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diceisgod
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posted on 01-17-2002 @ 4:18 PM      
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Can you DIG it, sucka!?


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Raven
Portugal
posted on 01-17-2002 @ 5:03 PM      
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Registered: May. 01
OAgirl -- check out Deathclock.com --- I would say your time is almost up. and what is with all the ass fuck'n remarks by you? are you greek or something? or just need to be gang raped in the ass by all the members? (the choice is yours NEWBIE TWAT!!)


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Sgt. Squeegie
posted on 01-17-2002 @ 7:15 PM      
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Registered: Nov. 00
Raven its nice to see you back on the wrestling forum.



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Sir Okonkwo
posted on 01-17-2002 @ 8:18 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
I think Mrs. Moosen got it right when she said:
quote:

I just find Booker T's signature moves to be boring. Spinaroonie? Stereotype anyone? Puhleeeeeze! Scissor Kick? That's at least original, but it's not a move that required much imagination to invent. Oh, and that Five Fingers to the Face thing after he counts... well, it just makes him look like an idiot to me. Hey, it's only my opinion but I think they need to write him as a man and not as a cariacture of one. Maybe if they made him a "smoothe bad guy" instead of a buffoon, I would find him entertaining.
When Booker was in WCW, they booked to his strengths, for the most part. The "spinaroonie" was just something he did after the scissor kick (like other wrestlers would do a tip-up), and was never really focused on until Mark Madden started announcing, and even then, not in the ridiculous way the WWF focuses on it. He's much better in the role of a babyface, and taking the focus off the meanlingless little things he does and just letting him be himself, would do wonders for him. He's a good enough wrestler in the ring, hopefully one day, they give him a chance to show that once again. But I wouldn't hold my breath...

Also, anyone else notice he rarely (if ever) does the missile dropkick and Harlem hangover any more? I guess it's not the "WWF way". Yep, give him a finisher that's a ripoff of one of your major stars. Way to get over new talent (and before someone chimes in, yes I know he did the bookend towards the end of his WCW run, but that was the bookers there giving him a Rock-ripoff character -- WWF writers just continued with it).

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posted on 01-17-2002 @ 8:27 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
I agree.... in WCW, the Spinaroonie was a little Mark Madden piece of announcing horse shit. In the WWF, it somehow becomes a "powerful move". How do they get away with bullshit like this?

They took a guy with a respectable career, and a chance of moving forward, and made him into a big fucking joke.

Booker's black. Is Russo booking again?

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USA
posted on 01-17-2002 @ 9:02 PM      
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Registered: Jan. 01
quote:

OAgirl25 wrote:
He should know that sometimes different conversations spark between board members.

God, I couldn't wait to get home to respond to this twat.
Yes, I know conversations spark between board members, but when it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic it should be common sense and courtesy to take your conversation elsewhere. There are chat threads and chat rooms to do this in. Also, in case you haven't heard the news, there is this new thing out called AIM that's all the rage. Make sure you are sitting when you read this because it will astound you. Get this, it allows you to actually talk to someone online in real time. Can you believe it? This way you don't have to annoy people with your inane babble.
quote:

Doesn't he know anything about message boards?

As a matter of fact I do mindless one. You come on to post something (hopefully of interest), respond to others' posts, and discuss within them. You don't go off on a fucking tangent that has nothing to do with the original topic just for the sake of having a conversation with someone. Use the above mentioned mediums for that moron.
quote:

He seems like a newbie to me.

Do you truly get dumber and dumber by the minute?
Flock of Moosen: Joined Jan. 13, 2001, 1028 posts.
OAgirl25: Joined Jan. 16, 2002, 32 posts.

Who's the newbie?

Don't expect me to respond to anything else you choose to defile this thread with. Unlike you, I'm not here for the attention.



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OAgirl25
posted on 01-17-2002 @ 10:26 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
quote:

why the hell do I know so much about someone with only 32 post?


Hey HOSPITALIANO, it's because u are probably obssesed with me, u probably think about me all the time, u probably haven;t stopped thinking about me since the moment u read my first post. U probably want me to ass-fuck u with a 45" strap-on. U deny it, but guess what? they all say that. The problem with many people (like u) is that they won't admit they have a problem.
I hope that one day u HOSPITALIANO, can reinncorporate into society.
:):):)

OAgirl25
posted on 01-17-2002 @ 10:31 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
Hey Raven, no, I am not greek, I was born here in the usa, but my great grandma was greek.
And look Flock of Moosen, I would talk to people over AIM, but most of those things are blocked at the office where i work at, but this plae and a few others for some reason aren't. So this is the only place where i can talk with fellow members. And i did say that booker was alright.
:):):)

Cluster F
posted on 01-17-2002 @ 11:44 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
OAgirl is a TOOL.

And Booker T has some of the best facial expressions in the business.

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This message was edited by Cluster F on 1-17-02 @ 11:53 PM
Se7en
posted on 01-18-2002 @ 11:36 AM      
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Registered: Oct. 01
In WCW, Booker was great. He's talented in the ring, he has charisma, and he's not too bad on the stick.

Of course, this is the WWF, where stereotypes reign and in-ring product isn't as much a concern as are endless stupid backstage skits and dumb catchphrases. So they take Booker, who's a fine worker, and one of the best guys WCW had in the end, and they make him a joke.

But I guess that's just SPORTZ ENTERTAINMENT~!



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HOSPITALIANO
posted on 01-18-2002 @ 11:50 AM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
Three days on the board and she's already insuliing me at a mod level.

But I hope we all don't lose sight of what's really going on here. The world's worst case of penis envy ever!!! So. OAgirl, how long have you wanted to get rid of that nasty little hatchet wound of a pussy and get yourself a magnificent penis so you could "assfuck" your father for all those nights he made you his "special little girl"?

Oh, yeah, and Booker T will come back into his own.




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RonRon5477
posted on 01-18-2002 @ 1:05 PM      
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Registered: Apr. 01
OAgirl, which one are you?
OAgirl


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posted on 01-18-2002 @ 2:09 PM      
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Registered: Jun. 01
Ronron, funny.

Can you dig it, SUCKA?! Booker T is pretty fun to watch, I like his antics. Especially that church skit with Austin was ffing hillarious.

And furthermore, OAGirl25, I'll say it for the tenth time. You are a fucking cum depository. Shut you fucking yap, you sound like Foghorn Leghorn, shut up cunt! Just keep fillating your husband until he pays the bills.

God I love Norton.



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Mrs. Moosen
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Ha! Think again.
USA
posted on 01-18-2002 @ 4:36 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: May. 01
Wow! I am glad that for the most part, my impression of Booker isn't too far off base. I was never into WCW and I never saw what he was there. My only experience of watching him comes from the WWF, where he's portrayed in a most unflattering light. Again, thanks for the input guys.

NOW... OAgirl25...

quote:

Hey Mrs. Moosen, why did u name yourself like that? Is it because of Flock of Moosen?
Are u obssesed with him? Do u do searchs of his posts every day? Do u want him to ass-fuck u for each time that u had an ice cream?
And what are u doing with those 2 ice creams in your pic anyways? I hope u are not confusing them with ass-fucking dildos.
U are a disrubed yung lady Mrs. Moosen, u should see a psycologist.
Oh little mindless one, I am going to respond to you against my better judgment not to waste the time and expend the energy.

  1. Flock of Moosen is my husband
  2. My screen name comes from the fact that I was introduced to the board as his wife and people started calling me Mrs. Moosen. The name stuck so I decided to go with it.
  3. The items in my sig pic are snowcones, and if you knew where the term "Flock of Moosen" came from, then you would also know why there are snowcones in my pic. See, there's this comedian... Bah! Why am I trying to explain this?! If you want to know, ask someone who's willing to explain it to you. I'm not. You aren't worth that much time, and I don't care if you understand or not.
  4. I think that you should think before you post. Tis better to be quiet and let the world think you're a fool than to open your mouth and prove them correct.

quote:

The thing is that i'm not in college yet...
Really? What a shock!!!
quote:

...my hubby has expensive tastes so I have to work alot
Maybe expensive, but apparently not discriminating taste.
quote:

And look Flock of Moosen, I would talk to people over AIM, but most of those things are blocked at the office where i work at, but this plae and a few others for some reason aren't. So this is the only place where i can talk with fellow members. And i did say that booker was alright
Blah Blah Blah! Care?
quote:

I hope Idoj is pleased? Fear the beast.

Idoj is very pleased... :D MMMMWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! :eek:

Stop starin' at my snowcones

JackDan1974
posted on 01-18-2002 @ 5:03 PM      
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Registered: Jul. 01
Booker has defintley changed from his days in WCW I for one like the way WWF has changed him.

OAgirl25 what the fuck is your deal are trying to piss people off, and defile threads for your own amusment. You like ass fucking people, what is up with that? Let me guess didn't have a daddy growing up so that explain all the need for male attention. The whole ass fucking thing is proably becasue you where abused or somthing so know you feel like assfucking give you some sense of power. I think you should go to college as a research subject for the pych dept.





Se7en
posted on 01-18-2002 @ 5:14 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Oct. 01
The name for the "Spinaroonie" was created by Mark Madden, and the WWF keeps using the name for the move as a rib on Madden, since many (such as Jim Ross) in the fed think Madden is an ass.

It's nothing new what the WWF is doing / has done to their non-white performers. The WWF is historically prejudicial and stereotypical. Best example: Anyone remember Saba Simba?

But the main point of this post is to point out the difference between professional wrestling and sportz entertainment. Or, basically, how WCW's ring product (outside of the Russo influence) differs from the sportz entertainment of the WWF.

This was an essay written to Scott Keith by a man named Andrew Zadarnowski, and I personally find it brilliant. It describes perfectly EXACTLY what I find wrong with the WWF, and why people like me bitch about the 3 minute spotfests that infest WWF programming.

quote:

“First let's dissect the contents of a match, be it Sports Entertainment or Wrestling. A match can be broken down into the following three categories: Sequences, Transitions, and Crowd Interaction. A Sequence involves one wrestler with the upper hand controlling the other wrestler resulting in a move. Sequences range from a Body Slam to a Top Rope Maneuver and everything in between. Finishing moves are part of this category. Transitions result in the second wrestler countering a Sequence and following with his own Sequence. Typical Transitions include Rope Reversal, and Go Behind. The last
category, Crowd Interaction, is essentially taking the time to acknowledge the crowd. I made this a separate category, and I'll explain why when I compare Sports Entertainment to Wrestling.

A great Wrestler will have an inexhaustible set of Sequences that he can pull off given a moments notice (i.e. Power Slam, Backbreaker, countless Suplexes, Clothesline). When choosing a Sequence, the wrestler has to take the following into account: impact of the move and what will it lead into. A Wrestler can't stand there after he's completed a Sequence, trying to figure out what he's doing next. He needs to segue from Sequence to Sequence as smoothly as possible and it needs to follow a certain strategy. For example Flair would attack the leg, and then slap on the Figure-Four. A great wrestler looks even better if he can execute Transitions smoothly to any Sequence given the signal. Of course there is the whole Transition to a Transition, but I don't have all day. The Crowd Interaction is minimal, since a Wrestling Crowd, will be cheering the Sequences and Transitions, not what the guy has to say. The reason Ric Flair was so successful is because he was able to captivate the Wrestling Crowd that the NWA/WCW had raised with smooth Wrestling. He also had a catch: WHOOO! An unmistakable call to the fans that Flair inserted in between Sequences.

A great Sports Entertainer will have a limited set of sequences, but each one is carefully crafted to get a pop from the crowd. For example the Rock has the following sequences: Belly-to-belly, People's Elbow, Spinebuster, Rock Bottom, Spit Punch, etc... Each one has a set-up that the crowd recognizes, and cheers for. In Sports Entertainment Sequences also include the entrance of the Sports Entertainer. Even the Transitions are crafted to get a pop, citing the Rock as an example yet again: Reversal DDT, Reversal in the corner Chops, etc... But the most important aspect of Sports Entertainment is the crowd interaction. A successful Sports Entertainer will control the crowd and condition them to follow catchphrases. The interview and skits are key because that's when the Sports Entertainer's Personality is developed. Each Sports Entertainer is carefully fabricated to appeal to a certain demographic (Edge for the Goths, Austin for the southern American rednecks, etc...). If a Sports Entertainer doesn't attract a target demographic he will not attain the main event level. In this case I'll use Chris Benoit as an example. By far one of the best Wrestlers today. But he has minimal Sports Entertainment Crowd approval and put him in the ring with The Rock and we'll see who the Sports Entertainment Crowd cheers.

Wrestling is a very specific art form and very hard to master. It requires years of experience and very few Wrestlers become Great Wrestlers. Ric Flair, Ricky Steamboat, and Chris Benoit to name a few off of the top of my head. Sports Entertainment is also a very specific art form, but a completely different beast. The main difficulty is to get your character over, not your in-ring skill. Undertaker and Hulk Hogan are two such examples.

Some are capable of amalgamating both concepts, but that is a rare example. Kurt Angle is a perfect example. So is William Regal. The main difference is that William Regal is a Wrestler trying to be a Sports Entertainer, and Kurt Angle is a Sports Entertainer whose gimmick is a Wrestler. Hence Kurt Angle is the most successful of the two in the WWF.

The WWF seems intent on keeping the product strictly Sports Entertainment because that's what they want to focus on. Trying to focus on both leads to an imbalance in the goals of the show. Did you notice that twice a Wrestler got over in the WWF on their own, and was quickly brought down because that's not the WWF style? I'm talking about Tajiri and Rob Van Dam. These two wrestlers were completely over with the crowd without saying a word. Tajiri's stiff kicks and RVD's reckless offence introduced something new to the crowd, and the WWF was afraid they wouldn't be able to control it.
Tajiri was reduced to a jobber, and RVD was shot down the card and is currently developing Sports Entertainment Sequences (Rolling Thunder, Side kick of the top rope, Five Star Frogsplash), Sports Entertainment Transitions (Van Daminator, grab the leg and step-over kick), and most importantly Sports Entertainment Crowd Interaction (The Whole Dam Show, "Everything is cool when you're R...V...D.". He will be huge one day.

Internet Columnists have been ripping into the WWF for a long time now because the length of matches is down, there is minimal psychology, and Benoit gets no respect. All these Columnists are craving Wrestling. What they fail to realize is that although the WWF has the necessary talent to put on the greatest Wrestling matches of all time, they never will. They cannot control Wrestling, therefore they will never take the risk of losing control of who the crowd cheers. That's what brought down WCW, but that's for another day.

I personally prefer Wrestling (A Flair vs. Steamboat match was the inspiration for this loooong letter), but I also understand that the WWF does not present a Wrestling show. They present Sports Entertainment. That is why I was able to sit back and enjoy last night's RAW. It was Sports Entertainment in all its glory. For now, the Wrestling fan who refuses to accept Sports Entertainment has to settle for watching old tapes or follow
International Wrestling to get his fix. He will not get what he's looking for in the WWF.





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Sir Okonkwo
posted on 01-18-2002 @ 6:15 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jun. 01
First of all, welcome Se7en to OA.com! You will be hated here soon enough ;).

Nice post there, but one point I'd like to touch on:
quote:

Did you notice that twice a Wrestler got over in the WWF on their own, and was quickly brought down because that's not the WWF style? I'm talking about Tajiri and Rob Van Dam. These two wrestlers were completely over with the crowd without saying a word. Tajiri's stiff kicks and RVD's reckless offence introduced something new to the crowd, and the WWF was afraid they wouldn't be able to control it.
In Tajiri's case, I can agree, but in the case of RVD, he was always a sports entertainer. In ECW, he did everything the typical sports entertainer does well (the "points to self" crowd interaction, a few flashy moves to get a pop, an elaborate ring enterance), while his actual wrestling was always poor, with little to no focus on psychology and weak transitions. I know these weren't your words anyway, just felt the need to point that out.

Tying this into the topic at hand, Booker T is a good wrestler but an average or so sports entertainer. The fact that the character and SE spots he's been given are pretty lame doesn't help either.

And, to add a little feul to the wrestling vs. sports entertainment fire, here's a little piece written by the brilliant Confederate Mack, defending wrestling fans who complain about SE:

"It's not wrestling. It's sports entertainment. [Vince McMahon] tells the people who constantly piss and moan about this that very thing each and every week."

I could accept this as a valid argument, the two being completely separate so shut my mouth, except for the fact that where does Vince McMahon hire people for his sports entertainment merchandising machine? He hires them from the independent wrestling circuits. Therefore he takes the top-notch "wrestlers" and repackages them as "sports entertainers". Instead of great Tajiri matches, we get him watching some whore try on bikinis. This is why folks get so pissed at McMahon. If he wants to have his sports entertainment juggernaut in full effect, then fine, but he kills wrestling with his sports entertainment. He destroys credible wrestlers with stupid gimmicks. Think of Scotty Taylor, who's a more than formidable mid-card type of guy. He'll spend the rest of his life into his sixties doing the goddamned Worm. And that's it. A little dancing, and the Worm.

Some of us lament the loss of actual pro wrestling as a medium. Sports entertainment doesn't do it for us, and the name on the marquee still says World WRESTLING Federation, so you and Vince can use the tired bullshit sports entertainment argument all you want, but it just doesn't add up. Vince has killed quality wrestling and given us ten minute "promos" instead of interviews, chockfull of sixth grade humor catch-phrases. He killed wrestling, and I think over the years, he's come to enjoy that just because it sticks in the craw of wrestling traditionalists.

Thank God for the Indies. And thank God those guys are mostly too small to fulfill Vince's big-guy fetish, so he won't bother to sign them even if they were willing to take growth hormones.






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posted on 01-18-2002 @ 6:44 PM      
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Registered: Jul. 01
quote:

First of all, welcome Se7en to OA.com! You will be hated here soon enough



Sssssh! Don't discourage the lad, Sir O! :p




OAgirl25
posted on 01-18-2002 @ 9:32 PM      
Psychopath
Registered: Jan. 02
quote:

I think you should go to college as a research subject for the pych dept.


Hey JackDan1974, I woud be the worst researh subject for a study on ass-fucking, I never had anal sex of any kind, I think it's sick.
But from readin this post:
quote:

Idoj is very pleased... MMMMWWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!


it seems like Mrs. Moosen is.
:):):)

HOSPITALIANO
posted on 01-19-2002 @ 10:29 PM      
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Registered: Oct. 00
Mrs., Paraphrasing Mark Twain? NICE.

The second Tajiri came in as Regal's Manservant he was done for. The second they made him "date" Torri Wilson (even though she doesn't speak japanese and apparently he doesn't speak english),it put the nai in the coffin. And when Torri started doing the back handspring elbow (badly) that was the dirt in the plot.

And even though I'm an RVD mark from the WCW Robbie V days, I agree with him not changing his stle since getting in the WWF. Actually the WWF has stopped him from some of his Old ECW posturing.

And I wouldn't give WCW so much Credit. They haven't been so great since it stopped being the NWA. nd you can't blame Russo entirely, Bischoff fucked things up pretty bad all on his own. Original 5 NWO members would have been great, 37 members getting involved in matches with Dennis Rodman, Carl Malone,and JAY FUCKING LENO are worse then anything the WWF ever tried.


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nitron
posted on 02-01-2002 @ 5:48 PM      
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Registered: Apr. 01
I like booker T.

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