession.

For those who fail to read. (it it has been apparent with my replies) I'm against hazing and it violates basic human rights no matter how much "tradition" is with it.



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posted on 12-13-2001 @ 10:22 PM      
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Who cares? I only know the names of two refs anyway (Earl Hevner or Hebner or whatever & Teddy Long) There will always be replacements for this tool.

Ok, uh...Earl Hebner, Teddy Long, Timmy White, Jimmy Korderas, Mike Chiota, Chad Patton, Mike Sparks, Jack Doan, Nick Patrick, and last, but not least, Charles Robinson.

All out of memory. BEEYATCH!!!

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posted on 12-13-2001 @ 10:44 PM      
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I agree, Lent. The bag-carrying and the "unwritten rule" about not flying in first class is one thing (and is really a silly thing to complain about), but the hazing thing is another. There is a fine line between teasing and ribbing, and physically, mentally, and emotionally abusing someone. Call me crazy, but attacking a guy in the showers, hogtying him, covering him in baby oil, and threatening him with rape until he breaks down is in no way, shape, or form "just a joke." It's just fucking sick.

(And before anyone says anything, no, I'm not referring to the Charles Robinson incident, but rather a similar incident that reportedlyt took place about three years ago, the details of which have resurfaced since Silverman's accusations)




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Sir Okonkwo
posted on 12-13-2001 @ 11:05 PM      
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Lent, I think it's ridiculous to compare a High School football player getting sodomized, to an adult carrying around bags of liquor. Sure, some forms of hazing can be cruel and should not be allowed, but from what was said in the interview, nothing Billy Silverman went through crosses the line. He got heat with guys in the company who have been there for years for upgrading to first class, so they gave him some shit for it. Boo hoo. He should have realized something was wrong when he was up front in first class, while Kurt Angle's in the back. Anyway, just to show what a kook Silverman is, let's look at a few of his quotes...
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I saw Charles Robinson, who was with WCW, stripped half naked and taped and bound up and brought out in a production cart and into the middle of everything that goes on in the hub of TV and everyone laughing about it and thinking it was real funny.

On the surface, this sounds pretty bad. But we have no idea about the context in which it happened. Did Charles Robinson complain? Did Charles Robinson, maybe, allow it to happen? Afterwards, did Bradshaw give him a hug, buy him a beer, and welcome him into the team? We don't know, but Charles Robinson still has a job and hasn't said a word publicly about it...
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I was on a plane being verbally abused and threatened with physical violence by Bradshaw.

Ok, Billy, but when the interviewer asked about the threats, you go on to say
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You weren't on the plane. So consequently it was just a paternity hazing type of thing that went on. That's really the only way to describe it. There was definitely hints of physical violence there

Someone's backtracking here. He first says they made threats, then it became hints. Well, which is it?
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Q: Who else was part of the hazing besides Bradshaw?

A: Bradshaw the instigator of it. Teddy Long was involved. Teddy Long's not a good guy, I'll tell you that right now. Chris Jericho was involved a little bit. The best thing that Chris Jericho could do for himself is get Ralphus back. If they're talking about being a star and sitting in first class, I don't believe Jericho belongs in that league...

Sounds like a guy with a severe chip on his shoulder. He kind of dodges the question, and goes on to bash Jericho's star power, after praising Buff fuckin' Bagwell earlier in the interview. Sure...

Basically, I don't doubt that some sort of hazing goes on. Come on, the WWF was doing well early this year, and then they bring in a bunch of guys from a failed company with a notoriously chaotic locker room environment. What did anyone expect, the WCW guys to be welcomed backstage with open arms? I think they needed to keep these guys in line from the beginning, and without going to management about every little thing, some form of hazing is necessary. Bottom line, nobody's forcing anybody to work for the WWF. Besides, if you read Dynamite Kid's book, the backstage shit he talks about going on in the 80's is MUCH worse than anything Silverman alleges.

EDIT - Response to Peach's comments

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Call me crazy, but attacking a guy in the showers, hogtying him, covering him in baby oil, and threatening him with rape until he breaks down is in no way, shape, or form "just a joke." It's just fucking sick.

Ok crazy ;), but consider the source of this story. It was reported by Bob Ryder, the same guy who said that Bret Hart was going to lead the WCW Invasion. He quotes Anonmyous Wrestler A talking about a situation involving Anonymous Wrestler B. For all we know, he made it up. Or, he did talk to a wrestler with a grudge against the WWF, and got some false or embelleshed information. Or, maybe it really did happen. All we have to go by on this is heresay and the words of a "journalist" with little to no credibility.

This message was edited by Sir Okonkwo on 12-13-01 @ 11:18 PM
JackDan1974
posted on 12-14-2001 @ 10:30 AM      
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For those who fail to read. (it it has been apparent with my replies) I'm against hazing and it violates basic human rights no matter how much "tradition" is with it.




Have you ever been a part of an organization that has traditions? These traditions form a bond between members that cannot explained unless you have been through it. Unfortunately their are individual who take it to far sometimes, and when they do other members should recognize that and step in, but to be against all traditions is just wrong.





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posted on 12-15-2001 @ 5:36 PM      
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Pretending to rape a guy is taking things to the extreme, however I think its inevitable that some hazing was going to go on. Dont believe for a second that shit like this hasnt gone for years, including the old WCW.

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